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Agreed!
Thanks for your TA posts and comments!
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!
What do you want?
Forward planning management or one that is behind “your curve”?
Very plausible scenario of turning “good news into bad”.....this is where DI of IR comes in......”your tax dollars at work”!
At the end of the day, with positive results and approval .. ...the Wolfpack will be toast!
Hi Reg2015,
My post was actually directed at the same song (like the nursery rhyme) that the naysayers keep on lamenting about R/S, toxic financing, bad management, etc....they are bankrupt of crapola and just bring out their old 45’s vinyls! That’s how old their negative points are!
I’m a patient long who will only add with any pps dips and will wait for the positive data that will be out soon!
GLTALs
.......here we go round the mulberry bush...the mulberry bush.....the mulberry bush....give it a break!
All blame go to the shorts and manipulators.... the worst kind of bottom feeders!
Custer’s last stand or whistling in the graveyard?
Whatever.....just bought more...!
Never thought they would try a stunt like this but they did!
Thanks for the cheap shares and I’ll keep on buying till these guys find how much diehards believe in this stock.
To da moon Alice!!
Thanks. Thumbs up!
......and 100 shares moved it up $0.003? Not quite that scary huh? ....trial results....not movements in fractions of a cent...that matters!
Chill! Or maybe you are on the wrong side of the equation?
Ooooooooo.....the sky is falling!!!!!
Now the shorts are really afraid because 500K moved the dial....what .... $0.006?
Agreed!
Instead of “wishing and hoping” for an event to occur even if based on rational deduction
and an “educated” guess, we are only setting ourselves up for a fall if it does not materialise.
Especially in the case of NWBO where “patients are living longer” and given the hostile forces that are poised to bring it down, I’d prefer to err on the side caution and let the Trial play itself out.
Unblind and announce only on the advice of the SAB, who are experts in their respective fields! We have waited so long for this bonanza, it will be ready when it is ready!!
No “are we there yet” every few months or when another Conference or World Congress in Oncology rolls around.....”we will get there when we get there” has always been my attitude when it comes to NWBO. The senior management cum shareholders have much more to lose if the trial fails or if they fail to be patient. Notice how the known naysayers have always tried to instigate shareholders to get management to unblind? If it ain’t done yet ....all they can say is ...”oops, my bad...”spineless management succumbing” to shareholders!
Don’t be fooled by these “shareholder activists”.....!!!
Great that you had such a positive vibe after speaking with Dr. Bosch.
Safe travels!!
Only positive takeaway.....we are on their radar and worth bashing!
You have to be a threat or have to have potential to be targeted!
They are coming out in droves both the clowns and silver tongued ones! They are even posting at odd and even in the wee hours! Overtime pay will be huge in the next few months for these hired hacks!!
Latest FUD:
David Innes resigning?
Results will be released in early 2020?
R/S soon?
Even with great results, max price appreciation will be no more than $1 a share?
Prudent investors should hedge their bets by selling some or half of their holdings?
Did I miss out any others?
Reruns can be expected soon?
LP former Enron executive?
Using the $22m to pay themselves bonuses and “outrageous” salaries for doing nothing?
Board of Directors are cronies and just living off shareholders?
Failed Primary and Secondary endpoints but are concealing this “FACT”?
Was asked to halt for futility but nwbo appealed?
Whatever, I’ll only start selling some when it goes above $10! Selling anything below $10 will be undervaluing the shares!!
Good one Afford!
Their earlier guise was one of a disgruntled shareholder and stale bull! As we approach the endgame, all semblance of this guise has been discarded (for expediency) and their real intent is clear for all to see and confirm!
No quality unlike the other silver tongue serpents!
Thumbs up!
Linda Powers fought tooth and nail NOT to do an R/S just to stay on nasdaq and you think she would do it now when we are at the cusp of announcing positive Phase 3 trials? I think not.
Why should she? With a disruptive tech....we don’t need to do an R\S, we will be above the $5 threshold for tutes to invest in us despite the potential billion shares hanging over our heads.
I’d not vote for an R/S if it ever comes on the agenda.
Very subtle FUD IMO.
Sure, we have seen this “attention grabbing headlines” that totally misinterpret the true state of affairs and with NWBO’s history of mishandling these on follow up PRs .... case in point, how Seeking Alpha’s headlines stated that NWBO qualified its results but reading deeper into the article we find it’s a boilerplate disclaimer they quoted. I commented on it and then “cut and pasted” similar Disclaimers and Safe Habour clauses in other PRs by major companies and BPs. I posted a comment but it never saw the light of day....appeared only on YMB. So much for freedom of speech! Follow up by NWBO to Dr. LL’s November presentation, nothing on the great “sneak peek” at the still blinded trial but just lukewarm blather.
Perhaps their POSITIVE top line PR should just be a table of the results, stats and their interpretation.....”exceeds expectations”! Perhaps this is where Innes can greatly contribute to its wording or give it more punch. View it from different angles that minimises “distortions” by unfriendly political scientists and other paid hacks. If you announce it that brief way, how do the negative spinmeisters spin that? If they do negative spin on positive numbers and straightforward narrative, all their credibility goes down the sewer where they belong!
Btw, as I have often stated to other posters here, you can’t be slightly pregnant!
Jerry,
Why not?
How do you know that there is “no way” they would have invested in the company but were just put off by the adverse FUD swirling around?
So, if it is a fact (link please) or is it just speculation on your part?
Fair question?
Doc,
Great post!
A mid-day announcement on a Monday would have maximum effect in my opinion. Announcing Pre market may see concerted low ball offers, capping pps at $1-2 range...not really a good PR strategy IMO.
Catch the Traders by surprise and having players like Bigger sweeping up all the Asks that are on offer and letting the phantom share Traders think it's "business as usual"! Once they realise that it's not a head fake but genuine buying because of the sterling data, they will have to scramble to cover (and remove) their fake Asks and turn genuine Buyers, to ride the updraft. Money Makers have no loyalties or sentiment....just opportunistic situations!
When these fake offers get taken out, there will be fresh Asks (not their entire holdings) from stale bulls who will want to take profits but will hold back some portion to "see where the price finally settles" for the day or in the coming weeks/months.
Over the next few days, Analysts will digest the data and advise their clients accordingly and BPs will evaluate the results and will start making phone calls to the company and their Investment Bankers/and or Advisors to get a "toe in" at a low price as the rules of a B/O has to reflect their last pps purchases. Any price negotiations/ offer can only be higher than their last purchase price.
The above scenario could easily be reality when we get a positive TOP line announcement.....I'll only consider selling my holdings only when the pps hits double digit $$, nothing less because of its platform science potential and is a stock that is literally a "dream investment! Currently a sub $0.30 with a 1000% return potential....a once in a lifetime gem in the rough and have the "price fixers" depressing the price thus giving those without large investable or risk funds a chance to get in at bargain basement prices...thank you Price Fixers! $0.3 to Zero.....Vs.....$0.3 to $$$.... I like the payback odds!
This is a medical breakthrough, a game changer and a disruptor! As shareholders, we have a front row ticket where we get to witness David defeat Goliath against all odds.....to da moon Alice!
GLTALs
.....absence? Probably a staff meeting was called?
Not sure if you guys recall, (sometime last year or so) someone posted a selfie by Gottlieb’s of his red socks that he wore that day to the office. A friendly Twitter exchange between AF ensued and he purposefully gave the readers the “message” that they were both buddies!
It was to show AF’s enemies that ..... “I have buddies in the FDA”....well that I was the impression I got from their twitter exchange!
Now, perhaps when shit hits the fan....”close” buddies get splattered too!
Karma is a bitch!
Its just unbelievable that you can't please the "black holes" among so called Long shareholders!
First they say why no PR people....then why they don't have a credible IR person instead of just "incompetent" Les(?), then they also ask, why no CFO?
There is just no pleasing these blackhole spinmeisters!
Now that we have an IR VP.....latest spin... no need till TOP line.... conversely, if no IR....
how do we get new shareholders? By the way, don't interchange IR with Corps Comm....one releases PRs, the other handles shareholders, potential shareholders and IR people do roadshows.....but those that are using these positions interchangeably know that already...right?
OR
how can they communicate credibly to existing or new shareholders with only Lawyers like LP or Les?
Now that they have hired one....
they only need one after TOP line.....???
OR
"incompetent management"...."always behind the curve of events" if they hired one after TOP line...couldn't they see this coming?
I won't surprised if they soon announce an appointment of a CFO.....then what? The "Blackholes" will say.....manage what money? All riding on the NWBO gravy train since LP and Les have been riding it, might as well quit Oppy and get on the train....after all they have quite a few millions with the real estate deal.
What do you guys want?
Another classic statement...."hidden seller"? Gosh, how low can you go with that logic but you know that already, right?
To me the writing is on the wall....with their war chest....they are preparing for battle and the lines have been drawn with the first salvo in recruiting a "point man" to recce the street for allies and investors and yeah Innes is familiar with the players on the street and yes, he has a biology background, unlike some one else whose only "science" in his background happens to have the word "political" in front of it!
Oh yeah, Innes comes from Wall Street....not formerly from "The Street" or currently in whatever rag sheet that has no credibility.
Next PR.....IMO....will be the recruitment of a top notch CFO....then it's off to the races with an IR, CFO and a legal team to talkshop with the BPs!
Man....senior management team being formed to prepare for partnership, licensing or M&A discussions. All in my opinion will be in the near future. After yesterday's PR, it's apparent to me that the company believes that they need to prepare for a successful conclusion to the trial...
Shorts...be afraid....be very afraid!
To me the Biggest Mystery in my investment is......
“How my fellow shareholders” believe
- that the trial has failed in its primary and secondary endpoints,
- management are liars, dishonest and self serving,
- should replace senior management at this crucial juncture
- they use shareholder money to pay themselves a salary and bonuses,
- practice nepotism,
- not reporting “failures and material events”,
- dragging the trial in the hope that they will get “favourable” results,
- lending the company their own funds at usurious interest rates,
- not focussing on relevant and important (in the critics’ opinion),
- only good for real estate deals,
- raising capital by dilutiion (no hints or suggestions on how else to achieve it),
- believe that the trial will drag on till 2020 or beyond,
- the pps will decline to single digits from here but will not sell .....
..but are invested in the company, still believe in the science, despite the fact that the pps has fallen from $12 to $0.25 and are still posting 24/7.....? They have been here with the usual litany of complaints emerging like clockwork and at the appropriate times.
Next topics to post, “tamper pps appreciation expectations after top line” to put off potential investors with the low multiples and to get stale bulls to dump their shares at $0.80/ - $1... brilliant tactics at play .....seen it all before.....
Thanks Ike for the ASM transcript and this excellent post!
Great post.
Very plausible explanation of what may have transpired.
I have 3 positive takeaways from Ike’s conversation (Ike, thanks for sharing it wth us) with Les.
- Some clarification on what is happening behind the scenes. Ambiguity purposefully crafted so as not to telegraph their intentions.
- From the responses posted, it is clear that some “sleepers” are being activitiated to agitate shareholder unrest i.e subtle bashing
- Some disgruntled “longs” are promising to sell.....but can they be trusted to carry out their sell orders or are like boomerangs who just “keep coming back” even after they have disposed their holdings.
An interesting observation, this Ike/Les conversation took place whilst there is still ONE MORE TRADING SESSION before the ASM.....so if it is going to be a “non-event” as some HAVE predicted, the price will plummet (if nothing “new” emerges) why have this conversation on a Thursday (After hours) when Les could just as easily have called Ike on Friday (After hours)?
If the entire conversation was carefully crafted and scripted as speculated, you would think that these “dastardly” lawyers would also have considered the impact and timing of this (ambiguous / non info) conversation would have on the pps or its affect on the decision of some “last minute fence sitting” shareholders?
I therefore opine that Les may have tried to convey something which he reckons to be some “gold nuggets” and could be viewed positively. So, to some of you “sleuths” and “tea leaf” readers, could you perhaps relook Ike’s transcript and see if there are any “nuggets” contained therein because I feel that the “glass half full” posters were put on the “defensive” from the get go after Ike’s post! Subtle manipulation!
Btw, for those of you who still believe it will be a non event and the market will sell it down, post ASM, you should rationally sell it at today’s open because by Monday (after this Saturday’s non event) the pps will be in the mid to low teens, and you can virtually double your current holdings, despite the “incompetent and dishonest” management BUT the science is real.
Interesting that some believe that despite the bad and nepotistic management or trial has failed or the 69 co authors to the JTM were paid in $0.17 warrants or that the SAB had recommended the continued blinding of the trial are doing so just to continue to feed at NWBO’s cash trough.... why are you still here complaining incessantly....go figure!
Clipper,
Some funds have a finite life and even if an event is “round the corner” no extensions, period. Some of these funds have a life of 5,7 or 10 yrs, hell or high water...they have to liquidate their holdings. Some in their charter allow distribution in specie, others only cash after liquidation.
That is correct. All equity funds have a finite life and after its end, its distributed in cash or in specie .....another FUD ....”the sky is falling”? Please read it carefully and ask your broker or financial advisor about this.
If you still choose to sell because of this announcement, thanks for the cheap shares!
Sadly....not a laughing matter when such devices get through without any “interference” or vicious attacks and desperate patients buy into the story.
A vaccine that is so promising like DCVax get the wrong attention from people or groups, with no thought that their FUD’s impact can make on patients desperately looking for a treatment that can potentially prolong their lives but move on in their search having been put off by the FUD on the Net, MB and “expert analysts”!
Just for 30 pieces of silver! Karma bites!
Only thing missing is the labelling on the package it comes in......
“As Seen On TV!!!!!”
......or a simpler explanation, was not in the memo.....!
Senti,
Apologies that I was misunderstood by you but was just being sarcastic about management or anyone else providing definitive dates.
Abeta, great post, my very sentiments.
Although I’m also frustrated at the paucity of information, my eye has always been on the endgame and thankful that we have come thus far since NW, Phase V, delisting to OTC etc and of course, the price depreciation! I don’t claim to be a top 5 shareholder but my syndicate and I have a 7 figure holding, averaging down as each PR gets released. We do engage consultants to analyse each PR and to date, it all seems to be very positive.
Despite a lot of “shoulda and coulda” (always in perfect hindsight) the fact remains, we are still here and are waiting for Topline to be released.....who would have thought that we could have made it here.....at the very cusp of its DCVax -L trial! If it takes a few more months to nail it, so be it!
Calling for a change of, belittling or maligning the efforts of current management, just whistling in the graveyard!
AF is a tool, plain and simple! Pick a quarrel with a tool? Smart move. Cofer Black was brought on board to investigate the “wielders of the tool” and gather the evidence, not lash out blindly at a dumb and blunt “poly sci” hammer!
Btw, for those who want specific dates of “are we there yet”...... how about 29th March 2019 at 4.01pm EST? Give or take a few minutes? No PR on that date.....management credibility tarnished......yet again! I’ll take
WE ARE WORKING ON IT!
AIMO
GLTALs
Iwasadiver.....well said!
IkeEsq
Great job, thank you!
GLTALs
I don’t think we need to “suppose”, we are still here against all odds, waiting for the final trial results.
To be here at the finish line (for better or worse) is worth a thousand Monday morning Quarterbacks’ comments and “shoulda and coulda” armchair generals!
ADVN,
Classic Brit humour! LOL!
Chill, I’m betting (putting my money where my mouth is) that it will be within the next 6 months...till then!
GLTALs.
Just for a minute consider the effect of the various negative posts.
If you were a shareholder / guest in a hotel with a great location but your comments on Trip Advisor....
- great location but showers don't work
- great location but rooms lacks creature comforts and amenities
- great location but facilities almost zero
- great location but dirty linen and threadbare carpets. The Dept. of Sanitation temporarily closed the hotel for unknown reasons. However, sometime later the hotel resumed its operations, possibly for some refurbishment / renovation work but the assumption put out in the market was that they may have found cockroaches in the kitchen and other parts of the hotel were found to be in an unsanitary condition.......but....but....but sanitary or unsanitary, still love the location and I hope you'll "stay" here!
- great location but terrible management! Front desk / Reception doesn't even answer my calls, room service was non existent
- great location but the room occupancy rates have been falling perhaps because of the bad reviews by guests and shareholders but hey, the location is great and I really can't understand why guests are not coming!
- great location and due to the drastic drop in occupancy rates, Management have been cutting their room rates if not they will soon have to close its doors. Wonder why even with lowered rates guests aren't coming in droves!
Etc.....Etc....Etc
Now, if you were a potential guest (investor) and looking for a hotel to stay in at a great location, will you be booking a room here anytime soon?
Sure, if one were the competition in a less superior location, you'd be posting and promoting negative comments but if you claim to be a "repeat" guest or a shareholder in the hotel, you think your comments will attract new guests when they read the comments? You think these comments on Trip Advisor will get you better room rates?
Thank goodness Management sold their U.K. property to finance a "spanking" new hotel at this "great location" that will be opening this year!
Beartrap,
Agree 100%. LP and existing executives have brought us to the finishing line, tirelessly and with a passion to survive against all odds. Discrediting them has always been one of the shorts' "weapons of choice" and sometimes it gets very personal. The fact that they are coming out of the "woodwork" only reinforces my belief that we are now at the end of a POSITIVE finish. Some "sleepers" have also being activated and other "altruistic" posters from other MBs like IV and YMB have been called into service. Some pseudo longs have also been showing their true colors of late, shedding their fake veneers!
Ponder this logically,
If you think management is crap or lying, why would you still be invested here?
If you think that the halt had deeper more ominous reasons, why are you still?
If you think the trial has already failed and data has been falsified, why are you still here?
If you think there are "billions" of shares for sale and it's the reason why the pps can't appreciate, why are you still here?
If you think this is dead money for another 12-24 months, why are you still here?
Please don't tell me you believe in the science because a dishonest or incompetent management can quickly screw up even the very best of products!
The current angle of their attacks only smacks of their desperation, bankrupted of new negative points!
The result of this tenacious management speaks for itself, we are still here despite the efforts of the "Wolfpack" over the last few agonising years. True, our pps is currently at a fraction of its true value and yet, this fact remains glaringly clear, we are still here and even closer to the finishing line!
The current management have navigated us through very treacherous waters and with the finish in sight.....they are trying to get us to change Captains, nice try shorties!
What do you realistically think would happen if such a scenario plays out? AF will tweet:
Trial has failed!!! Captain Powers jumps Ship!
Shareholder mutiny ousts CEO of a failed trial!
Company in disarray without a CEO!
Price plunges to near ZERO, the market has spoken....please.....
do we look like newbies?
For those true but confused longs, showing emotion and impatient tantrums really have no place in any stock marketplace and if these seemingly "respected" posters tell you otherwise, their motives ought to be suspect with us being so close to the finishing line.
This is an anonymous MB and claims of owning "millions of shares", having met senior executives........sure, I had breakfast with Santa and his elves a few weeks ago!
Stay the course with the management team, they will get my vote of confidence from the "millions" of shares that I own and I WILL NOT APOLOGISE FOR SUPPORTING MANAGEMENT!
Happy NWBO Year to everyone on board our DCVax Express to approval!!!!
We will own 2019!!!