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Great work RAF
It makes an astounding illustration of how appalling is the failure of Amarin to build / appoint the PR department/ a PR director / and a leading edge PR firm to represent the company to the media in the global market for this drug
What in Gods name are Amarin doing??
A simply gigantic and catastrophic failure of management for which there is no justifiable excuse
The company spends multiple millions on a sales force / advertising yet does not have any of the above in place
Unbelievable !!!
Alm
Send to Amarin ... they should be doing this job
Well done
Alm
Marjac /Study- I have listened also - the oral hearing oddly did not seem to have the period focus as the announced in the decision as to the rehearing - the re hearing announcement focus seemed to be the extent of damages requiring reduction because infringement might not have applied across the whole period of time
The oral hearing did not appear to have this focus but rather on whether the jury had before it evidence which supported infringement -a point returned to repeatedly by Judge Moore and GSK counsel in the affirmative
Thus I find myself somewhat confused as to the rehearing purpose
Takeaway was that GSK case appeared as strong as ever and hard to see how the outcome will alter - perhaps Newman wants to further counter Prosts dissent -as evidenced by her intervention as to protection for old drug innovation studies - they won’t happen unless patent protected and it is vital to the nations health that such innovations are rewarded -not prostituted by generics
Amarins action against Hikma and health net is multi purpose - get this into a jury trial and The defendants are in a lottery ...they could easily loose big time and treble damages apply -delay of years is achieved without other generics entering and insurers fearing they will be litigated against
There is much here to encourage long shareholders in Amarin and Marjac et al are about to open a huge can of worms in Rule 60
The Amarin Wars continue and are opening up on different fronts -
Alm
Marjac
Your closing certainly nailed that one !!! Rule 60 will be even better !!
Alm
Marjac
A second year option at my university was criminology ... in my day the lecturer used to roll call the students present ... each lecture in criminology began in this way ...but then the lecture theatre would very very quietly begin to empty ... our lecturer was blind ... there were few left at the end of the lecture
I cringe to think now of such appallingly disrespectful behaviour ....
Alm
Marjac
On your way through this Rule 60 Herculean task ... have you come across successful Rule 60 cases .... that you can direct us to for reading around the subject
As to rewards to the team - which I know you all do not seek ....we are already forever in your debt ..
Let us all hope for your success and that you make legal history in this case
Invests suggestion will be taken up by many including me ....I await reading your Rule 60 documentation with grateful anticipation
Alm
Marjac
And what you say leaves one incredulous as to why Amarin have not driven a Rule 60 challenge ....
Whilst I could see this might self expose Amarin and its lawyers to -put mildly- criticism -achieving success through Rule 60 resets the Amarin course
I am sure management and it’s lawyers in the wake of such a success could/would wriggle out of any such difficulty given the general euphoria that would ensue
Any idea why they have not taken up the Rule 60 gauntlet?? Have you been able to enter into a discourse with Amarin /Fish as to the proposed shareholder action ?? Surely they would have wished to make some observation /express a view
Alm
Todd ... hard to understand Amarin not grasping Rule 60 - they should pursue
But oddly shareholders taking this action may allow a different perspective to come into play - the District court has a new party to deal with - the shareholders who lost 7 billion in share value - not the company - it’s shareholders - you and me and thousands like us -because of Hikma and the way they ran the trial / expert evidence / documentary exhibits cropped and Mori being statistically incorrect
Rule 60 may be better presented by shareholders who suffered loss from this fraud on the court
But it is equally right they - Amarin-pursue ever other legal route available - cost is limitedrelative to other expenditures
It delays
It’s wears down Hikma
It make their risk reward uncertain in the extreme
It’s part of the reason Hikma has taken only small US market share
It dissuades other generics to pitch in
It buys Amarin time and preserves income
And winning taking any route would be ... incredible
Alm
Marjac
Yes I agree if granted it would likely render the SC consideration of the petition moot
But timing is of the import ... SC needs be aware of the Rule 60 basis
I am sure Supreme Court would be greatly influenced by the Rule 60 and thus indirectly encouraged as it were to hear the petition
Win ....whichever way ....
I am certain you and HK will make the Rule 60 absolutely devastating in its impact...
It will be legend
Alm
Marjac
It would be very helpful to have the Rule 60 in play before the Supreme Court rules on the petition ... if the Rule 60 arguments are read/ and their impact digested by Supreme Court - and thus in the mix as to the judicial fiasco that is the Amarin patent case then SC may be rather more inclined to grant the petition ...and sort the whole damned mess out
Not only has DC erred as to law / and fact and FC failed to act to rectify .... but showing Hikma misled the court via Rule 60 will inevitably raise the whole profile of the matter in the eyes of the Supreme Court
Indeed they may say what law / facts / judgement did this sorry judicial process actually get right ??
Answer ..... let me think ....
Alm
Petition to the Supreme Court
Extremely well written - makes very clear what the Federal Court has allowed to develop runs completely contrary to Supreme Court Precedent (added to which the DC added the new precedent of “weighing “elements against each other which FC has allowed to stand) and that if this deviation from the correct application of the Graham criteria continues patent law is left in a complete and utter shambles -and moreover allows FC to determine precedent
Hard to see how Hikma and DR can suggest that this request is based on a false premise
If there be any justice this will succeed
Alm
Postes
Absolutely spot on
Never been more vital as to this companies future
Alm
Amarin PR- what PR??—-What PR practice is advising??/ who is the director at Amarin in charge of PR- who or what is the driver of PR strategy ???
Indeed do they actually have a strategy ?????
It is IMO a most telling factor as to either the BOD being totally off point - or the only other explanation is that not doing so is part of a developing BO process
Amarin -given its size as a company /turnover / advertising expenditure -and that it has a product that requires significant world wide market development does not have a leading edge PR director on the Board / nor seemingly an advising leading edge PR practice directing and driving a PR strategy
We see this in so many ways - shocking weak inconsistent untimely information that misses the mark has no bang to it - they fail to take on issues and fight the corner - compare Nissan and the Cleveland clinic ....just for one as to impact
Look what Captain Beer can produce by comparison or HK / Pharmadude as to talking point science on the subject
Of all things PR/ advertising is the future life blood of Vascepa - is it that another big pharma PR team is soon going to be taking this on and will develop in their own way ?????- or is the Amarin Board is just well ... so stupid .....that they think they can reinvent themselves from accountants to advertising PR gurus
What is going on presently is frankly laughable - bordering on downright hopeless - it is pathetic
New poll RAF ... shareholders view of Amarins PR strategy - score 0 to 10
I give them a generous 1
Alm
Marjac
Amarin / their lawyers did not see this coming - and when it did materialise - they still did not realise what was happening nor what the consequence was going to be
Alm
Bouf / marjac
No the fraud had two clear parts
The giving of evidence - which was not truthful
The deliberate use of the cropped table to support that false evidence
The cropped table made the lie appear to be factually correct
It was not an accident that cropped table was introduced - they knew it would impact in exactly the way it did
It was a premeditated plan
Let’s call H - he will tell the court it was black even though he knows (as we the defendants do ) it was white -
Then introduce the cropped table which shows it was definitely black - When actually the full table made it crystal clear it was white
Alm
Marjac
Elevator 1 - the misleading testimony of their expert
My most Respectful view - this is nothing like elevated enough ....
Is not the point - and it is the whole point - that there is absolutely no honest and truthful basis as to the defendants experts evidence as to K -and that evidence having been given by their expert the defendants introduced the cropped table knowing full well that cropping of the table would support the untruthful evidence of their expert to make it appear to be the factually the truth when it was not ?
The defendants knew their experts evidence to be untrue and undertook a highly sophisticated deception upon the court to support that fundamental and overwhelmingly significant factual untruth
The whole basis of the courts finding was based upon these deliberate and intentional actions of the defendants
The defendants thus practised a fraud upon the court
Alm
8- everyone knows it is a hit and really hope ... but it will be compelling - and for shareholders at least a time to set out what is right
Alm
8 -pleased you are back.. from one lawyer to another ... can’t see anything lost in the Rule 60 application - and much to gain
HK and Marjac together with team will do an incredible job
And will feel good to set the record straight
Alm
Marjac - hope all well with you and Rule 60 progresses well ... appreciate all your and the team efforts
Alm
HinduKush/ marjac -
Have you see this ??
All will no doubt wish to consider this !!!!!!!
Alm
Rule 60 action wins ....
Well what a headline that will be ....
What’s the present tally on the fighting fund- ? can it be posted every day ?? Loubielou? Jason ??
I have donated once already but will donate further ... I hope others who have already donated will put in a little bit more as well
All you long shareholders can see the share price is going up bit by bit week by week ... you are getting some of the lost share price back ...so you can afford to spend 500 bucks on supporting this legal action ...make it happen....
It will be worth every cent
I am a UK lawyer - we are very blessed to have a USA lawyer - Marjac and some brilliant scientific minds for example HinduKush working their balls off on this case
I have not read one post yet on this board that provides any logical or economic reason as to why this action lacks merit
Long shot you may consider it may be .....but you know giving up before you even try is .......simply pathetic
I thought you Americans fought for what was right ...... where has your fighting spirit gone ???
Alm
St66
ONS.gov.uk - Prevalence of long covid symptoms -report and data set
Alm
Can we have an update on how much has been raised thus far ??
and Daily ??
Has anyone written to the Baker brothers ?? Institutional holders ??
Alm
Bouf/ Kiwi
Risk / reward? What’s your risk ? A small amount is at risk by those who contribute ...reward ...if successful - immense - even if unsuccessful shareholders will have had their day in court ... they will have tried to right a grave wrong
-shareholders have rights... they have the right to pursue this action -and those shareholders at Du decision date lost greatly
Patients lost greatly -Gv that is not to standard / no educational expenditure by generics
Amarin ... because they do not pursue Rule 60 - you do not what - Consider such that the application has no merit? You rely on the Amarin board /it’s lawyers and just let this go ... what for 500 bucks ?
If Rule 60 wins -Maybe those that do not share this burden should donate their share gains to the American Heart Association !!
Alm
Could
I agree with you that V is very likely to be of great value - guess JT may be hamstrung until the Argentinian trial is known in exactly what he can assert ...
It is not long now before we will all know the trial outcome ... if positive benefit to covid treatment it needs be shouted from the rooftops
Given there is so much desperate illness and death with little effective treatment it will be quickly adopted as a standard of care
Alm
St66
This is a completely different study !!!
Alm
Lemmi-
I know that -god bless you -you as Doctor have been at front fighting this battle for so long -you will know first hand just how horrific this is ... for you to say this scares you to the core only brings home the reality of just how terrible this all is - Uk has highest death rate in the world - this news adds greatly to our distress
I am filled with admiration for you and your colleagues of the medical profession - let us hope vaccination transforms the situation - but Vascepa can help too
We need all the help we can get -
Alm
The UK ONS study involved over 47000 patients who had suffered covid and been released from hospital
This study illustrates the terrible cost of covid as to health /welfare /income of covid patients /the cost of treatment of such patients and the burden covid places upon the health services
Vascepa assistance is desperately required - let us hope the Trial delivers a clear message and one which is recognised worldwide as to the part V can play in treating this terrible disease ....
Alm
Covid - hospital readmission and subsequent death statistics
The Uk ONS and general practitioners have just released stats from a study as to alarming levels of readmission of patients who had covid as compared to control group ... 29percent readmitted to hospital within 5 months as compared to control group(non covid)and 13 percent more deaths
Long covid it appears is becoming a serious problem ... let us hope V will play its part in helping these people
Alm
Sts66- that’s for reply
Have you been able to access the study... ? ...my reading of it is not that of a scientifically trained mind ...I welcome the view of those better able than I to assess its impact
Alm
Pharmacydude
Forgive me .. I was uncertain as to whether there were any further reports/ information to be released from the Toronto trial -
Thank you
Alm
Pharmacydude... thanks for this - Argentinian trial will thus likely report March / April ?
What is/was the position with the Canadian study/ trial
- I was not expecting those in the trial to reveal anything prior to reporting ...
Alm
Pharmacydude
Have you seen the BMJ report on NHS Siren study of over 20000 healthcare staff
Report indicates there is 83percent protection for at least 5 months once you have had covid - however putting it another way -there is a 17 percent likelihood across population of reinfection within five months and that protection is thus short lived
Obviously repeated vaccination will help prevent reinfection - but it appears clear that covid /variants is here to stay and there is a dire need for effective drug treatment for covid
Vascepa .... I am sure you are right ... will have a huge part to play
Alm
Pharmacydude-this is a stark reminder of how little progress has been made in treating covid -indeed sadly evidenced by the increasing numbers of deaths currently experienced in USA Europe and worldwide
If Vascepa has a significant impact on mortality and extent of illness we should not underestimate what this would mean for Amarin
Please -Can you or HinduKush or both -in a summary - remind the board of the Canadian and Argentinian studies
What iare they looking at /and with what potential outcomes
And when will they report ??
We should all be acutely and accurately aware of this potential binary event
Thank you in anticipation- and thank you to both for your brilliant efforts made on behalf of patients and shareholders
Alm
The Rule 60 case in Nevada
Longs - win it and your shares will treble overnight
500 dollars each from 200shareholders is what is needed
We get our chance to in a public forum expose the false premise upon which Du was persuaded to write off 6 billion in shareholder value
You want USA market back .??? .. this is as good a prospect as we have of getting it
Alm
Loubie Lou
Now resolved - I have been able to make donation - link is now posted by another I hub member so it’s easy to follow through
Thank you to you Jason marjac and HinduKush for all the incredible work that is going into this
Alm
Thank you
Donation now made
Alm
Loubie
Where is the donation link ?
Alm
B- just a reminder what date is this scheduled for ?
Alm
B- just a reminder what date is this scheduled for ?
Alm