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I am long on this stock though rather disappointed at this time. When I log onto the board and there are about 5 bashers to each pump, it doesn't seem that paid pumpers are going to keep the price as steady as it has been this last week. Seems that those that believe in the success of the company in spite of the late AF's and not selling is more likely the case.
Going to be a tough day today.
mo
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I will not lose as much as others here if this doesn't pan out. This is not my only stock. I have had very high hopes for this company and its success. Let this be the day of Dubai and the Edgar transparency..
mo
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Even if the AF's come out today, PV seems to have been his own worst enemy.
mo
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I hate to say it, but you are right.
mo
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Just a question for my amusement.
Is there any boards with more than 34 bans?
There is a lot of EMOTION here and lot of paid bashers here.
mo
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I have invested in sljb on both the fundamentals of the company and PV's actions. I am beginning to feel like a second class citizen in line of things. Still holding, though the risk has become greater, the reward is higher than the risk at this time-my opinion. What goes up, does go down, but what goes down-does go up.
It may be right that PV might not be calling the final shots now..
mo
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Posting onthe Dubai and our exchange at the same time would be tremendous. Hopefully that is what is going on. And, he has a plan that is going to kill the shorts. Either way there is going to be a lot of selling today. There will be probably 10 bashers for each long today..
mo
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I know. in-out-in-out-in-out. Enough to make one have a heart attack.
Fool me once-shame on you
Fool me twice-shame on me....
The company has everything going for it-timing, assets, opportunity, contacts and contracts. Lets just hope they still have stockholders by 4pm. I have been up on PV and the company, especially the last week. Probably just better shut my mouth and see what happen. what'cha gonna do?
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Man, I sure hope you are right. I hate to say it but there is going to be a dump throughout the day. Probably down to .07 by 4pm..They have the assets, but killing us longs.
mo
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Please be advised that the financials which were promised on November 15 2006 will be
posted shortly. We have experience a slight unforeseeable delay. This delay will be
address by 4am EST and the financials will be posted at that time or shortly after.
A new CEO statement will be posted early on November 16 2006 explaining the delay
and matters concerning the financials. It is our intention to post this statement prior to
posting the financials.
We sincerely apologize if this has caused any problems to our shareholders; it is clearly
not our intention to do so.
Thank you all for your patience, understanding, and continued support.
Petar Vucicevich
have done it a few times myself..
mo
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lol.. You got that right!
mo
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Hey, oldboldpilot. If you don't like what I am saying, Please hit the iggy button..Obviously I am not here for you..
mo
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I am with you..have done my DD and will stand on it. NOT selling. If no AF's, then I have been dissappointed before. If my confidence in sljb had been shaken even a little, I would have sold already...Willing to go to the end.
Reware/risk? Reward is muchhhhhh greater than the risk. I love it when the bashers come in force!
mo
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Nah, don't ban the bashers..tomorrow we wil know exactly who they are and why they are here..The af's come out tonight. Boom tomorrow and a lot of paid bashers looking for work friday!!!
mo
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There is always indicision in a situation like this. You have done your DD. Nothing has changed except the amount of Bashers here. NOTHING HAS CHANGED why you bought in the first place. AF's out tonight..make some $$$ tomorrow!
mo
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Market Makers..induce liquidity in the market. They establish the sell/buy price in the market. In penny stocks the price can be manipulated tremendousley by them to create either a low price or high depending on motivation. There is a tremendous pressure to keep the price down. Lots of other factors, but in a nut shell. I believe there is a shortage of stock with negative shares. When a stock goes up, the MM's end up buying at market price..This is where will be tomorrow!
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Bashers working over time! MM's must be really short to work this hard to try to keep the sp down.
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We'll check the l2 after close..then we will see the large blocks bought-reconciled after hours..seen it before..we'll see it today. MM's don't want us to see the large block sales..keeping the price down. They can take down to .08. tomorrow will be a different story..AF's out after hours!
mo
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Great post..Bashers in the lead here!
Where are you going to be when the AF's come out?
mo
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Best post of the day!!
Posted by: Maximyer
In reply to: None Date:11/14/2006 11:35:02 PM
Post #of 160641
Compendium for friends new to trading.
I put together a more basic compendium for my brother-in-law who has finally decided to look into SLJB. Better late than never.
He is new to trading, but smart enough to do his due diligence and wanted a jumpstart. So I put together some information that I thought was appropriate to his understanding of the stock market and afterwards, thought it might be useful for anybody who knows of someone who knows a little about trading, but you would like to see reap the rewards of investing in SLJB.
Check it out, see if you agree, and forward it as you see fit. It contains a little of my opinion in it. If I made a mistake, please let me know.
Hey Joe,
Here are my reasons for believing that SLJB’s stock price will go up:
Limited shares are available for purchase. Many shares are restricted and/or held by insiders.
Since SLJB reverse merged with Loftwerks, they absorbed the shorted share position of Loftwerks. When the price goes up significantly (like tomorrow?) the market makers who shorted Loftwerks know that they will eventually have to deliver the shares that they sold without actually owning them first. They will have to buy them at the market price when it goes up instead of the market price it would have been at if it had gone down. The difference to them will be enormous, and will be worse the longer they wait to ‘cover’ their shorts. This will cause a huge demand in shares which will add to the rise in price.
This company is different from most ‘Pink Sheet’ companies in that they are profitable and have been profitable for 25 years. When a reputable auditing company puts their stamp on the financials, a lot of doubt about this company will be relieved and hordes of investors will want a part of this company at this bargain price. The doubt about whether or not this is a scam is keeping A LOT of investors on the sidelines right now. The problem is that when the doubt is eliminated there will be a line longer than those at Disney World to buy this stock. The price will soar before anyone will be able to buy. I am willing to take the chance so as to get a substantial amount of stock at these prices. The CEO, Petar, has been around for a long time in other profitable companies. He is still part of and/or employed by some of these companies, and for this reason, I don’t think that he would risk all that he has going for him to be involved in a scam. Some of these companies now have a staked interest one way or another in the growth of SLJB. Furthermore, why involve a company that has been profitable for 25 years in a scam either?
Right now, no investment company in their right mind would recommend that their clients invest in this pink sheet stock, regardless of the growth potential. However, when SLJB achieves it’s goal of uplisting from the pink sheets, investment firms, hedge funds, mutual funds, etc. will jump all over this stock. They simply can’t recommend it while it is a pinkie. When SLJB uplists to the OTCBB and eventually the NASDAQ, it will be incredible to watch the buying of shares. Again, demand for shares will far outpace the supply and the price will rise dramatically. (This will happen next year, not this week.)
One of the biggest reasons for me to believe that this stock will go up significantly in price is that the company is worth a lot in the way of assets right now. They have also been very profitable. This is worth a lot to those who own a part of this company, a lot more than is reflected in the price of those parts. That will change when everyone sees the audit with the stamp of a respected, unbiased auditing company with their neck on the line, confirming what this company is worth.
I believe, after much reading, discussion, and research, that this company has been ‘sandbagging’ profitable deals. I think that once they have audited financials to help assure their reputability, they will begin to announce some of these deals. This will further drive their price up because they company will have a bright future towards better earnings than they already have. In addition to their already profitable business here in North America, SLJB is being brought in to provide building materials for the enormous construction projects going on in the Middle East, specifically Dubai. Read about this on Ihub’s SLJB front page called the IBox. I’ve seen the episode on the Discovery Channels show in the series called Mega Builders in which the building of these ultra luxury islands was featured. It’s incredible!!!
Here is some informative links on SLJB. It’s a lot to read, so I pretty much listed them in order of what I think you will find most useful and informative.
Here is some history in a nutshell through Aug. 8, 2006. Much more has transpired since, like the acquisition of Sam’s Building Materials. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12929614
(if this one doesn’t work, let me know)
http://www.priinvestmentgroup.com/sljb.html actually, the same, or more, information can be found in this link http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14614182
Here is the company’s Proforma for 2007. Amazing expectations.
http://www.suljabros.com/pdf/proforma07.pdf
This math lesson assumed that the $350 million cement deal was landed (it wasn’t, but others are supposedly in the works). Just take out the $350 million, which is less than half, and cut those price targets by less than half to get an idea of why this stock is expected to go way higher once doubt is relieved.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13361860
Wessal to buy 25% stake in Sulja Bros in the open market, which means they are buying the stock that we are buying.
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/08/21/10061629.html
The contract with a tire recycling plant in Berlin.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060517/0129924.html
Sulja Bros. website. When you go to the blog (if you really want to delve through all the investor’s BS), note that there are 2 blogs.
http://www.suljabros.com
Here is a list of notable and informative posts that someone (fdjr13, whom I respect) thinks that newcomers to this stock might find useful. You’ll probably find some duplication in some of what I’ve included here for you.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14548966
Here is a lesson on short selling of shares and what it means to this stock. Call me if you need any clarification, it will be easier to answer your questions than try to anticipate them and then answer them.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13656694
This is the latest good summary of some speculation as to what is happening with the stock price and what could happen (12 November)
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14726000
Here is a July 31 press release summarizing SLJB’s financial position as of this summer. Not bad for a ‘Pink Sheet’ company.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060731/0149129.html
Well, what do you think? It’s a lot to read, I know. I don’t exactly want to recommend that you buy this stock because we could all have been fooled. But, you know that I am in over my head because I think the risk is worth the possible reward.
Do what you think you should, but don’t wait too long. I don’t know when it will be too late to get in at these prices, because I expected that they would have already been through $.20 by now on anticipation of the AFs. Most people think that the reason it isn’t is because of the delays in releasing the AFs in the recent past. I hope that is the only reason and that that will be history by tomorrow night.
Call me anytime with any questions.
Good luck,
Robert
PS, whew, I’m done!
It IS an investment firm that invests for their clients. they saw something you didn"t
mo
BD
Posted by: fdjr13
In reply to: sandvet who wrote msg# 159976 Date:11/15/2006 9:05:01 AM
Post #of 160681
http://searchwww.sec.gov/EDGARFSClient/jsp/EDGAR_MainAccess.jsp#topAnchor
type in sulja
mo
BD
If you put in "sulja" it will show the industrial buy!
mo
BD
Best post of the day!!
Posted by: Maximyer
In reply to: None Date:11/14/2006 11:35:02 PM
Post #of 160641
Compendium for friends new to trading.
I put together a more basic compendium for my brother-in-law who has finally decided to look into SLJB. Better late than never.
He is new to trading, but smart enough to do his due diligence and wanted a jumpstart. So I put together some information that I thought was appropriate to his understanding of the stock market and afterwards, thought it might be useful for anybody who knows of someone who knows a little about trading, but you would like to see reap the rewards of investing in SLJB.
Check it out, see if you agree, and forward it as you see fit. It contains a little of my opinion in it. If I made a mistake, please let me know.
Hey Joe,
Here are my reasons for believing that SLJB’s stock price will go up:
Limited shares are available for purchase. Many shares are restricted and/or held by insiders.
Since SLJB reverse merged with Loftwerks, they absorbed the shorted share position of Loftwerks. When the price goes up significantly (like tomorrow?) the market makers who shorted Loftwerks know that they will eventually have to deliver the shares that they sold without actually owning them first. They will have to buy them at the market price when it goes up instead of the market price it would have been at if it had gone down. The difference to them will be enormous, and will be worse the longer they wait to ‘cover’ their shorts. This will cause a huge demand in shares which will add to the rise in price.
This company is different from most ‘Pink Sheet’ companies in that they are profitable and have been profitable for 25 years. When a reputable auditing company puts their stamp on the financials, a lot of doubt about this company will be relieved and hordes of investors will want a part of this company at this bargain price. The doubt about whether or not this is a scam is keeping A LOT of investors on the sidelines right now. The problem is that when the doubt is eliminated there will be a line longer than those at Disney World to buy this stock. The price will soar before anyone will be able to buy. I am willing to take the chance so as to get a substantial amount of stock at these prices. The CEO, Petar, has been around for a long time in other profitable companies. He is still part of and/or employed by some of these companies, and for this reason, I don’t think that he would risk all that he has going for him to be involved in a scam. Some of these companies now have a staked interest one way or another in the growth of SLJB. Furthermore, why involve a company that has been profitable for 25 years in a scam either?
Right now, no investment company in their right mind would recommend that their clients invest in this pink sheet stock, regardless of the growth potential. However, when SLJB achieves it’s goal of uplisting from the pink sheets, investment firms, hedge funds, mutual funds, etc. will jump all over this stock. They simply can’t recommend it while it is a pinkie. When SLJB uplists to the OTCBB and eventually the NASDAQ, it will be incredible to watch the buying of shares. Again, demand for shares will far outpace the supply and the price will rise dramatically. (This will happen next year, not this week.)
One of the biggest reasons for me to believe that this stock will go up significantly in price is that the company is worth a lot in the way of assets right now. They have also been very profitable. This is worth a lot to those who own a part of this company, a lot more than is reflected in the price of those parts. That will change when everyone sees the audit with the stamp of a respected, unbiased auditing company with their neck on the line, confirming what this company is worth.
I believe, after much reading, discussion, and research, that this company has been ‘sandbagging’ profitable deals. I think that once they have audited financials to help assure their reputability, they will begin to announce some of these deals. This will further drive their price up because they company will have a bright future towards better earnings than they already have. In addition to their already profitable business here in North America, SLJB is being brought in to provide building materials for the enormous construction projects going on in the Middle East, specifically Dubai. Read about this on Ihub’s SLJB front page called the IBox. I’ve seen the episode on the Discovery Channels show in the series called Mega Builders in which the building of these ultra luxury islands was featured. It’s incredible!!!
Here is some informative links on SLJB. It’s a lot to read, so I pretty much listed them in order of what I think you will find most useful and informative.
Here is some history in a nutshell through Aug. 8, 2006. Much more has transpired since, like the acquisition of Sam’s Building Materials. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12929614
(if this one doesn’t work, let me know)
http://www.priinvestmentgroup.com/sljb.html actually, the same, or more, information can be found in this link http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14614182
Here is the company’s Proforma for 2007. Amazing expectations.
http://www.suljabros.com/pdf/proforma07.pdf
This math lesson assumed that the $350 million cement deal was landed (it wasn’t, but others are supposedly in the works). Just take out the $350 million, which is less than half, and cut those price targets by less than half to get an idea of why this stock is expected to go way higher once doubt is relieved.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13361860
Wessal to buy 25% stake in Sulja Bros in the open market, which means they are buying the stock that we are buying.
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/08/21/10061629.html
The contract with a tire recycling plant in Berlin.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060517/0129924.html
Sulja Bros. website. When you go to the blog (if you really want to delve through all the investor’s BS), note that there are 2 blogs.
http://www.suljabros.com
Here is a list of notable and informative posts that someone (fdjr13, whom I respect) thinks that newcomers to this stock might find useful. You’ll probably find some duplication in some of what I’ve included here for you.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14548966
Here is a lesson on short selling of shares and what it means to this stock. Call me if you need any clarification, it will be easier to answer your questions than try to anticipate them and then answer them.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13656694
This is the latest good summary of some speculation as to what is happening with the stock price and what could happen (12 November)
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=14726000
Here is a July 31 press release summarizing SLJB’s financial position as of this summer. Not bad for a ‘Pink Sheet’ company.
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060731/0149129.html
Well, what do you think? It’s a lot to read, I know. I don’t exactly want to recommend that you buy this stock because we could all have been fooled. But, you know that I am in over my head because I think the risk is worth the possible reward.
Do what you think you should, but don’t wait too long. I don’t know when it will be too late to get in at these prices, because I expected that they would have already been through $.20 by now on anticipation of the AFs. Most people think that the reason it isn’t is because of the delays in releasing the AFs in the recent past. I hope that is the only reason and that that will be history by tomorrow night.
Call me anytime with any questions.
Good luck,
Robert
PS, whew, I’m done!
At least not till tomorrow...
mo
BD
We have known for a while that the AF's will come out after hours today..Nothing else..
mo
BD
We already know the AF's won't come out till after hours..If sooner..!!
mo
BD
I don't think so, unless the bashers take the upper hand, late in the day there will be buys from those who don't want to take the chance this is legit and are willing to loose some if it is not.
here for the run!
mo
BD
I'll bet we have a lot of after hours reconcilation. Lot of people think that they are pink after hour sales..Some big buys won't show up until after hours...
mo
BD
No posts for 11 minutes..must be buys MM's don't want to show.
mo
bd
lol
mo
BD
Yes, buys going through
mo
BD
Going up...
mo
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l2
Symbol: SLJB
L2 Summary
Bid Level #MM's Size Ask Level #MM's Size
0.1000 2 200 0.1100 1 100
0.0000 0 0 0.1200 1 100
0.0000 0 0 0.0000 0 0
0.0000 0 0 0.0000 0 0
L2 Quote:
MM on Bid : 2
MM on Ask : 2
MM ID Bid Size Time
ETRD 0.1000 100 09:34:58
SBSH 0.1000 100 09:42:15
MM ID Ask Size Time
SBSH 0.1100 100 09:42:15
ETRD 0.1200 100 09:34:58
Looks like etrade thinks this is gonna go?
mo
BD
L2-i5 min out
Symbol: SLJB
L2 Summary
Bid Level #MM's Size Ask Level #MM's Size
0.0950 1 100 0.1000 1 100
0.0900 1 100 0.1200 1 100
0.0000 0 0 0.0000 0 0
0.0000 0 0 0.0000 0 0
L2 Quote:
MM on Bid : 2
MM on Ask : 2
MM ID Bid Size Time
ETRD 0.0950 100 09:06:02
SBSH 0.0900 100 08:50:13
MM ID Ask Size Time
SBSH 0.1000 100 08:50:13
ETRD 0.1200 100 09:06:02
Just checking in..(im)patiently waiting..
long
mo
BD
I agree here..Bashers will be out in force tomorrow! I have to work all day and won't have time to help. Keep reposting Maximyer's post through out the day. It is the best read and best fight against them. Let's Rock!
mo
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I vote this best post of the week!!
mo
BD