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NITE won't let the party start!!!
Double Yeah Baby!!!
Oh Behave.
:)
Ah, the sweet stench of bitter desperation...
The preceding post will induce a yawn...
Thanks for stopping by!
: )
Cliff
Looks like you're still having thumb spasms before puncuation marks.
Yawn
Thanks for dropping by
DO NOT RESPOND TO PRECEDING POST!
:)
Bullseye!
Arrogance, it is what it is...
http://www.agoracom.com/nonmemforum/msgreview.asp?id=237875&refid=237791&orig=237726
Thank you Joe, I second Ucan's sentiments
OT, Again: Ucan, I did post there. I think your post sums it up even better thann mine. For the record, my PMs to Bob were sent long before TorF showed up.
Matt, of the .000001% the posts that are, and this is an extraordinary stretch, in any manner an attempt at/or to initiate constructive criticism all have an amazing amount of PLAGIARISM that is cut and pasted from 24/7 Google searches and Clearstation charts (or wherever Karnac the Magnifico downloading his "wisdom" from these days).
"... with a helluva ability to write pointed, clear statements that are negative towards EDIG.
You haven't reached critical mass in this regard, but you will. He has never disappointed anyone in his endeavor to be a misinformed, misguided and completely disingenuous nuisance.
OT: Ucan,
(not being able to PM you is annoying)
I don't understand where Bob was coming from, because he summarily blocked (and I was his first) my ability to respond to him in private. Hey, for all I know he's having a bad day.
I certainly wasn't trying to provoke him. What's up?
We have plenty of intelligent debate, discussions and differences here.
I can appreciate Matt taking the time to post his beliefs:
"Furthermore, a debate/discussion can not exist without a negative view. Like politics. You can't have a debate without someone who disagrees with you. If you pay attention and argue the messages and not the person, you'll come out a more intelligent and stronger person (mentally and financially). Information is power. You need it from both sides. It's healthy."
I thought that's what I was doing with BobZ.
OT: berge,
If you don't mind, read my post over on agora.
wmd68
OT: Very true. Those are all good and very valid points.
Has to be Mr Vaughn's, funny, I thought he liked it.
Careful where you tread!
He told me he wouldn't dignify my "c r a p" with a response.
Altough it was almost word for word for what ucan just posted.
I should post it over on Agora
OT: rwrf, thanks, I was hoping a few people would take a couple to read it.
OT: SSI, I'll email you the PM's or post them in live chat...
I already know how it is and is going to be handled.
You won't like his attitude or take on this board.
OT: Actually...
FWIF, I gotta agree with Sent on the Twomil debate.
I've even questioned Twomil (Bob&Marla) on Agora as to why they continually fan the flames.
I also thought their responses were arrogant, but I'm starting to think that's the lesser of the two evils.
OT: You're in his house.
Do some DD already, sheesh!
:)
OT: Yup, and it all boils down to click$
Posted by: Bob Zumbrunnen
In reply to: lownumba who wrote msg# 20677 Date:2/11/2003 3:33:53 PM
Post #of 20682
I have come to find out that it never ends.
So true. The realization of which finally stopped my particiption in the RB AZNT thread, and also is a reason I'm on this side of the obsession now instead of over on that side.
If someone's gonna make a living (eventually) off of that addictiveness, well, I'm a nice enough guy to deserve to.
OT: LL, before you go jumping to conclusions!
She's over on the Q&A board chatting with BobZ and Matt!!!!
Check out the posts yourself!
I've tried PM'ing BobZ about this BS, it's like talking to a brick wall...
See for yourself...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=504
Guess who's coming to dinner....!
Posted by: FactOrFiction
In reply to: Bob Zumbrunnen who wrote msg# 20632
Bob Zumbrunnen:
Your posts about the EDIG board have left me pleasantly surprised. I had been under the definite impression that iHub was created for stock promotors and that's why the "zero tolerance" for bashers rule existed.
It sounds like you are in favor of more balanced discussions that stay on topic and are free from personal attack. It seems that you might understand that many people who criticize an investment are not "bashing" but may be presenting valid causes for investor concern.
I would appreciate clarification from you on this as I might be interested in posting some of my verifiable DD on that board from time to time, but would want to avoid the vulgar and massive personal attacks that are waged by so-called "longs" on RB.
I realize that if my posts were not appropriate or if I violated the TOU, I would be subject to termination. One of the reasons that I am so feared by some longs is that I am very factual in my DD and what I post is verifiable. I am also able to understand and analyze the financial statements. Those who do not want anything negative ever posted, get frustrated because they can't argue against my facts. They simply resort to calling me a basher, a liar or things much more vulgar and often not appropriate for a public forum.
I agree that RB is a zoo with multiple aliases wreaking havoc. However, the reason that the iHub EDIG board is becoming more like RB is not because dissenting opinions are posted. It's because of the personal attacks waged against those who anything dissenting or negative.
If your goal is to have a forum where all points of view can be posted as long as they are on topic and within the TOU, it would be good to encourage some rational dissenters and not allow their posts to be deleted just because the moderators don't like them. Right now, there is a lot of false hype posted on that board and no one is able to refute it with facts.
On the other hand, if your goal is to provide a safe haven for longs to be free from ever hearing anything that might threaten the value of theirn investment, I think you should place a disclaimer prominently on the board that lets participants know that it is censored to portray only hype and positive information.
Thank you for listening and for your clarification.
Cassandra
OT: oops, now - sorry all, can't PM
sent, rb mail
IH Admin(Matt) "ZERO TOLERANCE... of disruptive posts"
as per current, "Current iHub EDIG Board Policy"
Chairman of the Board concept:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/faq.asp
How is the site managed?
...The site is managed with a zero-tolerance policy for morons.
Matt, I don't know what you consider to be zero tolerance, but allow me to put forth a classic example of a sick "moron":
(This msg. is a reply to 992556 by zackery_miller.)
Zack, you are the expert on multiple personalities:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=astockcollapsenow 864
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=BullMarket (Messages
removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=CrapDice 3,529
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSH! 223 bashing
messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSHED! 2 bashing
messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=JINX 669 bashing
messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=Live2Win 4,800
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=mighty_zoilus 152
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=momustheharuspex 271
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=OBSTEPEROUS (Messages
removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=thor_steelthruster
352 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=warm_warmer_disco 482
bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=zackery_miller 1,314
bashing messages
Clearly, RB doesn't have a problem with the more than 30,000 "disruptive" posts that this idiot adds to there clicks
Matt, this isn't a First Amendment issue and you aren't the ACLU. Unlike the shareholders of this equity, you don't have a vested interest in Edigital, but the burden is on you to maintain the legitimacy and relevance of this forum and I would hope that you take that task seriously. Furthermore, do you really care/expect people to continue to use and frequent this particular forum as long as you go against the wishes of its customers...
OT: IMO You're dead on with multiple aliases
if you're intentions are genuine/honorable, multiple handles and accounts aren't necessary and shouldn't be allowed in a forum where people are invested in the belief that Edig is going to thrive.
buy - sell - or trade, who cares! just be honest, if that's asking/expecting too much, take it to RB
I think Mr Vaughn gave the O1K a thumbs up!
As for this review, terrific, it's not even that bad.
Imagine, a cheap case from Asia - I'm stunned, it can't be.
ID3 tags, will be tweeked to work with VoiceNav and this fix wasn't worth delaying this player again.
If we delayed past 2/5, this board would have China Syndromed the IHub servers in twenty minutes.
Take it with a grain of salt, these comparisons have been provided by a young man who has put forth a decent effort
(must have quite a bit of time on his hands), unfortunately, he's also demonstrated a considerable amount of immaturity.
At least the kid is up front about who he is, go visit his site, he's posted everything from his resume to personal pix.
But as the saying goes, ignorance is bliss.
(BTW, does this pattern of behavior remind anyone else of another young man who likes to cut and paste his way into our hearts several hundred times a week.)
Why are they allowed to post here? Who knows, but they're sure having fun stirring up a tempest in a teapot.
OH MY GOD, RTQ QUOTES PLEASE!!! PR JUST ANNOUNCED WE'RE GOING WITH COACH LEATHER CASES FOR O1K
; )
Now that was funny!
Lighten up folks, IMO, if you've been on this rollercoaster for 4 years, another few months won't kill you.
Is it me or do people seriously expect this company to disclose every financial and logistical detail concerning product inventories on a daily basis - would this really in the company's best interest?
Get a grip!
And...
you're the bigger person for not suggesting that he take his "megabucks" and sell -
and/or
compare him with jimmee11
ID3 tags
A basher brought this overblown concern to the fore...
"but when it is an industry standard and you are spending $350, you would expect it to be there, plus we don't need any negatives on this player"
I think we are setting an industry standard with VoiceNav -
as per RP, ironing out the engineering to make it work with ID3 wasn't worth delaying the launch again.
I hear ya...
But there were so many fundamental flaws in the misguided lack of logic, that it really didn't warrant any debate (i.e., 3 mos timeframe) - does anybody really think his intentions are anything other than to make himself the center of attention, by any means necessary.
It isn't about investing, he (and most folks on RB) just love to drop t*rds in the punchbowl - it's an obnoxious, self-centered, pathetic plea for acceptance.
Take the bait, they win - plain and simple.
Enuff said.
Actually...
None of the other equities that I own are afflicted with such persistent parasites. The various discussion boards for these stocks generally serve their intended purpose because, for the most part, people simply ignore the malcontents (as well as silly, disingenuous hype). If these idiots can't bait an audience, they move on to another group that will be less discerning.
"if it sparks some commentary, great. It's better to have something to talk about than to hype far more esoteric speculation as happens here a good amount of the time now"
Todd, I'd rather not see ANYTHING from an idiot that insists it's his right to inflict his bizarre behavior on others.
Anyone who is capable of this :
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=733751
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=astockcollapsenow 864 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=BullMarket (Messages removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=CrapDice 3,529 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSH! 223 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSHED! 2 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=JINX 669 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=Live2Win 4,800 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=mighty_zoilus 152 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=momustheharuspex 271 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=OBSTEPEROUS (Messages removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=thor_steelthruster 352 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=warm_warmer_disco 482 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=zackery_miller 1,314 bashing messages
As of June 18, 2002, over 12,000 messages on a stock he doesn't own...let's figure he's probably pushing 30,000 by now!
...anyone who is capable of this is clearly exhibiting, IMO, much bigger mental health issues that need attention long before anybody wastes time or bandwith debating the virtues of his "options".
Can we just keep the garbage in the dumpster,
if you really need it, it's not hard to find!
Yeah, let's do some math!
Although this is probably closer to fact than theory.
To begin, although JimC's post was deleted on RB (go figure), it's still stands as an outstanding example of how far the pendulum can swing away from noble human accomplishment to the rantings of a pathetic imbecile:
...but, before we begin to begin!
It's post like this that beg the question, "How has this dellusional maggot managed to live this long?" As we all know and shall soon see boys and girls, it's because he never leaves cyberspace!
By: zackery_miller
01 Feb 2003, 01:59 PM EST Msg. 1105866 of 1106218
My deepest sympathies to the loved ones of our fallen comrades. Having said that, it's time to cut the NASA budget to zero. Beside velcro, exactly what has the program contributed to society?
A Mars space rover? A broken telescope?
Huge pork.
As of June 18, 2002, over 12,000 messages here?
Let the fun begin![b/]
By: jimc1997 $$$$$
18 Jun 2002, 09:10 PM EDT Msg. 992560 of 992582
(This msg. is a reply to 992556 by zackery_miller.)
Zack, you are the expert on multiple personalities:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=astockcollapsenow 864 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=BullMarket (Messages removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=CrapDice 3,529 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSH! 223 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=FLUSHED! 2 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=JINX 669 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=Live2Win 4,800 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=mighty_zoilus 152 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=momustheharuspex 271 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=OBSTEPEROUS (Messages removed due to extreme vulgarity)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=thor_steelthruster 352 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=warm_warmer_disco 482 bashing messages
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/memalias.cgi?member=zackery_miller 1,314 bashing messages[b/]
Repeat, as of June 18, 2002, over 12,000 messages here?
Let's extrapolate from there and figure he's probably pushing 30,000 by now!
and add the messages of another dozen or so aliases, even more forgettable than these.
Jim may have forgotten to insert an IMO, but, at this point, why bother!
Of course, we all have to remember the source for this babble:
- 27 years old and still spending all day and night posting on internet message boards as his only source of social life, even with those who know how pathetic he really is.
- Flunked out of one of the easiest colleges in the country.
- Fired from job after job after job.
- No apartment of his own, begging his "girlfriend" to let him stay just one more week, honest!
- Not even a phone in his own name!
- Fabricating absurd tales of accomplishments such as a Northwestern MBA to try to "impress" these strangers.
- Posting even more pathetic tales of drug use and cheating on his girlfriend in her own apartment.
- Unable to maintain a single alias on that message board for more than a couple of months because he just can't help violating the simple terms of service.
And his recent wild claims:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=974704
"Don't worry about my credentials Jimbo, I have the documents to support them ..."
Now would that statement be a "fact," an "opinion" or, as usual, a lie?
By: astockcollapsenow
26 Apr 2002, 07:43 PM EDT Msg. 961273 of 974837
(This msg. is a reply to 961263 by jimc1997.)
"Yes. I have a CFA and a CPA and I am a former Vice President of a prominent Wall Street institution. I am also a former Officer of a large bank."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=EDIG&read=961273
I am sure that the AICPA and the AIMR would take serious exception to your claims in that post.
Here's the math: Even at a conservative estimation of 45 seconds per post multiplied by, oh say, 30,000 (give or take a few thousand) how many 40 hour work weeks (and that's 40 contiuous, hours - there will be no breaks for the obsessed!)has this person invested in posting about an equity he doesn't own?
Extra credit question:
"{What} fool struts upon the stage, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
RP's response would be very interesting...
It didn't seem like being proactive in this matter
was very difficult or necessarily required a cumbersome
drain on time or precious resources.
Not expecting anything other than passive/submissive shrug his shoulders approach to this matter as it relates to our pps and dealing with the manipulative forces at play... but taking any/some sort of stance/action would be a welcome and refreshing change.
Sky... did RP ever reply to you re that article you sent him the other night concerning naked shorting on OTC article/service???
Board Suggestion
I might be alone on this, but a while back Matt stated that the number of aliases in use on this board approached RB status.
What TOS at IHub keeps these individuals from being "outed" - if a poster's intentions are honest, then, surely there would be no harm and simple, sincere explanations to account for such multiple aliases would be welcomed.
I don't mind dissent (Edig management has done plenty to raise my blood pressure). It's the constant deception that is a primary source of never ending strife and conflict in forums that are intended as safe havens for genuine investors (if such a thing still exists). Some individuals (and society has no shortage of these characters) thrive on this sort of negative attention as a form of entertainment. Well, there are plenty of internet forums to meet their desperate and pathetic needs for what is probably their only form of social interaction.
Is there any possibility that we can create a board that requires a verifiable stake in the success of Edigital - if you're a daytrader, so be it, but it's out in the open and accepted as your chosen form of investing. If you've been a victim of tremendous financial losses due in Edig, get in what is probably a very long line, but this isn't exclusive to Edig. But these ongoing vendettas, whether it be with specific posters or with Edig itself, they can and should be played out like a broken record over on RB.
I came here so I didn't have to muddle through 1500 BS posts before coming across a single kernal of useful information that directly related to Edig. I believe there are probably a few people who would like to engage in honest discourse concerning Edig... after 4 years of this nonsense, is anyone else as exasperated in the apparent need to suffer the fools that are compelled to ooze into every mode of discussion concering this company?
Over the years I have learned a great deal and value the insight of some posters. It truly is very sad that it has to come at such a ridiculous and unnecessary expense.
OT: request for Tinroad
I'm not taking issue with the fact that you deleted my post, but I don't need a subscription, so I don't have the option to PM. I have asked Todd to forward you my contact info (as I was told it is the only way to obtain the p/w), so that I can simply visit the live chat whenever there is a CC.
TIA