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I have both Microcrap and Alphatrade.
Again, Navvin, I ask, what is it that makes you think your buy at .0008 is a "sell" on either one?
And so, it begs the question... why do I have both Microcrap and AwfulTrade? Microcap is very expensive, and Alphatrade is cheaper, but not feature rich.
I have both because I've found I can't trust either one of them to be accurate and stable at all times. All week long, until today, MM's have been missing from MCT's L2. And MCT also has missed displaying ticker prints this week. And Alphatrade has frozen up on me twice this week (both of them randomly freeze up on occasion).
And therein lies the serious potential for INXR's real time L2 product offerings to fill the void. I'd love to replace both of them with an INXR product, and I plan to be active in providing informative suggestions to INXR to achieve both a higher level of stability, and to better meet my own needs for L2 for pinks/OTCBB. And for the folks who say, "Who needs it, I have Etrade?" well, I think Etrade sucks, and I know I'm not alone.
Finally, remember. For every buy, there is a seller. So the value of calling something a "buy" or a "sell" is negligible, IMO. Any speculation into how each trade occurs on an unsolicited pink sheet is just exactly that. Speculation.
why do you say it shows as a sell?
You hit the ask, you got filled. That's a buy.
A nice buy at that.
MURF... I don't want him to uptick here. I want us to take his shares on the cheap at .0008, so he doesn't mess with us later. He obviously wants out quickly, and doesn't seem to be concerned with price. It looks like he doesn't want to risk anyone stepping in front of him before he's done selling out. If he cared about the price he was selling at, he would have upticked already, IMO.
We'll see what happens.
No .0007's so far, tex.
yeah, exactly tex... Get what? Enough shares at .0007 to make any difference? I'm sure they'd be quite happy to give peanut-sized partials to 15 different people for the day. LOL.
MM's will *always* play their games with the share price this much, especially with the level of interest they're showing now.
Doesn't matter what the news is, or whether we get any at all.
The way we beat them is to disappoint them at every opportunity.
Guys, really, there are no .0007's that you're going to get, so what do you say we just finish taking MURF out once and for all before the MM's get wise and do it themselves and sell it back to us at flipper-dump low prices?
It's pretty obvious to me right now that retail buyers are in no position to expect .0007's anytime soon.
Just a suggestion, you can certainly choose to ignore me.
Here's what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing A LOT of institutional buying, and a LOT of big retail buying mixed in there.
I'm seeing maybe 1 or 2 MM's liquidating a long-time bagholder who probably bought a pile at .0001 a long time ago. For the past couple of days, we've seen probably 200M or more of these long bagholder shares go to newly interested institutional buyers, and smart longs who have been able to grab shares when they can in the tight spread. I believe we are seriously nearing the end of any major release of those .0001 long bagholder shares, which I believe are being liquidated by MURF.
Sprinkled in there are a few shares from weak hands that are getting shaken out because they don't see it the right way, IMO.
What this amounts to is a great buying opportunity for retail buyers who are lucky enough to catch anything they can, even while they try to hit the ask. The more retail can keep these shares from falling into the hands of the MM's and institutional buyers, the faster this will run, and IMO, it WILL RUN HUGE for those that are patient enough and smart enough to beat the institutional MM's and big $ retail at their own game.
The best way to beat them, is to not let them get any shares, and to hold onto the ones you already have. MM's can't play the game effectively if retail doesn't let them get their shares. MM's play a short term game, which only works if they have short term shares to play with. The more we divert the flow of short term shares from them to a long-term share base, the harder they will try to scare people. Recognize this, and don't let them win.
This game is almost entirely MM's playing against each other right now, especially the new MM's on board in the past week, jockeying for a position in the big run. Their trouble will come from the fact that most retail buyers are already hugely ahead of the game. We have the major head start, in spite of some of the higher cost averages we might have. I believe that the MM's are well aware of this fact, and that's why they're playing it so hard. At this point, and I'm sure everyone will agree, there just isn't enough of a predictable spread for anyone to try to flip to average down, especially since you'd be more than likely only giving the MM's what they want. Competition is fierce on the bid, and the MM's are keeping it that way...for obvious reasons. Sure, they might walk it down to try to scare people. But sooner or later, and I predict sooner, they (and we) are going to have to pay up and finish taking MURF out. We've seen this price action before already, a couple of times, on a smaller scale, when there were less institutional buyers on the bid. And each time, they were forced to walk it back up to achieve any volume, which is also how they make $, especially since there's hardly any spread right now.
The low volume is good. Keep the retail volume at the ask if you expect to accumulate any shares, and that giant lineup of MM's on the bid will be starved soon enough, and any perceived discomfort will surely be extremely temporary.
Of course, there's the possibility that MURF and BAND are trying to dig giant short positions. At this point, I don't think they're that stupid to try that. Some MM's might have tried that before, like we suspect VNDM, so they'll be screwed too, to our benefit. However, they're trying every other trick in the book, including perhaps even trying to skew everyone's charts yesterday. The only problem for them is, there really aren't that many more tricks they can play.
Not trying to create any MM conspiracy theories. I don't think the MM's are conspiring to work together at all. They seem to be behaving more like highly competitive hungry investors that have a little extra power. MM's are people, like me and you. Some are smart, and some are not so smart. And some are smart, but late to the game, with the tables tipped in our favor. Let's not let them use that power. We have power too, and you *are* seeing it already in action. Let's keep it together, folks. I think we have a serious winner.
My opinions are just that. You formulate your own.
Long on INXR.
-m0m0mey0
Given the fact that, in the past 2 days, we've seen 3 new MM's join us... MM's that are mostly, if not entirely, typically OTCBB MM's, and we've seen at least 2 of those MM's scooping up shares from weak hands like no tomorrow, I just don't see where anyone can doubt a pending move to the OTCBB. In fact, quite realistically, I see this move to the OTCBB coming very soon.
Also, if you look at the MM's BAND and MURF, they are typically most involved in tech and telecom stocks. INXR fits right into that.
If you're here to cause any kind of FUD on that topic, I can assure you that you'll get nowhere with that line of reasoning... or lack thereof.
Added 2M more today, at the ask. No regrets.
MM's are getting those .0009's and loving it.
Someone's getting a lucky break on the sucker shake.
Soak 'em up guys.
Got my .001's.
2.5B O/S = Scare tactic, lying agenda
We've been hearing 1B in the float for a long time now.
WECK, on the other hand, has been buying a lot of shares very recently. I suspect that the float is even smaller than 1B, and is held by some strong hands.
Looking great to date. Psyched for the next chapter on Monday.
More than 10% of the float in 30 minutes. Sweet.
VNDM digging himself a bigger hole. Sweet.
This is the last time I'm going to speak on this topic, I hope.
WECK is obviously an institutional MM.
I've backed up my statements with empirical evidence that WECK is buying on behalf of an institutional investor(s). If it's one investor, then that investor is now an insider, and has been for quite some time. I suspect that it is a single important investor and that it is probably the company themselves. It also may be several of the company's principles buying through WECK, who knows for sure.
If you don't have L2 for pinks, and you haven't been watching the L2 for INXR for the past 3 months, then I just don't think you have any reason to patently disbelieve what I'm suggesting. It seems rather black and white to me.
This is an unsolicited pink sheet currently. I'm sure we'll see full disclosure of insider's positions once they uplist.
There is no reason to assume that WECK would no longer be able to buy and sell INXR on the OTCBB after uplisting, and I just don't see what bearing this has on anything, ever.
Again, I'm not suggesting WECK is keeping inventory on an unsolicited pink sheet. I'm suggesting somebody is using WECK to purchase a large portion of the float. Those are the facts.
And for the record, for at least the last month, every single day WECK has been on the L2 for at least some portion of the day.
WECK .0008 x .0019.
Something's up.
Also, it looks like microCRAPtrade finally fixed the L2 just now.
I have 7 MM's on the bid and ask now.
Neither Alphatrade nor microcaptrade is showing BRGE on L2. We already know that Microcaptrade is screwy today.... This morning, at 10:45, he closed out on the ask. That's all I've seen of that MM.
Do I really think he's maintaining an inventory of 250M shares?
I say, 250M or more. I haven't seen any real sign of WECK selling significant quantities, and we know for a fact that 310M shares were traded from Jan 2006 through Jan 2007. If he's not maintaining an inventory (that is to say, buying on behalf of his client), then I don't know what you could possibly think WECK is doing with them.
I'll say it again, the #'s from the TA in no way reflect the seriously reduced size of the float.
Added 500K this morning at .0055 too.
Great things to come, IMO.
READ THIS: WECK is there.
Microcaptrade is screwed up, and not displaying all MM's for INXR. Still camped out at .0007 scooping up the cheapies from what I see on Alphatrade L2.
Speaking of which, according to the monthly share count for 2006 and 2007 so far, WECK has traded 310M shares.
Now, consider where WECK has been sitting the majority of the time.... On the BID, right? Let's say for argument's sake, that 80% of WECK's transactions were BUYS (I think the % is even higher), then WECK owns about 250M shares. That's not counting shares he snagged yesterday and today, and again, that's assuming 20% of the time, WECK has been selling (something we have yet to see in quantity). That makes WECK an insider by nature of such a high % of share ownership. So take that # right off the top of any #'s we've already been given for the float!
The float is indeed seriously tight on this bad boy. Get ready for the rewards... They're coming.
WECK=sponge
See that? VNDM reduced his ask size without really selling anything. With the .001's starting to print, maybe he's starting to figure out that he shouldn't be digging himself a bigger hole.
VNDM consistently trying to scare people into selling, probably so he can cover. Guys, VNDM traded 132M shares (out of nowhere, in Jan 2007. He traded NO shares in all of 2006.)
We already know that VNDM does not represent anyone at the company.
The majority of the time, VNDM has been selling, and not buying. So the majority of those 132M shares are sells.
It couldn't be more obvious to me that he is short BIGTIME.
MM's do not have to post sizes on the L2. IMO, The only reason he would be posting those sizes, is to scare people into selling so that he can short more and hopefully cover his shorts.
I agree with TradeSwapper's assessment. VNDM is hurting bigtime.
Don't let him cover. In fact, if you help him dig an even deeper hole, by buying his short shares, and not letting him cover, the next run we get will be that much bigger when he scrambles to buy back in. Unless VNDM bought giant stacks of shares back before 2005 that he's trying to sell now, he's gotta be short.
That's the way I see it. YMMV. GLTA.
LONG on INXR. Not selling anytime soon.
20 period bollies=bogus TA
Yes, that's right, I said it.
Totally bogus. I've seen Dart talk about it, and I've see dean77 talk about it. And other than our esteemed poster Tradeswapper, who has already made an excellent post on the topic of TA, I see a lot of people blindly following other people's TA, without question.
And now, my 2 cents.
First of all, most of the TA indicators out there are designed to be effective for stocks that don't move up and down in 10-30% increments on daily charts. Therefore, most (not all) should be taken with a serious grain of salt. TA is far more effective on dollar stocks than it is on .000x stocks.
Secondly, I've found that every TA indicator has an optimal period/viewing timeframe as it relates to the price action of any given stock. For instance, CCI (Commodity Channel Index) is designed to be used in timeframes of 1/3 of a complete PPS cycle from low-low, or high-high. Other indicators have their optimal timeframes/periods as well. ***There is no one size fits all timeframe/period that works for all indicators.***
Now, most indicators and signalling systems are *trailing* indicators. That is, they only display certain elements describing PPS action after the fact, and their value in predicting price action in the future varies, from totally useless, to somewhat useful.
There are some indicators that are more *leading* than others. In other words, some give earlier signals than others, and some are more accurate in their earlier signals than others. For instance, everyone always touts the 20MA crossing above the 50MA as a golden cross. The indicators I personally use (I'm choosing not to divulge them today, but they have something to do with CCI) are very similar to them, but are far more leading and accurate than 20x50MA.
Case in point. Bollies, as they are being spoken about here, are not at all leading indicators. Purely trailing. Furthermore, they are only very vague and inaccurate measures of support and resistance. They're good for predicting volatility, but IMO, that's about where it ends. And they're only good for predicting volatility *when properly matched to the timeframe/period and price action of an individual stock*. A 20 period bollinger band being used to determine *anything* on a triple-sub stock that just recently came off the bottom and made some extremely volative moves percentage-wise over a short period of time *is not in any way a useful indicator*. If you can't sell a stock at .0000001, and that same stock would likely NEVER go there, then having a lower bollie go all the way down there because of a lack of consideration for the kind of stock it is, provides no accurate value whatsoever. All this speculation about waiting for the lower band of a 20-bollie to come up is ridiculous. I ask anyone who believes otherwise to justify specifically why they chose the number 20 for their period. And if the only answer you can come up with is "because that's what I always use, and my charts are the best" then your opinions are not in any way qualified.
Finally, everyone here should note the fact that it's really easy to put up a big chart full of a billion indicators with shifting timeframes/periods on every iteration, and paint a scenario where an orange always looks like a basketball. After all, they're both orange, right? NOT. And everyone should also keep in mind that just as much as some think charts predict price action, price action is also largely a self-fulfilling prophesy based on what the charts look like to begin with. For instance, people that see a gap, and see the PPS heading down to fill the gap, will sell above the gap because they "know the gap will be filled." And what happens when they sell for that reason? The gap fills. Again, a self-fulfilling prophesy that has little predictive merit on the basis of mathematics, but rather on the basis of trading psychology.
Please, give this bogus 20-bollie lower band BS a rest. It's worthless. Try bollie (10,2) instead. I think you'll find it far more useful down here in sub-penny land. Just keep in mind exactly what it's useful for. Everyone is best served not adhering to anyone's technical analysis but their own.
Generically speaking, beware the agenda of the popular chartist.
LONG ON INXR, not selling anytime soon.
There was quite a bit of great information in the IBOX before, but now that the cat is out of the bag, I'm guessing lowman decided it was time for an overhaul. NVMG is quite a solid company from the DD I've done, and I'm sure everyone here who is not familiar will be impressed by their oil production prospects, which include many oil well leases in the largest oil reserves in North America. Also, as you'll see their general ethics as they relate to the progress of the Native American culture in the region, and their outlook towards renewable energy, are second to none, IMO.
Lots more to come from NVMG. This is just the beginning.
Get ready.
NVMG. 142M? Ridiculously low float for a .00xx stock.
Moves super easy.
NVMG. Ridiculously low float for a .00xx stock.
Moves super easy.
NVMG float is tighter than a frog's ______
Last time it ran from here it was a 8 bagger.
Spartan Securities.
MICA is the MM.
I-HUB = Snail with salt.
All this talk about a gap to be filled is a bit overblown.
The last print on Friday was a mirror trade .0009/.001.
The only reason it looks like a .0002 gap on the chart is because the MM's painted it that way with the order they printed the mirror trade. That's it. Otherwise, I think it's a negligable gap that would simply be filled in the course of the normal swing channel we're in.
IMO, INXR is trading in a seriously narrow pattern, tightly controlled by MM's. They're only giving shares to retail when they absolutely have to. Makes it difficult to accumulate, but they're not going to stop me.
Bottom line, if you really want in, you're going to have to be a little more agressive than the MM's. In the end, I'm confident we will beat them at their game. Just be wary of all the games the MM's are playing with hiding bids, and consider the reasons why the MM's feel compelled to play these games.
Had a buy order in at .0009. *just got filled now*.
For 10 minutes, I was "hammering the ask" so to speak, and got *nothing*.
The MM games continue.
Ambiguous post... euromiljoen. clarification:
Lowtrade's analysis was from Friday. He was correct, and though the uptrend was confirmed by Friday's bullish close, we needed just a tad more confirmation, and that's what made today such a critical day.
From today's action, we got that extra confirmation, plus a little bonus... an even greater sign of strength. Today's close was exactly what you'd expect to see from a stock that is consolidated and ready to run further from a new and solid base, IMO.
Bill Panetta said it perfectly... Important today for INXR. I think it passed the test.
Hi Biz.
Not hiding. HOLDING.
WEEEEEEEEEE.
Each and every stock trades differently, and has it's own mojo.
Your statement seems to imply that the same can be said for every stock that trades around .01. or maybe every stock that trades from .80-1.30. Nonsense.
I wouldn't read too much into any of the afterhours settling.
Actually, from what I can tell, the 36M shares at .0011 @ 16:02:48 were sold to NITE, who immediately backed off the bid to .0009 at the same time.
If I had to guess, I'd say it was short covering, and I don't think VNDM was involved in that transaction.
I also don't think VNDM has any relation to iFinix, and therefore I stand behind my previous statements that I see no dilution.
Needless to say, MM's post after-hours prints in order to settle up their day. Happens all the time.
It could also just as easily be a large order that took all day to fill, and didn't print until close.
OT: Example of dilution (PATENTLY NOT INXR)
Look at CHNW. See who is on the Ask? VFIN. VFIN is a well known wholesaler/agent of dilution. I watched CHNW today, briefly, and saw all I need to see to know to stay out of it.
And VFIN doesn't move off the ask. EQBM, SLWF, and a whole host of other symbols, have this same VFIN-on-the-ask dilution.
There are other MM's besides VFIN that also known to dilute the sharepool on behalf of companies, but none of the known ones are on INXR.
The wholesale MM that is selling or buying shares on behalf of the company is also known as "the ax". In our case on INXR, it's WECK. You'll note that WECK is not sitting on the ask dumping shares. Rather, WECK is not only supporting the bid, but buying huge blocks of shares that the weak have been dumping. Most of the time, he's not getting anything, because people are being smart and not selling INXR shares for peanuts. In fact, all of the actions that I've seen WECK take so far suggests a company *buyback* of shares, IMO.
Companies that dilute usually put out exciting PR's, only to dump millions of shares at the ask... see the above examples.
Either way, WECK is *smart* money, and has not proven to be any kind of agent of dilution on INXR whatsoever.
INXR.... locked and loaded. GO INXR!
I see absolutely NO dilution whatsoever.
OK guys, Enough with the chauvenism for today.
Some of the best traders I know are women, and some of the most financially irresponsible people I know are men.
It goes both ways.
"You cannot execute an after hours trade on this stock."
MM's can definitely start trading the issues they represent at 8am EST with other MM's. Don't know about after hours.