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Company is alive & doing well.
This per Richard today. He indicated
business is great but might take a few
more months before spinoff is completed.
He indicated accountants & lawyers working
to complete audit to separate UDS from DTSL.
Hopefully this guy knows what's going on.
GLTA
Expectations, based on UDSG -> DTSL
UDSG had 1 billion shares.
When UDSG converted to DTSL it
had a 1/50 r/s, so 1B went to
20M shares. Then mgt. added 15M
more shares for a total of about
35M.
DTSL has about 6B shares now, IMO.
So a 1/300 r/s will reduce
shares again to 20M.Expect they
will again add a few shares for mgt.
Then they will price the stock warrants
they applied for recently, at a price of.xx.
Would expect the a/s count to be
at about 100M.
All IMO.
Scottrade
Anyone else notice UDSG=$.03 yesterday?
When I opened my broker acounts this
morning they all showed my udsg holdings
were worth $.03 per share. These shares
are restricted from trading, but seems
odd it would show last trade at $.03.
4Q10 report is important,IMO because
the co. has stated this is the first
quarter of revenues. We will see if
this business actually results in
revenues that could develope into
13M this year and 40M next year. The
report will also reveal the share
structure. Previous PR's didn't improve
stock price because it is still just
a plan, with no revenue verification.
IMO, stock won't improve until 4Q10
report is released. In August 2010
the CFO held a conference call with
shareholders and projected revenues
of .5M in 2010 and 1M for 2011. We
all know 2011 revenues are now
projected, by the co., to be 13M.
It will be interesting to see how
close they come to the .5M for 2010,
when they release the report for
the 4Q and the full year. If report
is viewed as positive, then we might
see the stock price improve.
Happy New Year all.
We need a buyout!
1.6B shares is my estimate.
That's how I got 1 penny.
Great potential here ladies....
Just would like to see pps at some reasonable
level. I don't talk with these guys often
but none seem to have the concern I do about
a zero bid.
My lastest discussion was with the CFO, Jeff
Smith. Some Q&A comments:
Q:Are your costs for 2012 going to increase
at the same rate as the revenue increase from 2011?
A:He said no. He also led me to belive that increases
will be more computer hardware related than manpower.
Q:I had a few related to revenues.....
A:He indicated that Q4 will be the biggest quarter
each year, largley due to the catering business.
He also indicated towards the end of 2011 they will
look to enter other businesses, not just food.
From this discussion I made a guess on eps in 2012.
I wouldn't be surprised to see eps at $.01. Then
with revenus and earnings growing at 100% or more
one could put a pretty high P/E multiple on this
stock. My guess would be pps at $.25 or higher,
imo.
Sure hope it doesn't, armyseal.
If this trades down to a bid
of zero the stock is finished,
imo.
I've talked with Ryan, Roger,
and the CFO (Jeff Smith) and
they all seem positive about
business, but lack concern
for the stock price.
Thanks Sully.
I finally was able to talk
with Roger today. He referred
me to Jeff Smith. Jeff is
not in today, so I'll try
tomorrow. I called about
getting a bettor understanding
of operational expenses. Will
report on this board, if I get
any new info.
Thanks again.
intheclouds, I'm the
bad guy. I put in 5M
limit @ 4 and some got
filled and it went to
4x5, then went back to
3x4 for the rest of my
order.
I'm still can't get a
return call from co.,
but remain very bullish.
Good luck to all.
That's how they get revenues,
but how would you estimate
cost of sales? That's the
only way we can estimate
earnings. I believe once
wall steet understands that
and actually sees a good
4Q10 reported we all will
have a great New Year.
Sully, thanks for sharing
all your conversations with
the company. The reason I
keep asking you about cost
is because they have never
answered my question. I
thought they might have
to you, but apparently not.
But that still doesn't
allow a shareholder with
any way to estimate cost.
How would you estimate
cost for 2012, based on
2011 numbers? For example,
believing the 13M revs and
that they break even in
2011, how would you increase
cost for a 40M revenue year?
TIA
Sully, has Ryan or Roger
ever explained what they
sell? Is it software? I
think part of the pps problem
is few people understand
what makes up the cost of
sales. Therefore no one
can estimate earnings for
2012, even if you believe
the revenue forcasts.
Thanks.
You're very welcome!
Gmoneypenny, I said price/sales,
not eps, Please reread my message.
Companies are valued on both
sales and earnings. In this case
with little or no earnings
wallstreet will value on p/s.
When estimating pps based
on market cap you need to
use O/S (outstanding shares),
not A/S (authorized shares).
Let's assume 13M is correct
for 2011 revenues and O/S
stays at 1.6B shares. A high
growth co. like DTSL will
have high multiples, so assume
a price/sales multiple of 10.
(Many tech cos. have p/s of
more than 10.). So with a
10 p/s multiple market cap
could reach 130M. Then
pps = $130M/1600M shares =
$.081. And 2012 pps could
reach $.25.
All just estimates!
Hope you're right Sully,
about further dilution.
Thanks
Sully, why the constant focus
on float? They have 3B A/S,
eventually the O/S will equal
the A/S. Plus, the pps is limited
by O/S because market cap is
calculated with O/S, not float.
I'm a share holder, so I want
a high pps, but this mgt team
has really diluted big time.
And, won't they dilute futher?
Otherwise, why have 3B in A/S?
Thanks for listening.
I feel your pain Thomas.
Was only sharing info.
Not bullish or bearish,
just waiting.
Financials for 2Q10 released,
on pinksheets.com. They are
unaudited. Called company and
they said audited won't happen
until about year end.
Requested them to put out a PR
explaining this and other issues.
They said PR next week, but couldn't
share topic(s).
Has anyone else communicated
with company? Any other info.?
Talked with company recently:
1) audited fin. by about mid-Sept
2) more news forthcoming, in a few days
Anyone else talked with company?
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Good luck.
Back to take another look
at HPNN. After reading some
posts, things look about the
same. Saw some press on
penny sites the last few days.
Hope all is well with you all.
Anyone know when UDSG shares
will convert to DTSL (1/50)?
More press today.
Seems like they are
finally ready for launch.
Pinksheets data is from 2007.
Would be good to get an update.
PR today sounds interesting.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UDS-Group-Inc-Updates-the-iw-15114928.html
"He has zero credibility left. Making blatant lies..."
Sounds like he could run for President. No
different from the one currently in office.
Share price seems to be manipulated
into the ground, as you put it. Seems
like progress is being made in the
business, but mgt needs to start
defending the company with wall street.
Don't know how long they can stay in
business with a zero stock price/market cap.
Anyone have a take on todays press release?
Good call casinogambler.
Anyone talk with the company
the last few days?
UDSG pps is getting ready
for an explosive move to the
upside. Everything is finally
being put in place.
nothing new or important for
pps value decrease either
Yes it does pogie.
Should be interesting.
If you haven't, some good news for HPNN
billy, did you read the last HPNN
press realease?