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exactly
hope we don't see to many of them in the future
looks like they're doing a round up 1 month later. sheesh
came from "AGN associates & stock transfer services" so they keeping all that money to convert certs and cd's in the family.
I'm glad I got certs and cd's, now its my choice, there will be no fight
actually, if you look at that letter of transmittal "processing fee" its gonna cost you $25 to cancel and $25 to issue you new. $50 per cert, $50 per cd. lol. mine gonna start that first fire this winter.
I think they already tricked us gabkok
I hear ya giff, I think we chit out of luck on this one but who knows, yo, don't order them certs in more than 1 account that has the EXACT same name on it.
certs have taken 3 wks to get with tdamtd in the past
ok giff, let us know
it also said this, last sentence
If the Board still believes that the reverse stock split is in the best interests of the Company and its stockholders, the Company will file the Certificate of Amendment with the Secretary of State of the State of Nevada at such time as the Board has determined the appropriate effective time for such split, but in no event earlier than twenty (20) calendar days following the mailing of this Information Statement to the stockholders of the Company. The reverse stock split will become effective on the date of filing the amendment (the "Effective Date"). Beginning on the Effective Date, each certificate representing Old Shares will be deemed for all corporate purposes to evidence ownership of New Shares.
it did say this which indirectly implies that you would need certs. the wording here comes from a "letter of transmittal" which you would get only if you had certs
On the date that this Certificate of Amendment is filed with the Secretary of State of the State of Nevada (the "Effective Date"), every one-hundred (100) shares of common stock, par value $.00015 per share (the "Common Stock"), of the Corporation issued and outstanding at the close of business on the Effective Date (the "Old Shares") will automatically be converted into one (1) share of Common Stock (the "New Shares") of the Corporation. No fractional shares will be issued and, in lieu thereof, each holder of Common Stock whose aggregate number of shares of Old Shares held in one name or account immediately prior to the Effective Date are fewer than ten-thousand (10,000) shares shall receive one-hundred (100) full shares of New Shares in exchange for such Old Shares.
I asked TA if I ordered certs for HBDY now if I would be entitled to the round up. she said NO, you had to have certs for HYBY before the xdate
ok, I get it, they do what ever you tell them, to avoid a conflict, cause you know so much, us peeons ain't so lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
never forget it
gdog, how many cats you killed with the golf club lately
ok, forgtit, we,ll see who gets shares
I've called the TA, can you tell me why they don't show me as a shareholder, but they do show TDAMTD as a shareholder?
who's your broker joby, call em ask em how they treat multiple trades in "abcd" stock. it s not just round ups , its every trade in 1 stock with mutiple buyers.
I agree , I think its screwed up, but that is the way they do it and I don't usually buy any of these roundups when they mention certs because I know I am not gonna get them from TDAMTD
I'm not saying you can't order your own cert, I've done it. Let me give you an example of how AMTD now TDAMTD has operated.I can only speak for TDAMTD but I suspect that other online brokers do the same.
OK. 10 people buy 501 shares of MXES through TDAMTD. tdamtd lumps them all together and requests 5010 shares from the TA or DTC, where ever they get them from. tdamtd is issued a cert in "streeet name" for 5010 shares. they pass out the 501 shares to there 10 peop that bot. at this point I am not a scert holder. tdamtd is the cert holder, I am a shareholder.now the 1-1000 rs happens as it always does first, us 10 peop get rs'd to a fraction (.5). tdamtd's cert ( in street name) gets rs'd to 5 shares. now the roundup comes. tdamtd cert of 5 shares now gets rounded up to 500 shares, so now they got 500 shares and 10 peop that are rexpecting 500 shares. they don't have them. you don't get em
now, if you want to request certs, fine, I wouldn't be doing it in multiple accounts that have the same EXACT name on them.
you got lucky
yup, I kmow, but as that turned out it was a mistake by the company that the TA said would never happen again. glad it worked out for everyone. I bot 500. that was safe
glad to see someone is reading this crap, only thing I see that happens to 500 shares is it gets rs'd 1-1000 to .5 shares. but then, do you really need certs?
how long is "all along" LOL. I can remember when every trade for one of these roundups could be accounted for in the chat I was in and that was usually less than 20 trades. when it went ovr 50 trades we began wondering if it was even gonna work. and then came NWMO. DOH!!
yep, got them others, don't think I'll get HBDY, at least according to the TA I'm not, next
call your freaking broker and ask
dang, all you gotta do is call your broker, ask em how they handle any trades in which there are more then 1 buyer. anybody get HBDY shares. doh!!!
exactly, and when the TA issues them new certs they issue them to the only cert holder they know and thats your broker. 500 shares. still not enough to pay them 100 peop that are expecting 500.
thats right and when your broker has a cert in streetname for 50,000 shares that gets rs'd 1-1000 to 50 shares and then rounded up to 500 shares. how they gonna give them 100 peop 500 shares each when all they got is 500 total?
we'll see, tdamtd lumps all buyers together, orders a total number of shares to cover everyone from TA, they get a cert in street name for the total amount and divy's them out to there people. at that point tdamtd is the cert holder not me, call the TA they won't know who the hell you are, but they will know tdamtd is a cert holder. tdamtd will get the roundup to 500 but it will not be enough to give the shares to all their peop. if you are buying through a full service broker you will be a cert holder and will get the roundup. if you are buying through a online discount broker, you are a shareholder, your broker is the cert holder. IMO
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hells bells, ain't gonna make no diff if you got 500, 501, 1000, 50,000. if you ain't got certs you ain't gonna get nothing IMO
sorry, my mistake, wasn't aware there could be a certificate out there with no name on it.
what difference would it make? - you request certs in multiple accounts with same name and now TA and company know. my guess, they add them together, rs you 1-1000, and give you 1 roundup to 500
MXES says cetificate holders
IMO, safe buy is 99
says less than 100, 1-99 will remain the same, list or def-14c doesn;t say what happens to 100
here ya go 14thPGA
15:58 7/30/2007 MERH Merilus, Inc. Common Stock MRHD Merilus, Inc. NEW Common Stock 1-20 R/S; Holders with 100 shares to 1,999 shares will receive no less than 100 shares. New symbol: MRHD **
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?mkt_ctg=OTCBB&d=07/27/2007
lol, it is tough to read, eyes get bugged out everytime I look at it
now that makes a whole dam bunch of sense, didn't even realize that, just always looked at dividend list for FS's