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I sure hope so kodiak...
I'm in the green (barely)...I'm just waiting for something..anything of a promotional nature. I wouldn't have even checked it out if it weren't for some bashers on RB.
If you're curious about ENGY.OB - Enviro-Energy Corp...
Their home page has the message:
"This site is currently unavailable."
It seems that sub pages however are still available:
http://www.enviro-energycorp.com/index.html
Their Q just came out today:
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/031120/engy.ob10qsb.html
If you don't like what you see...no worries...its trading at around 8/10ths of a penny so don't expect great news.
Anyone Care to Guess...
What subs will be included in hotstockchat's daily email? I get it shortly after 1PM EST so voting will close @ 12:30 EST
Re ENGY...
I'll be looking carefully for any promotion, I'm liking the look of the chart as it is...especially without any PRs or promotion.
I hope I don't get slammed for this...
sorry nemo...
I just don't like being attacked when posting totally reasonable commentary.
2 subs in my hotstockchat email today:
MYIQ and PHOX....I don't get the email until noon...do you figure there are people who know what stocks are going to be included before the email goes out?
Just an observation but it seems they mention alot of stocks that have recently gone on a bit of a run. Anyone know of a newsletter that profiles stocks trading at or near their lows?
ENGY stochastics moving to oversold imo...
Keep an eye, when volume picks up I think we'll see + movement.
I don't think so skunksregard...
I've looked at ENGY's chart at other times during the trading day and haven't seen it...other days its been there and then gone away....
Anyone else know or have an idea what that bright yellow candlestick thingee (sic) is?
Question RE Candlestick charting...
When you see that floresent yellow at stockcharts, what exactly does it denote? I notice that it doesn't stay....
Point out the fiction hollen...
and substantiate your assertations of insider dumping 'gimme shares' into all the bad news.
The alliteration (sp) was cute
Gord.
Starting to feel like RB's ENGY board...
Even when in was around 1/2 a cent. Post something that's even mildly optimistic...and BAM, outta the woodwork...its part of the reason I signed onto i-hub.
Don't understand all the interst either...there's no news, late financials, a web site that was unavailable still this morning...
Any thoughts on today's trading?
Can I post my thoughts on ENGY...
Without getting slammed for being bullish?
Point taken jim476...
I don't no why my comments on ENGY draw such fire...Do I come across as a pumper/tout? I always assumed touts worked stocks trading at or near their highs.
Whatever jmhollen...
You obviously don't think ENGY's prospects are good, and given the fundamental picture I don't blame ya at all.
Good luck finding an investment (investments) you like...I'll take my chances with ENGY, but I do acknowledge there is very definite risk, I could lose some or all of the $$$ I've put in.
Best
Gord
thanks GM Place re ENGY
Those are my thougts as well...the thought of 'insiders dumping gimme shares' into no news and late financials is almost laughable imo....if that were happening I don't see how the PPS would be showing any support at all.
FWIW their Q is already late, and based on their history I won't be suprised if an E is appended to the symbol. I'm keeping some powder dry in case that comes to pass...call it buying into FUD.
Ahhh, jmhollen Trading Patterns re ENGY
I said trading patterns, not trading problems...
I realize your anxious to keep the tone on ENGY negative, but try reading my posts with your ego in check...it'll improve your comprehension skills.
I do enjoy discussing my investment, as much as you seem to enjoy slamming it
I'm assuming you sold...back in March of 02 when you were posting bullishsly perhaps?
BTW...ENGY gets bashed alot on RB too...
Even when it was 1/2 a cent...don't know what all the fuss is about.
Spin hollen??? RE ENGY
If I was trying to 'spin' do you think I would have posted Bowers' letter of resignation???
Where did I mention trading problems????
jmhollen re ENGY...
I realize its much tougher to be bullish on a stock when the news is non existent or bad, and all you have is your opinion of trading patterns.
Its a lot easier when there's some press and promotion going on...like back in March of 2002 when you created i-hubs ENGY forum...
Appreciate you outlining some of the risk factors. The nice thing here is nobody can talk about a P&D....
Happy investing
RE ENGY...Left out something...
If you go to their web site, its currently unavailable:
http://www.enviro-energycorp.com/
I'm speculating here, nothing more nothing less...but frankly I hope that today's trading shook out the momo and day trading crowd.
I don't know what the financials for the MRQ are going to look like...but if they're comparatively good, or if there's some other good news in the offing...it would go a long way to explaining the price volume movements of the past few months in my opinion.
Tons of risk, and very real potential for losses in my opinion. Do your own DD and reach your own conclusions. I consider it a very real possibility that I could lose some or all of my investment.
Fair Comments Marty Re ENGY...Some things you should know...
I'm gonna go back to June of this year but I think its very relevant.
Back on July 18 an 8K was filed announcing the resignation of Director/CEO/CFO Bowers, (I think he filled the coffee machine as well). The effective date of the resignation was June 5, 2003. While it was only reported a month and a 1/2 later I assume there must have been at least some shareholders who were aware of it prior.
The appended letter of resignation made a couple very alarming assertations:
"My decision to resign is based on the lack of adequate funds to provide for any continued corporate efforts including those required by the various regulatory agencies which over see an govern public organizations."
AND
"It is my opinion that the shareholders of Enviro-Energy Corporation are being ignored in the pending transactions. I also believe that these pending actions are in part being taken to cover up illegal acts by control people within the Company."
http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001052918%2D03%2D000177%2Etxt&FilePath...
Now pull up a chart of ENGY which includes the period just prior to and after June 5th when that letter of resignation is dated. As I said, I assume there must have been at least some shareholders aware of his departure....
Look at the volumes...From the date of the actual filing, July 18th to August 8th not one day's trading of 1 million shares or more according to my numbers. Early July actually saw ENGY go on a mini run on heavy volume, without any news or promotion.
As for the CRG (thesubway) opinions...nothing came out until after the big volume spikes of Oct. 20 and 21. Frankly the only time I see those CRG opinions is when they put one out on a stock I own. I'd just as soon they weren't there as I hate promotion, but there they are.
Finally the most recent volume spikes of Nov. 14 and 17 (this past Friday and Monday)....they came in spite of the fact that ENGY filed that their financials would be late....
Anyway, enough rambling
My Take On ENGY's Chart Marty Man...
Leaving aside the imo overbought stochastics, look at the recent trend in volume.
The first large green bar in volume starting at the left is Oct. 9th when I show volume at over 11 million.
Its followed by a significant, (but smaller in size) red bar 2 trading sessions later on Oct. 13th where I show volume at over 8 million.
October 20 and 21 followed the same pattern but to a larger degree. Frankly I was expecting Monday to be a down day of (imo) consolidation on volume below Friday.
I use OBV as well, and I like the picture here. I wouldn't be nearly as bullish if there was positive press out, or some type of promotion going on here...but that's not the case unless I've missed something. The most recent news of which I'm aware is that their financials are late and that their web site is 'unavailable'....
Pretty amazing in my opinion...seeing a stock trade this way in the face of bad news. Saw similar activity in NT back in the summer/fall of 2002 imo.
good luck whatever you decide.
ENGY's Tree is Shaking...
Well, its not moving much...but i see some effort to move it back and forth...WHAT A SPREAD
Hack Re ALMI...
Their IR firm is Investor Relationship Network...irnonline.com (or close)...I'd check to see if its being promoted.
GM Place Re ENGY...
The fact that ENGY's technical picture appears as it does in the absence of good news and no promotion...well I consider it an outstanding indication.
If a stock is being promoted either with lots of great press or an IR campaign...well I expect the Technical picture to look bullish. ENGY's most recent bit of news was that the financials will be late.
I'm certain that the late financials would almost definitely have worried some shareholders sufficiently to sell. But if you want to buy low you need others willing to sell low.
Its all a house of mirrors in my opinion...here's hoping I've filtered it and am looking at the true picture.
I don't think its the MMs GM...re ENGY
They're just agents working for dah big boys as far as I'm concerned. Rushing in and snapping up shares draws attention in my opinion...not to mention competition.
Without news or promotion, and with financials being late...if someone or someones are in fact bullish and looking to accumulate, probably best to sit back and nibble rather than gorge imo.
ENGY just considating on low volume imo...
With no news or promotion ENGY has made a significant move in recent weeks. I'm of the opinion that it is being accumulated, but that's merely opinion.
Financials are late, FUD factor means buyers can be patient in my opinion.
ENGY...Just waiting for some Volume...
Then imo...breakout time Still no news, so I doubt buyers have alot of competition.
ENGY is looking good imo czech...
Financials are late, and there's no press or promotion so I think its understanable why some might be nervous and selling. Regardless there seems to be more than enough buying demand to soak up whatever shares are being sold....on balance when volume is higher the PPS reacts nicely.
Capt. Nemo ENGY's Web site says 'unavailable'...
Perhaps there's something in the works...I don't know. But you never get hurt taking a profit, congrats.
http://www.enviro-energycorp.com
JP Getty, when asked how he got so rich once answered:
"I always got out too soon..." or so I've been told.
I'm holding ENGY right now, with a nice low average. There's been no news/hype/promotion that I've been able to see. I'm a speculative investor...no assurances, and very real potential for loss...
But what the heck...I kinda like that the most frequent poster to I-Hub's ENGY forum was (is???) seriously down on the stock, it warms my contrarian heart.
You still watching jmhollen?
Any thoughts as to why ENGY's website is unavailable? Given your historical understanding of the company I thought maybe you could shed some light.
omni ENGY's Website 'Currently Unavailable'...
Precursor to news possibly? Frankly I don't know one way or another, but I'll be watching it close.
That does look interesting hack...
I'm putting it on the radar right now, thanks very much. Not unusual to see a dip after big volume like that imo...consolidation probably...
Anything else to tell about it? Any dillutive filings? Any news and or promotion going on?
TIA
ledrog
(I had to merge my RB and Yahoo IDs because someone took ledrog to bash another stock I own here)....
Any thoughts on ENGY's chart?
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=ENGY,uu[w,a]dallyyay[dc][pb32!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,...
(sorry don't know how, or if I can paste the actual chart in, I'm not a paid member)...
FWIW I still haven't seen any press or promotion...not even a mention in my hotstockchat.com email which I read to see if any of my stocks are drawing attention.
Any thought John???
Alot more volume lately...and an improving PPS. Any ideas what could be driving demand?
ENGY's Move...Happening on No News...
Unless you consider a notification of late filing 'news'....
Thanks Locus...
I can't believe they don't have it fixed yet. I won't sign up with wsc though...I have too many memberships on too many sites, and I look at less than 1/2 of them now.
E*Trade's letter that was posted was such *%/#. I've used market orders before on OTC stocks with no worries. MMs aren't going to pass up orders from large firms imo...if they do, with time being $$$ brokers like E*Trade would probably starting go elsewhere to MMs that'll fill.
What a load of garbage eom
E*Trade not working...
I'm using otcbb.com now, 15 minutes delayed is still more current than Etrade right now:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/quotes.asp?Quotes=engy
No News On ENGY still...
But the PPS seems to keep moving up