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dustmoff: Things are fine with me. We are down for winter, till Spring. How are things going on with you all on this site. See you later.....Wreck Tom
Hello everyone, how are things going? This is WRECK TOM.I have not visited the site for along time.Has Wilf found anything of real value yet? Things are going along fine for me.I hope you all will realize your dreams someday. ...Wreck Tom
If they are iron bars,wern't the English the first to use them as a ballast?....jUST WONDERING.....wt
Thats a find from a real treasure hunting company, not some of the wanna be's that are in the keys....WT
Max. Human nature is human nature!If you were a low paid sailor, what would you do? Any one connected with ship travel would try to smuggle any wealth they could.On a war vessel of the French navy, they did not have as much an oppurtunity as Spanish vessels, unless they captured a Spanish ship. If you were the crew of any vessel, would you not try to smuggle what you could. Short answer, yes, they would/did when they could.....WT
On all Spanish vessels coming from the new world had at least one third of the treasure on board as contraband.There will always be unre. treasure found on these ships....WT
Hey Ed,how are things going? Are you talking about the Joe who worked for Wilf? If it is, I hope the site owner reads this and gives me a call!....No, I don't need a job.If it is a pink, in my opinion, the same game will come into play.
So, people, this is a pink! Be advised, if this is comp. is supported by investors, the only treasure that will come from this operation is the money you give to the co. Realize it, you are the treasure that they are looking for; the investors!!!!
I am sure there are some of you who are Spanish, porteguese, Dutch,and english,and yes even,French!!You are the treasure to these type of companies.The companies are the true " Pirates of the Caribbean".You just came off of a long run of Pirates taking you for your booty, and then you want to go back again.Damn;
A note to add: I had been working with Sam, for many years. The site referred to as his is not the area where Sam, I, and the many people who tried to rip him off, were working!
I know the area, and I do believe if I was to have access to to work the site, I would be able to produce some positive results!
I was witness to when the salvors loward the Fisher non ferris detector to the bottom; it screamed!!!The depth we were working in was 50 feet!The beautiful old man had something out there;I believe in it as much as he did.
I really hope that who ever is doing the site,does it in a professional manner. If they do, they will be rewarded with a shipwreck!I hear that who is doing it is another "PINK". I hope that is not true. If it is, it will be another dpbe type treasure hunt!With a pink, the treasure truly lies in the stock; not the shipwreck...See ya .....WT
Water boy,at least Oddsey has a track record of finding treasure, several in fact!!!What has DPBE FOUND?You can't satisfy all investors, no matter what you do.
Also, as another question asked: In todays treasure operations you hunt first and seek identy later. We are in the period of deep water technologies. If yiou have the set up you can troll for wrecks! The Bahamma channel is full of them!You wan to find a wreck, hire me, set up as I dictate, and in less than thirty days, I would find you a wreck!!!!The it would be up to you to identify it!!!!.Remember the "Cazadore",after all the sh.. they had to go through, they hired a company to bucket it up. It was in inter. waters, people may have bitched, but we have enough history;they got their treasure!
In one of my recent posts I laid out in easy steps on how to be a treasure hunter;refere back to that post...wt
Capt. there is another old quotation taht says:"You can lead a horse to water;but you can't make him drink".In my opinion, that is what is the case here.Probably 90% of those on this site have no , or little knowledge of what they have gotten themselves into till it was to late!Other than a few percent that have hands on marine/boat/treasure experience;the rest were starry eyed, hopefuls who thought they were getting into a real treasure adventure, and that the money they invested would bring them fortunes.Well, it could have, if they did their research, and put their money in the right place.
I am sure that money can be made in the pinks;for the very few, but to such volumes of money I hear that has been invested; was foolish, sepecially as they watch the decline. They would have been better of to go with a company like the Fisher group, or Odeyssey. Groups that have a track record
All you can do is, I guess, in a not so condescending way, is to remind them of past performances;let it go at that...WT
Hey barnyard buddy, and Max, been a long time since I said a word to you. Hi there, I am doing fine, I have a lot coming up this diving season and I want to be sure I keep you guys informed.
Out of just plain curiousity, is there any on this board from/living in the Fla. Keys? If there is, I would like to hear from you.Well, you all have a good day...WT
Hi guys, I am curious about something; maybe someone could answr it for me. How long can a site like this survive? What I mean is can it go on indifinitely, does it expire at a certain time, does dpbe have to close it;What?
If someone knows and could let me know, I would appreciate it very much.Thank you ....WT
The same!!!And as the old saying goes,"My ship came in".I will say no more at this time. I need no more backers!I will post from time to time as the project moves forward.
As I read this site, I sometimes wonder if the people on it are really serious about the treasure hunting business, or,if it's like an extra-marital fling their on!
The amount of money lost to this company in the last two years could have financed the the discovery of the Titanic!
If all of you are serious about finding treasure, form a corp. together, put your money in an escrow account, seek someone with a proven track record, and find the treasures out there on your own. You would have far better luck, and a return, than going about it this way.
The problem is not,if there is any treasure,it lies in a well financed plan to get it!!!I can gaurantee you this, playing the pink sheets will not get it for you, and make you rich;unless you own the "pink"!!!
To be a "Treasure Hunter", you have to do more than sit on an unproductive site, complaining about some guy who may, or may not have took your money. Get your feet wet, get in the field do the research, talk with those that have long time reps. and proven discoveries and do the work!
Years ago, it used to be ;long anguishing hours of research, than try to locate. Things have changed! With the technologies of to day, you can locate first, then try to identify what you have found!I am of the latter pursuasion.
If you are an adventurer and have some disposable capital, this is how to go about it:
1.At least a 40ft. boat. (good shape)
2. At least one dual freq. sss, and if you have some good financing, a tow Mag.(Know how to use the equipment)
3.A least
one knowledgeable Capt/several mix gas teck divers.
4.Basic nav. equip.(dgps.
5.Money for fuel.(partnerships)
6.And the most important:Take the time to do it; especially in locations like the Keys!!! You could hire it out, but, then if you are not involved, and on top of it , you could get fu....!If you really want it bad enough you will find a dream.
Today, its no longer a shallow water game, it has become a deep water operation in todays technologies.I don't mean in thousands of feet; hundreds yes. In the deep water tecks, you will be looking for fully, articulated wrecks, not wrecks that have been blown all over the reefs.
For many of you, what you would spend on a a three year drinking bill would start you off to a life of adventure, romance, and a far, far, better chance at finding the treasure thats waiting to be found. Remember,in five hundred years, theres has been approx. 4000 ships that have been lost from the New World to the old. Since Kip Wagnors day, there have been probably less than thirty big name discoveries.
Now you could of course blow off what I have written, and try places, and people like the hub to talk about it all. Its up to you.
I my opinion, Wilf is doing exactly what I am talking about, and who knows, he is more than likely,to be one of those who will really find a wreck;on your money!
Well, enough said, I will probably get a lot of BS from you out there, so I have to re-group and be ready to be slammed...WT
Months and months ago,I informed all of you that this was what was then, is now, going to happen, I was basically told to f... off! I was accused of being a basher.
I want to believe that dpbm, may have started off to be a treasure hunting company, with good intensions, but they lost their way. Wilf,really, knowing only one thing; stocks,realized he was not cut out for the business,and would really fail; fell back on to manipulating the stock.
If you were all taken advantage of, you really have to blame yourselves. I was trying to sound the trumpet, Ed was sounding the same message; you all should have listened to the music we were trying to play.
Treasure hunting is a game of speculation, as is most all attempts to make a quick buck turn out to be. The problem is that there is real treasure, and the approach to securing it is frought with unscrupulous people who find thir their treasure's in the gullible. You stayed to long!!! Most of you didn't do the research to truly comprehend the complexities of the business.
There is real treasure out there; remember a man called "Mel Fisher", "Burt Webber", "Whity Kevan",Me, and a hundred others. So, you know its there, you just let yourselves get "blindsided".
My suggestion to you all is, "get over it", eat you loss, and be better prepared to tackel this game; better educated! You all have been burnt, thats part of your education!
I am not being sarcastic, condescending, or trying to sound like a basher to you.I never gave up, and I did succeed in my quest, and my dreams are soon to be forthcoming!
I am sure that Ed, and some of the more knowledgeable ones on this site can agree with much of what I am saying.
God bless you all, do not give up your dreams.....WT
P.S.-------- Ed, still trying to reach KR....Tom
Jazz, not yet, I will have to call K---- to find out. Things should start to happen soon. The diving season will be starting soon.Then, I will be able to validate my wreck and get it started....WT
Hi Ed, if dpbe is not working the woman key site;who is? Have they just abandoned it? Has Kenny got someone else to work it?
If you can let me know whats happening, I would appreciate it
Thanks bud....WT
Hey Ed, this is WT, has there been any activity with the Woman Key site lately?...WT
Ballast stones are a sedimentary formation washed and rounded by water action such as riverstreams ect. Making them a natural for use as a stabilizing factor in the holds of sailing vessels. They do not occur in the bottom of the caribbean unless put there....WT
You say they were just a bunch of rocks?Well, there is not a natural occuring rocks in the caribbean. Rocks(stones?)lead one to assume they belong to some kind of a pile. Rocks? please clarify that for me please....WT
Thank you Ed, it could have been different,but nit picking caused the shift:To bad too!" Abird in hand is worth two in the bush". Rember Ed, there is something as big plus;you know what I am referring to.I hope who ever might be intersted in that, won't be so nit picky, and will believe in what I will be doing on that one;if you ghet my drift. I tried my best, but everyon was getting something but me:NO MORE!
I will be available, and I hope that different attitudes will prevail....WT
I am with a well founded group. Will keep you up....wt
No wave, this is a private operation. I learned the hard way; not to go through pub. trd. co's.There is no real incentive to really hunt for treasure when you make money manipulating stocks!With stocks, there is a flow back to the owner of any shell, basically one way. If your lucky some people can jump in and make a little.Private, is the way to go!!
See ya later...WT
Hello All: This is WT, I breeze in and out every once in awhile. I do feel for all of you.I am truly hope things will pick up for you.For those of you who know of me a few months back,things are going good for me and my wreck operation now;finally! God bless,see ya....WT
This is WT. I had to respond to you and your frustration/sarcasm.
Yes, there are other companies out there that are in it for treasure; not stock!If you want to invest intreasure operations, contact compannies that have no connection to pink sheet operations. There is no real incentive to plan, hunt and actually find treasure!There is more money to be made by pink sheets to hype themselves, and make a feeble attempt to find treasure, but the real money is in the stock manipulation,by the timely release of Pr's.
If you have been here long enough, investors have made this pink sheet controller a fortune!Like wise, pink sheets are notorious for this practice, and it is legal. They are, I believe, trying to find a bonnanza, but, if they don't, they haves till full filled their objective; made their money!Also, I might add, so have some of the wiser investors.
[LOOK FOR A TREASURE COMPANY THAT HAS PRIVATE INVESTMENT, AND NOT CONNECTED TO ANY PINK SHEET CO.!] See ya bud, have a good day.
Yours in Treasure....Capt. Tom...WT
You said it Billy! You know what your doing, so, play with them on the hub till you leave...WT
Yes I did. and I apologize....wt
Doing just fine, can't talk to mmuch yet...WT
Hi Billy: hang in there Billy. There are men of the sea that eat, sleep, bust ass on the water,that know what it is all about. Then there are the adventure readers that think they know what its all about. They are of little or no consequence to what you do.
You owe no explanation to anyone! We are not life long friends, but, I consider you a friend,and commrad in arms! I know the business, and what hell it can be, and you are as professional as T.hunters can be!
I wish you all the success you can get. I know how much of a ball buster you are, with your passion for what you do!
Yours in Treasure....Capt Tom....WT
He bud, glad you have had the opportunity you have with Wilf. I wish I could have recognized the potential I could have had with him.I have learned a lot about just see the tree, there is a forest all around it!
I admit I lost a great opportunity, but, I have also gained a little wisdom in deal. Think first,then approach the situation with an open mind. Well buddy, I will see you later.
God bless, may you hit it big.
Yours in Treasure: Capt. Tom Yerian...WT
My two cents:
The last time I was invited to the Capt Tracy by Billy, They were in a great re-do mode! I can't see anyone spending the money doing the overhauling of a boat that size;not to use it!I have been in this game for a long time, and the Capt. Tracy is being outfitted as one hell of a treasure hunting vessel!!To be honest, I don't understand why Wilf doesn't post some pictures of what he hsa done, and is doing.
Well guys, you have to see for yourselves. It doesn't make sence to spend so much money as a ruse. Thats my two cents...WT
Well sid, sir!a treasure HUNTER, needs to be obsessed with his dream! That impetus is what drives the man to discovery. Then,and only then, can he be at peace with himself;his quest fulfilled. Mel Fisher, Burt webber, and many others that has achieved that glory. used the energy, of their personel obsessions, to reach the status of greatness!
These men accomplished what they did, by sheer tenacity, never quit, no obstacle to great,nothing could stop them from achieving their dream;not even death!If a man has these qualities in his soul, he will reach his dream. A mans dreams, come from the heart, if you got the heart baby, you will catch your dream..."Never fear to chase a dream;you just might catch it!"....WT
Hi waterboy, Im not a poor derilict sleeping under a bridge, selling pencils. I am comfortable at this point. Things are much better. I now have home based computer and internet too!
See, keep trying long enough, and good things happen....WT
Hello every on, This is wreck Tom.Some of you know of me, and my posts from a few months back. I was a very angry person back then,and I went on an attack at Wilf Blum; almost unrelenting!
I am hear to publicly apologize to Wilf, his devoted wife, his children,and his religion. In retrospect, I realize I made a pure ASS of myself, by trying to hurt him and his company with tha ranting and raving I did on this post.Once again Wilf,and family, I humbly apologize for all the foulness I directed towards you, and yours. Please forgive my ignorance.
I pride myself for being a highly intelligent person, but being smart, and lacking the wisdom, a truly smart man should possess, made me a very ugly person at that time. I let my anger over rule my common sence. I was looking at one situation at that time,MINE,without careing to see the other persons views. All I could see was , he betrayed me!I didn't see the far greater picture he had, all I saw was my selfish side. I was wrong, I was angry and I regret it very much. What bothers me the most, was, he did not attack me back!I guess that made me even angrier. Well,I feel like shit for being like I was , and I hope you all forgive the rantings of a less than wise man.
The other day, Capt Billy invited me to check out the boat, so I went to see it today. Looking at the work and the money invested in that boat,has really made me stand back and take a look at what is going to be done with deep blue and that boat.
That boat has been gutted and redone as a treasure hunters dream. You all should see it. Wilf has a plan, a bigger picture, than what I saw. I closed my eyes to what is really going to happen with the company.I am now on the outside looking in. To make me feel even worse, Wilf greeted me as if I were his family!He is more of a man to me, than I was to him.
As far as you investors are concerned, no person goes to the expence on a vessel like the tracy, just to make things look good. That boat is a true treasure hunter, looking for something, I now believe is quite fantastic!
I could have been a part of it, but my mouth and arrogant ass over ruled a cool head, and I lost out!
To you doc, and some of the others,there is far more to know, than you believe you know. Wilf, does know what he is doing.
To Billy, Robin, and all the crew, I apologize to you also, for my arrogant attitude. I really wish I could have been a part of the group.
I am a tough old cuss, but when I am wrong, I am man enough to admit it. Last time Wilf, I really am sorry for my behavior. I have learned a little more about humility....Thanks....Wreck Tom
Thank you sir...wt
Hey guys, this is wreck tom, does anyon have the phone number of deep blue office in Keywest?...Thanks....WT
Capt. Billy, how is it going? I will be in Keywest this monday. Yes, I would appreciate looking her over. I really like the looks of that boat. Guys, now you have a working platform. Trick that boat with top of the line electronics,and the hardware, you could find just about anything.
Minimum: One good mag--One good sss--one good sub-bot.profiler.and at least one ABS certified minisub.Man, could I get carried away with a boat like that, if I won a lotto.
Whats the fuel range on her? Well look Billy, thanks for the invite, I will call you Monday;ok? Also, tell Wilf I said hi...See ya later...WT
Yes,its coming along nicely.I am in a state of repose at this time; Thank God!...WT
From what I observed, it looks like they are primed and ready to move out. I havn't had any personel contact with Wilf for many months now.What I see seems to be encouraging;especially the Tracy;I like that boat. I hope the best for the company,. In this business, one day your down, next day you up.People problems, weather problems, equipment problems, etc.
To be honest with you I would like to have been involved in the DR project in some capacity. I love the sea, I love the hunt, I love the discovery! I probably love the hunt the most! It gets in your blood, and in some people, it just doesn't go away. Thats the way it is with me. I will do this type of thing till I go to that treasure wreck in the sky.HaHaHa
Gotta go guys, keep the faith!!....WT
Went by, she now has the bow intact. Looks like it still needs to be sanded and painted. I know nothing about her actual sea worthiness, but it looks like a good deal of work has been put into her. They were working on her as we drove by. I didn't want to stop and talk, so that there would not be any problems, or possible misunderstandings.I really want to see things work out with the Dr.In my opinion, they have put some money and work into her.The Tracy sure does look good though. I would really like to have that boat at my disposal!.....WT
Hello everyone,went to kewwest today. I stopped by deep blue office;know one there. Billys boat is there, and the miss Delany is there, out back of the office. The Tracy is in the other marina north of deep blue, moored up to sea wall. She is not a bad looking boat at all. I, myself, would strike all that deck rigging, for unrestricted deck space; like the Ma gruder. Well, its not my boat. I would like to have it though! I would rig it out as a really well equipped hunter.
Well, things are going well for me finally; will elaborate later. Good luck to you all.....WT