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Yes they sold their shares
John Myers who pumped this for the company to sell shares is now doing AMPW and they sold millions of shares - also a non operating company and just making up total lies. The Company in the AMPW case paid to start $750,000 and now probably a lot more to send out glossy mailing and emails. But if they sold say 2 million or 3 million shares at $2 they can move on to another company.
John Myers? asks:
How much will Rio Tinto end up paying for that 438 million tons of coal?
That is a pretty stupid question - RIO has a market cap of about $140 billion with a B - they are not going to buy any coal - anyway do you see any for sale? The company is not mining anything.
Some of the other identical letter from John pitched these great companies.
Just google him
This is what he wrote about SILA :
(Buy Shares in Gold American Mining Corp.
(OTCBB: SILA) Now Below $1, Before Its Needy
Neighbor Offers $104 Or More a Share!
10-Q says cash of 167,337
They value Mineral Property at 2,670,500
Total assets 2,936,997 but need to minus current liabilities $413,678
Regardless the market cap is now $135 million. Even if they were at 10 times current worth the sap would be under $30 million - certainly not 135 million. They have ZERO revenues and a loss of $400k - see why they are selling stock.
From the 8-K they just sold 510,204 shares at $98 cents a share so it was important to them to pay pumpers to try to keep the price up during this sale. This also gives the buyers the right to buy an additional 510,204 shares for $1.47 for up to 3 years. The first 510,204 are restricted for 6 months so cannot be sold on the market - but of course they can sell them privately and they make a profit on any price over $0.98. The warrants that allows them to buy more shares can also be sold privately at least.
Over 55,000 more selling in 30 minute
Time and sales for a brief period and sales in red in the lead
The company spent a ton in pumping fees and those who got shares are cashing in - I mean that is the point of a pump - to sell shares to those you lied too. They said their was a buy out offer basically and that is total fabrication. They have nothing to sell in the first place.
That one person with the 40k sell just picked up over $60 of suckers money.
Keith - SEC filing - past history of CEO
COAL is a hard asset - so - they have the rights to some leasehold - so what? Why is the last leaseholder not mining it - what are the sales of AMPW to justify a market cap of $135 million?
google Midway Media Group Inc. and you will see the pumping money - is this how a real company operates? Spending hundreds of thousand to falsely hype the stock? One guy has a price target of $50 - oh ya an OTC company with no earnings worth $4.5 billion dollars. ($50 times 90 million shares) Some of the guys paid to make up this stuff were only paid $6500 - so they do not even buy the high priced pumpers
But their website sure shows why it is worth $135 million
Now compare that reality to the image at the top of their website and all of them actually if you want to see more deception. Says Powering America - Powering Asia - then look at the above photo and see the scam.
Talk of buy out of what?
Does the company have major equipment to buy ? -
How much coal are they delivering each day - each week - each month?
Does the company have some special process for mining coal?
Do they have anything worth buying?
As far as we see they own some rights - on some leaseholds - do they have the right already for the US government to mine?
Any other coal company can buy their own rights all over the country as many coal areas sit idle.
There was an 8-K filing with the SEC in November and it said",
...withdraw from discussions with Peabody Investments Corp., a subsidiary of Peabody Energy Corp. to finance the exploration drilling program on the Pace Coal Property in exchange for an option to acquire any reserves of coal proved in the Pace Coal Property at the end of the exploration program...."
This was for sure not in the slightest stretch of the imagination any type of buy out offer whatsoever.
The company wanted financing to explore and then they wanted out and Peabody was not interested which is logical. Why would they finance another nobody company to explore.
So the company AMPW instead does a pump to raise money and they paid at a minimum to start $250,000 to Midway Media Group Inc. to organize false mailings and websites pumps and email blasts to try and boost the stock price. If a company really was a real company with sales and growth they would not need all this pumping and totally false claims of $50 prices in the future. AMPW may have by now spent much more than $250,000 as they just did a private placement for $500,0000
AMPW has according to Yahoo 91 million outstanding and at this price a market cap of $138 million - that is huge huge huge - they would need maybe 60,000 or more ton a month in sales with this number of shares to justify this price.
The largest tip off is the massive paid pumping with price targets while doing private placement and the blatant lies about a totally fabricated takeover. This is in violation of so many SEC rules but as we know the SEC is slow to do anything and often by the time they do the companies no longer exist.
This company if they find enough financing may try to extract and sell coal in the future but we can see that their main direction has been in pumping up the stock price from bogus sources and outright lies.
You can trade any stock on false claims and can make money but just understand that there were no buyout or takeover offers filed with the SEC and they would have to be if there were any.
You know that AMPW came about by buying a shell of an defunct company - that one had the name of “Teen Glow Makeup, Inc.” The past shareholders of that company may also have needed the pump to get rid of their shares.
The CEO Johannes Petersen has a proven track record for pumps in the past - he likely makes a ton though companies do not do so good - [url]http://bit.ly/dUKEbG /url][tag]Notes about Johannes Petersen companies [/tag]
Red delete button - can you undue?
when you look at charts 10 on a page - I noticed today they looked a little blurry - maybe it was my monitor but then I noticed a very tiny gray box at the top right corner of a chart and when i moused over it turned red like a video full screen button does so I clicked on it and the charts disappeared - is it a delete button? if so how to get the chart back it was a very complex chart with a lot of work for months - I did a search but their knowledge base has nothing - why would they put a delete button on a chart - hope it isn't but a stupid idea as one could hit it by mistake. There is already a delete chart line next to the chart.
I see no note of this in the help file it says
10 Per Page: Displays up to 10 charts on a single page. Further customization options and links to other chart types are provided beside each chart. - Right to the right of the charts so what is this stupid red box that made my chart go away? I am not sure I can even duplicate this t charts again as the setting are not written down. Where is an undo button or location??
If they ended on half hour the last candle would only be 30 minutes and show 30 mins of volume - the last hours volume is important to many
anyway use 30 minutes charts and get all
any way to turn off the calendar pop up?
In their latest change to charts they put in some pop up calendar that opens right in your way when you go to change dates on charts. IMO it slows things down as very fast to change a date by hand. Any way to get rid of it?
thanks
Teh new addition to freestockcharts
Now they have a page showing most popular stock charts now
[url]
www.freestockcharts.com/LiveWatch/Symbol/SIMG[/url][tag]insert-text-here[/tag]
They also have a fast chart view if you do not need streaming
insert-text-here
Of course not at all like stochcharts.com but good for quick look at charts and for sharing on message boards and chat rooms and with friends
Made a suggestioin to stockcharts
We know they are very slow to do things like still no search after 8 years - and it would cost them nothing - this would be to tell you which folder you stored a chart in.
This is another they could do really easily
A suggestion - when we add multiple symbols to a folder in edit view they come up as Default Style under company name- it is certainly not hard to have them reference the data base and put the company name in that space - so that would be a suggestion to implement.
I could help if other wrote- they only need to write a bit of code -
Yes I use them for some forex charts but mostly I use Quotetracker or Ninja charts for streaming.
Qcharts was bought by Esignal but like Qcharts better
thanks
Intra day scan for movers
Quasi or others may have this answer. Now that SC has sort of intraday scans is it possible to get the movers? If so I guess there is no way to sort.
As example - at finviz you can scan for stocks that are 200k volume and at a volume run rate of at least 100% 0r 150% etc and have a price of over $2 etc - then sort them by gain at that moment then look at a page of the charts. I guess the best SC can do is candle glance but first you would need to scan then sort then save the list. I have not found any other site except finviz that can quickly show you many charts of stocks that are moving on good volume. If there is a way to do that with SC would be great as it would save an additional $40 month to finviz for real time.
Thanks
Thanks a lot Quasi
Is there a way to add space at top of bottom of chart?
We can add bars to the right but sometimes in doing a Fibonacci retrace or projection it would be nice to be able to add on top
is is possible?
Thanks
Thanks PP
Is it a secret place Peter Pan - or are you going to share it with us?
I forgot to mention their page to make a request
http://stockcharts.com/support/techsupport.html
this is in part what I wrote:
..................what would be very useful and has been missing all these years is the usual Fibonacci Projection which is found on most live streaming charts like Esignal, Tradestation, Ninja charts etc. The typical and most used projection are what could be expressed as 127.2% and 141.4% and 161.8%. Very helpful in finding tops or profit points. Can't imagine it would be too hard to add.
Anyone tried the Beta annotation tools
They added an arch and time for Fibonacci but those are rarely used. What was needed was a Fibonacci Projection tool that would allow you to find likely targets - like 127% 141%. Live charting programs have them like esignal and Ninja charts but would be nice for stockcharts to include so you could share them. They are certainly much more helpful than circles and time lines.
There is the new Elliot wave numbering tool that will let those folks go wild so that is cool for them.
I guess for the Projection Fibo will have to write them and keep asking for them to include. They are pretty close and do not add too often but there is always hope.
After so many years why only 100 watch lists
I have been a subscriber for 8 years and during that time storage costs have gone down to almost nothing - heck my google mail account now gives like 8 gig free, The space used to hold a list of stocks is pretty small - so with costs lower I think stockcharts should let up make 200 lists at least. I have a big variety of lists like most do. Just a suggestion. My first big hard drive was 350MB and cost $350 - why did I need such huge space - ha - now 2Terbytes is under $200 - come on stockcharts
thanks
Agree chrf
bat is only here to hurt
all stocks go up and down and they often run up to fast
AAPL ran to $200 and the analysts were saying buy and some bought and it dropped almost 50% - well stocks do that sometimes - that is why you can sell as well s buy.
batscam is not here to add to anyone's gains but to take from them, to try to diminish them
He even complains that NNRF has started with an order, their first international one, with one of Europe's largest nuclear power plant operator. The testing of this product line has been carried out by STUDSVIK, a company NNRF has an alliance with and their codes and services are currently used at more than 200 of the world's 443 nuclear reactors.
This is a good partner to have. Sure this first installation is small in size but the market and need is large and they are starting with a known leader.
As he knows - NNRF had Earnings Before Interest And Taxes $5.768 million as reported by Yahoo. I imagine much of the non cash losses can be used to offset the future profits to save on taxes. ATOLL had net revs of over $40 million - not a small amount.
But for the man with SCAM in his name - he is the scammer each day posting the same old crap - sure if someone bought MSFT at the high and sold at the low they lost a bundle - must have been a scam - this company NNRF is growing and that is what the shareholders expect.
How is it that Larry Ellison
allowed it to happen that ORCL went to $46 then down to $7
didn't he know of a pump and dump
how about AAPL gong to $203 and down to $115 in 8 weeks -
another pump and dump for the batscamer
we know batscam is only out to hurt others here, to hurt the company and to hurt its employees
the company is not trading the stock - people like Michael (Gibber) is the one who kept saying the company is going to do billions in sales - actually he may be correct - but not this week
Get rid of batscam
Longs, the shareholders share a good attitude. They want a company to succeed and be able to provide jobs and services and products. They want all other investors to do well and in time make a nice profit. Batscam and a few others instead want the company to fail and they want all investors to lose money and the company employees to lose their jobs.
Goods and services would be lost and the suppliers would lose business. Everything good the company does he is waiting to knock it.
Why do you allow this type of person to post here every day? Is this so different than terrorism? He wants to destroy lives by damaging income and people. So you really accept his posts in such a casual manner. He is very serious about destruction of this company and you who control the post let him continue. Unbelievable.
He serves no logical purpose being here with his lies and innuendo. If every day someone told you or your loved one that you are going to die soon would you be happy to hear that person?
This is what he basically is saying about NNRF here every single day. This is not supposed to be a free speech board. It is supposed to have rules and you can easily make ones to exclude his type that are only here to hurt others. Why have moderators if they do not work to keep this kind of hatred off the board.
Life should be about growth and happyness not destruction that he has in mind.
Think about it and clean this place up.
He did not sell his shares
it is not legal to make such a post
You know it is under priced
ATOLL in 2007, we will soon know the total, about $70 million in sales- right?
And after tax profits about $17 million I guess
The stock now is way under priced
NNRF has to file by March 31 but my bet is they will be early
It is strange that some supposed longs here just keep on trying to talk the stock down. The company is making very good progress - they bought the 50% of ATOLL less than a year ago.
The new container design and building partnership was only formed in December.
The stock has been making a very good base and trading up and down in a range builds strength and leads to a more sustainable break out down the road.
fourptt - they are real
"If they are the "real deal" (Honest) we will win"
They were co sponsors of the Atomeco 2007 show in Moscow with Rosatom. You cannot get any higher than that. They even won an award at the show.
About the container project - the head of the Russian Agency of Atomic Energy (Rosatom), Mr. Sergey V. Kirienko, stated at Atomeco 2007 that the Russian government has budgeted $11 billion dollars for nuclear waste management under its program for nuclear power development and nuclear radiation maintenance and safety. Of this amount, approximately $1.4 billion will be for waste containers. Russia has to deal with approximately 60,000 tons of high level nuclear waste. Russia will require approximately 2,100 containers from 2010 to 2020 for the storage of high level nuclear waste. With the development of the new Type B(U) containers, NNRF and ECNC hope to secure a significant portion of this $1.4 billion container budget. The future joint venture intends to design these containers to allow transport and storage of high level solid waste in countries outside Russia and establish marketing offices internationally.
A report on the signing of this agreement can be found at the Russian Federal Agency of Atomic Energy site - NOTE THE SITE - you cannot get higher
http://www.minatom.ru/News/Main/view?id=51173&idChannel=681
The point is there is no credibility issue at all. They are in the top class.
Nuclear reactors are back in vogue across Europe
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/5527183.html
Unpopular since Chernobyl, source of energy seen as an emissions reducer
By SHELLEY EMLING
Cox News Service
LONDON — The nuclear industry in the United States is beginning to show signs of life after years of lying dormant, but it is still weighed down by concerns over accidents, waste disposal, and the possibility that fuel might wind up in terrorists' hands.
For inspiration, America needs only to look to Europe, where nuclear energy is increasingly being seen as the only way to tackle the twin problems of climate change and energy security.
After years of resistance, the British government last month gave the go-ahead for a new generation of nuclear power stations. As many as 10 new reactors are in the works. Around the world, up to 90 nuclear reactors are being planned, many of them in Europe.
"There is a growing realization that nuclear (power) will have to be part of the energy solution for Europe," said Adam McCarthy, associate director of Energy Policy Consulting in Brussels.
He said the main driver is the desire among Europeans, who tend to be more environment-minded than Americans, to reduce the carbon emissions that cause global warming. Another factor is rising oil and gas prices.
Changing perspectives
The situation marks a U-turn in European attitudes. After the Chernobyl accident in the Ukraine in 1986, much of the continent lost its taste for nuclear energy.
It has now been about two decades since a reactor has been built in Western Europe outside of nuclear stalwarts such as France and Finland. Only about 30 percent of Europe's electricity is produced by nuclear plants, versus about 20 percent in the United States.
But a burgeoning reliance on nuclear power is likely here.
New reactors will boast features such as water-filled basins that would capture and cool the core in the event of an accident.
The new reactors also will create less waste — perhaps only one-tenth of that generated by current reactors, according to some estimates.
"Public concerns about safety seem to be less of an issue due to the long and excellent track record of safe operations," said Gilbert Brown, coordinator of the Nuclear Engineering Program at the University of Massachusetts at Lowell. "Waste issues are addressed in Europe by countries pursuing deep geologic sequestration."
Even concerns over nuclear material falling into the wrong hands are lessening as a result of the International Atomic Energy Agency's safeguards.
Striving to be a leader in the fight against climate change, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown did an about-face when he agreed to refresh the country's nuclear reactors.
Problem with waste
Nuclear reactors currently supply nearly 20 percent of Britain's electricity. But as they age, all but one of the country's 19 reactors will have to be taken out of commission by 2023.
The government chose not to replace that generating capacity with carbon-spewing coal and gas plants, especially with the European Commission proposing that the European Union slash carbon emissions by 20 percent by 2020 compared to 1990 levels.
Perhaps if there is still one remaining worry in Europe over nuclear energy, it is the disposal of the radioactive waste — and even that worry is being addressed, said Luis Echavarri, director general of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development's Nuclear Energy Agency in Paris.
In France, where nuclear energy provides 78 percent of electricity, much of the waste is reprocessed.
In Finland, where the private company TVO is building the world's largest nuclear reactor, a deep repository is being built.
Some European environmentalists have yet to be convinced of the merits of nuclear energy.
"There are still no firm answers to the safety and waste issues," said Lisa Weatherley, a spokeswoman for Greenpeace UK.
"Britain can meet its energy needs through renewables and decentralized energy, whereas nuclear power will cut our CO2 emission by only 4 percent."
Jim Green, nuclear campaigner for Friends of the Earth Australia, a federation of environmental groups, said that there is still no permanent repository for high-level nuclear waste anywhere in Europe.
"Finland and Sweden have made some progress but are still some years — perhaps decades — from having a functional high-level nuclear waste repository," he said. "More nuclear energy is not the answer."
Many European nations rely more on nuclear energy than the United States. The following is the percentage of electricity from nuclear reactors:
Country Percent
France 78
Lithuania 72
Slovak Republic 57
Belgium 54
Sweden 48
Hungary 38
Switzerland 37
Germany 32
Finland 28
United States 20
Source: Foratom
moneyguy - funny name
if there are 100,000 shares sold there are 100,000 shares bought
you do not count the same shares twice
you forgot the revenues
you said "great potential and nothing more"
you left out the $70 million in revenues that ATOLL did in 2007 and they have over $100 million still on the books plus sub contracts.
last year with no earnings you could not get enough of it
combining ATOLL with Velcont will mean even better profits
this is not at all like the 1000 companies you speak of. This is real production in an very huge industry and a very hard to get into field. they co sponsored the winter show with the operator of all Russia's nuclear.
There have been no new 144 registrations
last one January 18
This has nothing to do with the old shell.
This looks more like it did last year when the typical trader who bought higher sells lower.
When they sold the stock finally ran like mad...too mad but amazing.
Last year there was no revenue and this year a lot. And many things going on in the next year(s)
We are sure close to a bottom now so the this is the good news about a low price. Plus any buys here have more to gain.
The time left in this decline is also minimal compared to the years in gains ahead.
Anyone with doubts just re read the company outlook from January - do not let the current low price bother so much when you look at the upside to come
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080110/134175.html
Someone bought 180,000 today - they know why
Shareholder meeting next month with year end earnings of both ATOLL and NNRF
NNRF enhances ATOLL is why
fishy said, "the latter was unclear to me due to the vagueness of the releases"
Vagueness?
Could not be more clear
"NUCON has paid ATOLL $2,165,000 in cash and four million shares of common stock." This is for 50% ownership
As to why ATOLL sold half - we have talked of it last year and it is obvious. NNRF could make expansion happen. That is why any company sells some of itself. Long term growth.
Valery Lebedev, PhD - the chief science office of NNRF was Russia's former Deputy Nuclear Power Minister. He also before operated the nuclear power station in St Petersburg where ATOLL is.
Since this transaction with NNRF - ATOLL and NNRF are buying an equal share of JSC Electroprivod and Velkont. ATOLL is already consolidating its activities in that city (Kirov).
A joint venture between ZAO ATOLL, which is 50% owned by NNRF, and Atomenergomash has been finalized under Russian law - this would not have happened without NNRF.
It is all in the press releases:
During the year Atoll entered into a joint venture with Atomergomash (AEM). AEM is a state supplier of parts for nuclear power plants. AEM plans to invest one billion dollars over the next two years for plant modernization and increasing and developing their portfolio of manufacturing industrial assets. Atoll has been asked to appoint one of its representatives as Chief of Operations of the joint venture.
NNRF did not say there would be any more Press Releases in January.
They wrote “In the future we intend to have monthly updates posted on our web site. This will include formally issued news releases published through public media services.”
They had a major PR in January so would not expect another until February.
As for the ATOLL earnings we should expect s similar sales and profit number like the 3 rd quarter as I have read. We know they moved the ATOLL facilities to two separate locations in the 3-4th quarter.
Last year they announced the ATOLL first quarter in June so if you go back 3 months that means we would expect the ATOLL fourth quarter numbers in March and that is when ATOLL has their annual meeting we recall from last year.
If the SEC requires NNRF to announce the ATOLL number earlier (they usually only make you report significant things on a schedule) they would, but they may like to instead wait until their (NNRFs) shareholder meeting. Even AAPL waits to announce things at their meetings.
About the shareholder meeting the Q&A page says “The exact time and place has not yet been set but it is anticipated to be in mid March.” Or in about 6 weeks from now.
Someone on this board made up an idea of Feb 15 but the company never mentioned anything at all on this and the historical time is for March not February.
Many here look at the day to day price and seem to not even read about the most major events. These are longer range when the real gains will be made. The short term is simply not so important.
I think when the Velcont 25% acquisition is done the stock will be over $3 just based on earnings. If that is so than it makes not a darn bit of difference right now if the stock is at $.60 or $.90 as this is only a short term traders game. When the listing in Russia happens there will be more long term buyers as they understand this field better and can even go to the ATOLL offices if they want. NNRF is only waiting on the Government to start allowing the foreign stocks.
If you cannot wait than why hold the stock and your breath every day you miss the big picture that will happen in the longer term. It seems that some get withdrawal symptoms if they do not post a few times a day or at least a few times a week but read below and understand that this larger business is only about to start and will grow over the next several years not weeks or months.
As example someone recently posted about “Chernobyl NPP and Stabilization Consortium have signed a contract for enhancing the safety of Shelter facility of Chernoby” with Atomstroyexport who has a strategic relation with NNRF.
Something like that can now take a year or more to engineer. it took 10 years in the past.
So when NNRF made a proposal to Egypt that does not mean that there will be an answer in a couple of months. Most here do not understand nuclear and the time it takes to engineer a project and to have everyone agree to it all.
In Texas they are going to build two new nuclear plants. They think they can have the first one in 2014. You see things like that take a while even in the USA. So like the hospital and the E.ON shielding installations these will take place but NNRF does not have the total control as to the exact date as the customers have to decide many things also so no need to sit on the edge of your seat.
From the company-
“It is expected that over USD 10 billion of government nuclear services contracts will be awarded within the next five years for the clean up of former military sites in Russia, and we expect to participate as a sub-contractor on a significant portion of these contracts. We believe that we have the technical know-how, appropriate technologies and our senior management has considerable, decades-long experience in these projects, having administered them while they were senior executives at the Federal Ministry.
Russia plans to spend in excess of USD 50 billion dollars over the next 20 years in the construction of new nuclear powered generating plants. Our investees are well positioned with their products to participate in this ambitious program.
Over the period ending 2015 Russia has budgeted USD 11 billion for the storage of radioactive waste. NNRF through its container joint venture with ECNC anticipates successfully participating in this program.”
That statement keeps me happy to own the stock and not worried that is has wide swings in the short term.
I see someone ask about Alpha bank - not sure why ask who they did or what it has to do with NNRF - why not look at the banks site? Or call them?
Alfa Bank
Head Investor Relations
Svetlana Demyashkevich
Tel. +7 495 795-36-41
http://www.alfabank.com/
The buyers of the private placement
paid more than the stock was selling at - at the time.
The reason they bought was to sell and make a profit. That is the whole idea of buying a private placement. This is hardly a secret idea.
Now the float is bigger as there are less restricted shares and it will actually be better for the company once on a larger exchange.
gibberish does not read -
ATOLL reported Q1 2007 gross revenues of US$18,935,839 and net income after tax of US$5.038 million.
ATOLL reported Q2 2007 gross revenues of US$19 Million and net after tax income of US$4.25 Million.
ATOLL reported Q3 2007 gross revenues of USD 18.7 Million and net after tax income of USD 3.5 Million. NNRF owns 50% of ATOLL.
and Q4 should be similar
excellent for first year of sales. This is sure no hype.
Insiders zero sales
the list had no insiders you dunce
batscams
Pusa you are 100% correct
Breakpoint has his agenda. It is against the iHub rules to post links to or advertise your site and he does this with his charts and videos and can be banned.
There are thousands and thousands of stocks on iHub and if you click on his name you will see that he only posts on this single board so his intention is very clear. He said that he even tried to post his advertisements to his paid site on the other guy’s site. That is pretty low.
You would think that there are other stocks he would be much more interest in where he would not be bashing someone else but no, he only posts here and we see why.
He has lost his ranking on stockcharts but this seems a lame way to try and drum up paid subscribers by bashing someone else. Breakpoint is making a pretty bad reputation for doing this.
He says he is only here to help as he has interest in only this stock. Right. He takes money from users yet instead of posting to them he posts here. Does not even have it on his site he says but he checks in here many times each day as he is so interested. A real joker.
moneyguy - he makes things up
you may be new here. IM may say he talked to company but he never has and they will not talk to him. They even put a note on a PR saying to not believe anything not from them.
You can ask company they will confirm that they never have had any contact with IM
Fishpert -
the company did not have business before - they bought a shell and they did not give away any Ex-Cell - they said if they form such a company they will.
you think that companies do not increse revenues by buying other companies. That is exactly how almost all companies grow
to GIBBERISH the iceman never met the company people so what he says means nothing
the otc question it takes about 3 weeks between guestions not 6 or 8