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biopa@ This is no different from North Korea. All the judges have Immunity (they can/could be corrupt as hell - nobody can touch them).
What kind of democracy is that?
You could fear that this io-io poster (could be a judge) is actually right - about his crying about vicious attacks on Judge DU - being the reason for CAFC to just 'ignore the facts of the case (briefs - orals) all together - to Learn 'These Peasants' defending Amarin - who Rules in the USA.
The Judges seemingly don't give a damn that this completely wrong ruling moved +6 billion dollars in the market - ruining thousands of honest investors - who had bought into the small Bio company.
Marjac@ Living in the "Free Western World" - most of us generally believe in that honesty and fairness - at the end of the day - will Win.
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Truth is - that is not at all the reality. There's every level of lobbyism (corruption) in just about 'everything' of importance (like getting a job - investment (insider knowledge) manipulation of all sorts politically etc.
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When 'you have settled somewhat down' (if that is possible for you) - have a look on the story of this lady.
At first you tend to think - this can not be the truth she's telling - but after something like this' - Nevada ruling killing Amarin in US market (moving +6 billion dollars in the market) - trust in authorities has expired.
https://videos.files.wordpress.com/r9YNYzOr/www.vdyoutube.com-plandemic-documentary-the-hidden-agenda-behind-covid-19_dvd.mp4
The Book (look a number of ratings - many educated people believes/supports this lady):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S5H6T4Q?ref_=k4w_oembed_7WzQZFZNHDkUMx&tag=kpembed-20&linkCode=kpd
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If no En Banc - here is a suggestion (T has to win):
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158766567
marjac@ If En Banc is also denied - this means FULL WAR in every way possible on these institution's - for as long as it takes.
We need to find an author/honest journalist to start on writing a book on 'sloppiness' (the nice version) - of US Justice systems - not being able to Judge/Understand - these complicated Science related cases. With Amarin case against generics - as the starting point. Wont be difficult to find other cases - equally unjust to fill the book.
And contact every News related organization (social media) every politician on the subject.
Thanks ! My son send it to me - and yes it puts a completely new dimension to the classic song :)
To make Quite Sure - That JT and Amarin 'Are Awake' - and fighting for Justice to be Restored - on the Drug that have cost so many years of research - and hundred of millions of dollars in trials !
Legendary song in new POWER Setup (in memory of org. performer):
Lemm@ Gozips used - 'Sound of Science' (silence) as an analogy for JT and Amarin's - 'Ever Silence' during latest months.
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This made me think of the version below. If this cant 'Break Through' to Amarin - Nothing Can.
Fabulous version of this timeless song :)
A 'real doctor' assessment of Vascepa value - long video on YouTube:
If already linked here no harm done. But surely there are things in this video - that will raise some eyebrows. Eg. the Dr. keeps talking about Bin Pharma referring to Vascepa. Amarin = BP - not really:
cir@ Not really. But it does give you the right 'To walk around like the Emperor without clothes' - with nose in the air on your toes :)
I'm not a member - or anything close :)
postes@ A bit funny. Remember Baker Brothers sold value of 7 bill af Amarin at some point 2019 - and bought IFRX instead. This is a small German Bio company with no product on the market - still in trials.
Copying BB's I bought a bit into the company and have therefore followed development there. And to your point (and Cbb's) on using Covid for promotion - this little company have been super active - even though - 'my non pro. impression' - is that their (sometime in the future product) - is no where near Vascepa in relevant defence of fighting Covid long run :)
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IFRX?p=IFRX
(out of good order - I'm no longer in IFRX)
Jasbg
Downtown@ That's true my friend. I know you from here long enough to know that you are a real 'positive and decent person' - which are most 'big investors' in Amarin - I have found.
This was never a 'gamblers stock' - it was 100% the opposite - which is also why this disaster ruling came as a chock to everybody. Even 90% of analysts were Chocked by this ruling 'killing the brand of Amarin' in USA.
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To find something 'Positive' most analyst's actually have the take on AMRN more than double of the SP right now - many has +$20:
https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=AMRN - scroll down to see valuations.
Jasbg
Downtown@ Given the Amarin history since R-I 2018 - Will believe in 'ACTION' from Amarin when I see It - not before Then :)
I truly hope someone (new owner) is telling him to relax on the press and focus on getting a deal done.
BB@ This is a very STRONG post:
When you have false facts presented as truth and hid by cropped tables you have a court being defrauded ONLY if those false facts are used by the Court to rule. In our circumstances this was precisely the case. Not only did Judge Du transcribed the copied table she transcribed the literal falsity.
cir@ Your right. At some point 'hopefully Soon' - Amarin has to start being a whole lot more VISSIBLE to the Market (supporting shareholders).
OT@ Growing up Elvis was God for me' and half my generation.
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Today I really like this guys version of Elvis :)
Louie@ LOL - say hello to your cats for me :)
double post - mods please delete !
Louie@ Mensa'- females with brains scares me :)
But thanks for your Amicus contribution.
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At some point we need to know 'the complete team' behind the A brief - how many were actually involved ?
Jasbg
io@ Dont know who you are (haven't been here ½ a year) and then pops up on day of Amicus brief - and start screaming and yelling about the hurt feelings of Judge Du - because of Marjac's complaints.
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This about the worst kind of BS Cr** i have ever seen on this board.
You crying about the hurt feelings of a female judge that moved +6 billion dollars in the market - by her completely wrong ruling.
Are you also Crying over the thousands of honest investors that lost their future pension (fortunes) on this little lady's bad ruling (lack of insight in science). Thousands that lost their dream on the marts 30. 2020 on the ruling that every expert on the subject said could never happen.
It was those people Marjac was trying to defend in whatever possible correct juridical way possible. And he's a Hero around here for that.
And you argue that CAFC rules on 'hurt feelings of district Judges'.
If that is the Case - then why have these institutions at all - it's a complete farce (waist of time and effort) - only steeling money from the US tax payers.
Jasbg
cir@ And give the dogs a luxury bone' - when finished the 18 Copies :)
Then everyone is happy - for now :)
flubber@ Exactly - Thanks ! - I just found the site minutes ago
And - Yes' - they are a classic example of 'using fake science' to support their "Non Profit" business.
Jasbg
marjac@ To your point the "scientific articles" on site under here - is heavy proof of your argument :)
https://goedomega3.com/
Of cause your thinking here mostly on the "scientist" - for sale/you can buy - to support your case in the courtrooms.
Found it. I'm not a member (no search) - but then tried searching Google:
'iHub AMRN - Non Profit my a**' - and there it was. Impressive Google !!
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158547922
I was looking for a site promoting Omega 3 fish oil generally (EPA - DPA) that was debated here some weeks ago - because of some very 'bad science reports' on especially DPA influence in relation to CDV.
And I fell upon this - rather big reaching article on OTC Omega 3 fish oils.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/heart-and-lungs/minimal-evidence-show-omega-3-prevents-heart-disease/
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Does anyone remember the name of the site "Non Profit" - very much promoting fish oils generally - that were debated here recently ?
Jasbg
Rose@ Are we talking about this stock ?
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/REGN?p=REGN
It's expensive forehand - but it did get a nice boost from the presidents praising it (which I feel as him being truthful) that how he experienced the progression :)
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I was mostly joking about the stock - expecting it to 'jump big' on T's very praising words.
OT: This is probably the best and most effective commercial that ever hit the USA - REGENERON - why didn't I buy in to that company :)
A MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT! pic.twitter.com/uhLIcknAjT
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2020
BB@ Congrats to you and Marjac - for finishing a job - you sat yourself out To Do' - that is an achievement in itself' in this very complex Law stuff.
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Even if the CAFC 'again' kicks us in the ba**s (sorry Louie and others) next week - we still have your work to 'carry on' the process of Justice.
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A bit depressed last night - i made this 'very BB like post - everything to win style' (something to do - if CAFC fails us again) :)
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https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158766567
Jasbg
PS. Hope you relax tonight an 'enjoy your moment'. Important to 'take in' whatever positive in the very troubled year of 2020.
meo@ Does that look a bit like Louie' to you also :)
Marjac@ To me as a layman - your reasoning regarding the Markman article - sound perfectly sensible. No reason to put something in there - that experts - say will destroy your entire case - forehand :)
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The Markman article actually hit me also yesterday - in calling out very small chances of success in the En Banc - so I understand very well that you reacted on it as well.
io@ What a coincidence - you just happen to start your harsh critic of Marjac - on the day of his Amicus brief.
You haven't been here since marts 9. 2020 - now suddenly you are reacting like a hurt Lion - attacking everything and everyone.
Not being here for ½ a year - What is you 'REAL Interest' turning up now ?
That is just great. How much weight did Marjac and BB loose during this.
Hopefully they are in good shape and spirit still :)
Thanks to everyone involved in the Amicus project - Marjac especially.
io-io@ You will have to hope that Judges in the second highest court in USA is beyond what is written on social media.
As DTG says 'that is BS' !
Louie@ You yanks are a bit to wild' for us boring Scandinavians :)
Monk@ Thanks - for incurring words. Good to hear that V really helps you - on the back of some hard times fighting health problems.
And yes - the day will Come' for Amarin and shareholders - for sure :)
Jasbg
Monk@ I just realized - I'm starting to sound like dm***er - I think I better go shoot myself (only I don't own a gun like all the wild US guys).
Are having a bad night - where the many hits from AMRN earlier - is running in the back of the head.
Lets hope I'm so very wrong and SP will keep going North. Actually I use to be wrong a lot - so odd's not so bad for positive development :)
Monk@ This is the third legal decision we are waiting for since spring of 2020.
Every time there is a built up of hope (cause we are all involved - and anything but neutral).
And even the chances 'everyone knows' are slim - with all the talk of the Amicus letter and the collecting of money (which I supported) I see it happening again - even odds this time are very bad.
So if refusal of En Banc - hits the markets as the prior two lost cases - Question is to what extent the reaction (where we are there is not that much to fall from) - but I would expect SP to go back somewhere around $4.
You can then hope It will start rising slowly again as before but that's another story.
Everybody agreed with a possible reversal on Appeal September 2. the SP would have soon been close to $20 again.
As it is now (company keeping everyone in the dark) $4 - $7 for the next months at best - if nothing drastic changes (as eg. unexpected En Banc granted).
louie@ Sorry it was you with 'the weird sounds' :)
Of Coase he's right - the rise is good. But it is the BIG UNAVOIDABLE LEGAL monster creeping in on us I Fear. And chances to avoid it is close to zero - according to Markman.
Have to admit - that Markman article - did put me back in reality tonight. And reality with AMRN and Amarin - is usually not good for more than a few weeks at a time.
BB@ Maybe not the most diplomatic letter I have ever read - but meaning is clear - which is what matters :)
Lets hope JT gets the message - and set legal team in motion !
Sorry Marjac - BB: Correction to plan B or C or D
Not Ambitus - but Amicus letter :)
ralp@ As usual for what has happened to Amarin since September 2018 - the timing is not the best.
I'm pretty convinced your President rather 'tied up' right now - so I guess we have to wait till after election - and hope he's wins again (which i personally think there a 'better chance' than our En Banc - that he will do).
5 days after that we start working on help from the WH. BB organizing making a YouTube video - with inputs from the brightest minds here (and here the big work by Marjac on the Ambitus letter could/can - come into play (if En Banc fails). We just have to hope that T wins again - then this surely is worth a try :)
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
We send the carefully worked out YouTube video (HK - JL on the science - Marjac - Eight on the Law stuff - and possible other of the many bright minds here contribution).
Then when we know Video correct uploaded (testet of the board - corrections made for possibly improvements).
And on second thought the whole damn story of Amarins torments from the start - and the brilliant lifesaving drug (like the adventure of H.C Andersen's 'The ugly Duckling') that came out on the other side in September R-I 2018.
Ideally the YouTube video (might be in more parts 1.2.3.) should make every WH member say to himself - 'I have to take this drug' (and he - she - should - we all know that to be true here).
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Got a little carried away here - but there could be something to work with - even after an unfortunate EN Banc refusal.
And It would be an 'everything to win' situation. But 'the story cut in the right fashion - Vascepa is an adventure - in itself - with the enormous potential for helping defeat far to early CDV deaths - the biggest killer of all WW.
Jasbg
PS. When the YouTube 'Super presentation of Vascepa and Amarin are ready - on a given decided day - everybody from the board tweets - the WH - to please see the linked YouTube video - and take it to Potus and his Legal advisers - to hopefully help secure Vascepa for the American population for the long-term future. Just have to hope he wins - or the plan is no good :)
zman@ I'm no legal expert - but I don't see this case going to the Supreme Court. There is between 5.000 and 6.000 patent cases in the USA every year.
I'm afraid that in the big picture of things - this is sadly a rather banal case - looking from the High Courts of your big country.
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If we 'lose again' (3rd time) in En Banc - I actually think there would/will be a bigger chance to find help in the WH - if T wins in November.
As a big supporter of your president I have sent several tweets to the WH over the T period - and my impression is' that it is actually possible to 'get a message through' if you have a good case. Look at Dr. Zelenco - he got through.
But Ok admit - It's probably most the desperate thinking - of where to go with this - if the 2nd largest Court in US Law system - rejects it completely again.
http://talksense.dk/category/trump