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Got it, thanks.
Ah, ok thanks for that.
What do you mean by that...good luck...what is wrong with what I wrote?
So, I made a few comments about this reverse split, but then got to thinking, how does someone know it is 1000:1? According to your link, on the FINRA report, I didn't see 1000:1 anywhere on that listing. Where do you get that number/?
So, am I doing the math right...that will leave only 152,800 O/S after the split??? hmmm
I agree, nothing to worry about yet. We will have to keep an eye on the company to see if they decide later to "add" shares. I will say, the only real problem is that it will initially raise the per share price, not in a good way, but it then give lots of room to the downside for those who can/will try to drive the share price down again.
That's BS, even with this split, the shareholders still own the same percentage of the outstanding shares they owned before the split. The problem comes in later if the company decides to add shares to the structure.
Old news...unrelated company...no comparison.
I too am weary of those promoting him as this/that CEO and to say that he is "the smartest CEO on the OTC" (as I have read here on this board) is a bit too much. But, you do not know for sure that he is the one selling (or as you say "dumping") With as many O/S that are available and the numbers held by some, what you say is unknowable.
A/S is 2 billion
O/S 840 million and rising.
Headquarter in China
No IR to communicate.
Reversed into a dirty shell.
Pumped by unlimited supply of pictures.
Quite tough to see something LEGIT here.
Suggestion: COMMUNICATE.
Let's take one piece at a time:
* A/S 2 Billion...meaningless
* O/S 840 million...not sure, you may be right
* Headquartered in China...meaningless, there's many companies there.
* No IR to communicate...no, there is one, just hasn't been a good communicator...definitely a concern
* Reversed into dirty shell....meaningless, they have spent the time necessary to clean up...old Fins completed, lawsuit to get back 54 million shares
* Pumped by unlimited supply of pictures...no, it is a limited supply and not pumped by anyone, just presented for consideration. still meaningless.
All in all, seems like your points are mostly meaningless. 1 thing I will agree on is there definitely needs to be communication by the company and not rely on others to get the info out.
Go JBZY
Yup, all good, except one would expect to see revenues follow all the good news, good info, "great CEO". But what we get with each passing day and each PR about some kind of JV with another company...lower stock prices. Hopefully all the "good" news will one day result in higher stock price...just wonder when.
Yup, and the point is???
You may be exactly correct.
Oh, I'm positive..of what I own and that this stock will be going up soon enough which is why I have not sold my core 2 million+ shares, I just like truth and the ability to know that. In a normal market (not OTC) I do think the whispers happen all the time, but in this market I believe it less likely that whispers of "what is coming" happen here.
Listen, I would love for that to be true. To make that leap, one would have to believe the volume is from those leading the company, otherwise I doubt that Anyone knows when news is coming.
What is your proof of dilution. The stock price is no indication...no PR at this point is the cause of the stock price, but interested in the dilution.
Why do you think that? Hasn't been there for months...been holding above 3 for quite some time.
ummm, I was being facetious...to who I was replying...I am very long here and just waiting for the fruit to appear.
Yup, stock is dead, nothing more to see here.
And you know it wasn't a dump by 1 person, but it was equal to the T trades...hidden trades from all day. May not be legal, but MM's have the ability to do that. Since I know you will ask, no, no proof, just my hunch and opinion...can you say manipulation?
That's just silly!!!
I actually agree with you on that. You would think that he would have had meetings set up for specific purposes. Maybe he did, just with other companies he is involved with; just not this one.
Really not sure what you are trying to prove. We all know that manipulation is happening here as in other OTC stocks. That sell, if it actually happened was quite possibly from several transaction through the day and just hidden for a short period of time. Just like T trades are done.
Long and Strong JBZY!!!
Agreed, and enjoyed the conversation.
Sure, aware of the term, and always possible with the stock market no matter the stock. But, that still disregards the lawsuit for 54 million shares, the existing owners going back and filing the fins for past years, as well as other DD found on this site. And, I am not referring to all the so called "photo-shopped" pictures (and I don't believe that to be true anyway), but the many other connections. But, as you might say to me, believe what you will.
So, did the company file a lawsuit in an effort to get back 54 million shares? So far, what we know is "yes" they did. So, how does that fit into the whole concept of "scam" or at the very least something nefarious going on? Serious question. There seems no be no reason for the company that bought the shell to do so and addition, go back and update the fins for some of the prior years when the shell was named DOLV.
So, in the stock market, in order to make a market, isn't it true that when there is a seller, then there are also buyers????? So, even if front loaders are selling...and there's no proof of that, and your presumption based on other posts you've made is that since this is a scam, then it was the owner of the scam shell doing all the selling, then there are also buyers. So, is what you think is that only the new buyers are going to be left with an empty, nothing there, shell?
Fair enough, but it still seems that there needs to be some kind of significant event that will cause it to rise in value out of the "oversold" condition. We shall see. It just perplexes me, especially in this stock, where there is no pre-market trading, all of the price action is caused by the market makers.
What is interesting about that is did you look at the group of stocks? Did you notice how many of them are "holding" companies? I have no theory about that, but it did make me go "hmmmmm".
I would like to think so, but what is the catalyst at this point and all of a sudden? I say manipulation of the pre-market. Keep a close eye on it.
Probably right, just a bit strange. On another point...not much action on this ticker right now...hopefully some info soon.
I absolutely agree with you; I am not the one who has made that claim. Any response by me this morning was an attempt to have a conversation about that very idea. Had a good back and forth with MC; a rare occurrence here at IHUB.
Can someone explain to me why and how this stock went to .0068 on a 100 share trade and then when there is an attempted purchase at a limit of .0085 it won't fill? Seems a bit crazy to me.
I'm with ya, 11 million for me. Well, until I can validate "scam", I will just say, poor decision on my part to invest in a company with only promise and no results. Companies come and go all the time that make promises and have 0 results...haven't invested in them thankfully. I am holding out hope for this company. Will have to make a decision sometime relatively soon to continue to hold or sell and move on. It still sounds promising to me for now.
Come on MC, seriously, Scam is much too harsh. That would suggest something nefarious is happening here. That is a leap of non-truth.
No. I'm not presuming anything is made up. My point is that news is like all the other news we have heard over the past may months..."good things coming", "big contracts"...and on and on. Yes, things take time and I am willing to wait. Just expressing a bit of frustration that all this "big news" has not resulted in actual observable revenue. What have the financials shown...not much. If really a public company and reporting revenues are important, that will be the tell tale sign, not a bunch of "good news" pr's or tweets. And, BTW, I don't believe I said anything about anything being "made up".
Well, that's an interesting question. As a very long in this stock (and frustrated at that), you actually have to have some revenue and then start from there. At this point we don't even have that. Seems there should be at least some small contracts actually paying money before we can ever expect it to grow to be what Tom (and us shareholders) wants it to be.
If all of that is true, then where are the revenues? I have been long this stock, but becoming frustrated with "great info", "great news coming", "big new contracts"; and nothing to show for it.
I guess I missed what led to this post. Serious question, what does it mean for this stock? Thanks in advance