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Whay does that say to you? I'm long here and curious to learn everyones opinion....
Even if every one of the 80 mil shorts you are talking about have been covered since the 10th, that still leaves the roughly 66 mil that were shorted up to the 9th when TNLUF shares were released. How and when are they going to cover those if they've been shorting new ones every day?
Right now this thing is trading on MMs and fear.... a powerful combination for a drop in PPS.
Curious to understand....how are the shares shorted today, "naked short shares"? Aren't the MMs able to borrow shares that are now available at brokerage houses? What am I missing? Also, does it matter if they are naked short shares or borrowed shares?
As I understand it from what I've read here and studied, the squeeze starts on or about the 28th. The MMs clock couldn't start ticking until there were real shares to cover their NSS, that started the day the tnluf shares were released, the 9th. So with that in mind, today is day four of 13, day 13 is still 9 days away. People keep asking, where's the squeeze, there isn't one yet because their not on the SHO list, until they are they can and will keep shorting. At this point, due to short sited sellers, they are covering some of their short, too little too late as far as I can tell.
From what Iv'e gathered the shorts won't have an actual problem until the 28th of this month, that will be the 13th day after there were shares available for them to cover. Prior to that they were naked shorting for I think it was 11 days, plenty of time to get way behind, they figured they would only have to wait 3 days for the transfer to happen but it took much longer. If they have in fact managed to cover it would be a miracle, I'm sure their working on it but that's a lot of ground to cover in a short period of time.
One bad day and everyone is turining ugly. I heard all the weekend cheerleading too and was hopeful but a red day is inevitable. We have to weather this just like any other long weathers bad days. I think patience will win out here.
Do all those ask slaps mean this should start to rebound a little?
This thing is getting worked hard today, looks like were going to sit here for a better part of the day.
How about just giving me a straight answer, just fill in the blanks...
The first day of the 13 for te MMs to cover is_________
That is the first day because___________
Just fill in the blanks
I just need the information.....if I could decipher all this I would, its just a little confusing with so many people saying different things, there has to be one right answer, no opinions matter.
So is it simply the day the tnluf shares were released?
I did read that one and it makes sense but didnt they start shorting well over 13 days ago? And I still wonder how this is not the 3rd day, there has to be a staring point of day one of 13, how do we determin that?
Ok, how was it determined that we are now on day three?
That is a great explanation, thank you! Now, how was it determined what day one was and why was it thought to be last week or the week before, can't even remember at this point.
Since you're here.....if an MM shorts on day one, two and three but is able to cover some on day four does that covering go back and satisfy day one's shorts or only the day they do it?
It's nice the posting has slowed down some and has gotten more reasonable and seems more fact based. The constant talk of this going up $1 tomorrow was a little frustrating. I still believe in this stock and haven't sold out so I am long for sure, I just want things to be realistic, up to .07 tomorrow seems very reasonable. Thanks to everyone who has posted solid DD and answered some of my queztions, it's been a great help all around. AXXA
That seems clear....when is that date?
Serious question.....does that not speak directly to the situation were involved in and how soon will that be enforced? Ok, that's 2 questions....
I still don't understand and no one has been able to clear it up for me. Why, if they are in such trouble, which it seems they are, do they keep shorting more every day? Are they able to cover the shorts they created today with the new shares that got converted?
Exploret...I do remember Fahrenheitjules, I will see what I can find.
That sounds like a very realistic prediction
Leppard....you called last Friday..."it will either open and the MMs will do a head fake and it will go down a bit but then go back up or it will go up right out of the gate" Whats you call for tomorrow?
How does it not matter? Not sure I understand what you mean...
There were now requirements stated. Looks like their gone however, correct?
exploreit....have you heard anything about your "C" shares being converted? I have 14 and the TA wrote saying they were going to convert them at only 50 instead of 100k. Let me know if you know anything, very curious about this one.
I may have to do that.....wow, guess I should have planned on hearing from the monkey tree on that one hu?
Question for someone.....I have 14 restriced TNLUF shares that are supposed to be converted to 1.4 million as of now. The company is now suggesting they are willing to offer 700 (seven hundred) shares instead. Can they legally do that when it was in writing what they were going to do? As you might imagine, I'm VERY INTERESTED in having all the shares they promised...it would change this from a new VIN number to a new zip code for me.
He didn't run for the exit....he was shown where it was.
EXACTLY....Well put!
Are there any charts that show the number of short shares against the number of naked short shares? No one seems to be able to answer some of these questions....I'm still holding mine but would like to understand this better. Why are they still shorting if all their doing is digging a deeper hole?
If there are real shares available, why are they still shorting and of the shorts from any given day, how many might they have already covered, if any?
Carjockey, thanks for the heads up about PMs, I had no idea that was a rule.
That's true it has, hasn't it.....I will bump up my patience
Seems to be making a drop....??
How far behind, time wise, is the streamer on ihub?
Would that not show up somewhere or can they hide that? Also, how would that help them in the long run?
And please, correct me if I'm wrong, no need for anger or frustration, this will all be academic in a very short period of time l.
And please, correct me if I'm wrong, no need for anger or frustration, this will all be academic in a very short period of time l.
That seems to indicate leppard is in fact wrong but I think this is a little different in that there were no other shares to work with until the shares from TNLUF were released. With that in mind they wouldnt be able to cover their shorts in a few seconds as they usually would, they would have to cover a short with a short.....just what it seems I've read.
It is amazing how contradictory all thats being said is, both sides seem so convinced. My wondering is, why would anyone be on here to disuade someone from this stock? I don't really buy the, "were just here to help" thing, doesn't play into normal human behavior. On the other hand why try to get people to buy other than to "help".....
I suppose if leppard is right and he sure is confident, we only have a short time to find out. I for one hope and pray he is right!