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My bet: I'm long but I would say that management pull out the final PR calling for vote in february after Hours, today. Time is running out before conversions due end february. The final nail in our suffering coffin. So far a lethal leadership in this company.
Agree. Same here. No need for a heroes when management does allow all this.
We need you to rally the "forces" cause it seems that the retail guys doesn't pour enough money IN to stop the blodbath...
The people that has info (MM, management) is flushing us out BIG TIME! Management abset or working with the MM. When we're gone... well they can take on the RS and AS easily.
so you saying that the Company's behavior (communication) has been supportif to the company's value.... You can hint wiithout giving away critical info. All companies does that all time.
upsssss ARCA already with 50.000 @ 0,048.... Mamma Mamma mia.
That (debt dealings)has nothing to do with giving, for instance..., a news about the plans in Europe, or guidance on sales expectation for 2015, something to stop the bleeding and support the sahre price. Common sense says that that would also help to deal with debt dealings. They don't do it. Must be a reason for that, and the answer has nothing to do with retail shareholders interest. Fact.
The company could communicate and stop this nonsense. Very easily. Did you hear anything from the company after the beginning of conversions to where they are headed? Are you saying that WE, retail, have to put money here to keep the share from going lower? You serious?! Man, if management wanted this to stop they could do it in a blink of an eye. I cannot believe that they're that useless as not to see that COMMUNICATION could stop that. But they don't. That´s the true reality.
I think the management is letting the share price drop in purpose. Must be a part of their plan. Certainly retail seems expendable. Common sense says that if they wanted to keep stimulating the share price they could do it even with flufff PR. But they didn't and they don't. The course of events are telling me that they might come up with a PR today, after hours, calling for the vote in the AS and RS, just to push the price even lower.
Agree. I'll keep going to see the outcome of this "nightmare"... but so far the comapny's management has shown contempt to the retail's shareholders. So far we do our "job" from keeping the share value further collapsing and... looks like we're 100% expendable as to the way management is not hinting any direction... There is some guys there on the BOD that fail. I'll keep it professional but some of the pretending leaders has lost my confidence. Retail investors are the last of the management priorities.
there we go... to test 0,05 support...
I think you're wrong if you imply that the current situation is retail's fault because not pouring money wildly, and blindly to Ecig (no information from company AT ALL). Man, I'm long, but lack in company's communication leads to the current short attacks... and flipping . They could feed the upwards machine if they want it. Just communicating. They don't so it must be a reason or lack of leadership. Don't blame the retail. We're just a "trench soldiers" here.
well my comme sense says me that even with a 300.000 milion shares more (now), at this current price, plus the MM shorting game (going on) they can't pay the remaining debt due february so it must be something attached to the fact of getting an increase in AS and afterwards RS otherwiser has no sense. It must be some kind of deal. Something that leave the stock alone and management free to push growth.
basically a very simple thing: whatever is discussed to fix the "debt thing" doesn't take our interest in consideration at all. I mean "0". We're left alone with our thoughts and "guts" about where this goes... (hopefully up). The MM pounding and management absent. We're the "spectator" in all this. Like in a tennis match.
we certainly been left alone in this "wheater" conditions... and I don't expect any kind of deal to take care of us... (even if finally we get very well on). We're left with our "guts" about this stock and its future...
Just 200.000 shares down and the price droops 10%...
look like the wall will prevail... ARCA again did freeze the moods...
Certainly ARCA has still AMMO-dilution...Not like 3 weeks ago but hedging down the action....today
if we could send ARCA in holidays for a week...
back to the wall... we need to go though this time.
agree but it works in a kamikazee way... which cool down the spirits...
but it does very well cooling down the moods... "Scary" when all the time hedging...the prey.
Arca again @ work.... Not good.
ETRF and NITE the WALL keepers today... but getting thinner... If we burst... we see the sun.
The moment of thruth... The "WALL" @ 0,062... We need Tyrion Lannister... to go through.
@ the moment showing a low profile. Sitting with 15.000 @ 0.058. Hope it stays in low profile...
going up... 500.000 bid @ 0'055
Somebody explains what's going on with ARCA building such a wall at 0'054ask when there is 0'054 bis?
CSTI and NITE, hand by hand to contain any rally... For now.
MAXM MM on the bid. They don't work with retail. They typically work with companies and large investors. They deal more in big board stocks.
Just an exemple to when a RS is well received by the market. Yesterday: SLT$(solar) (OTC) just announced an inminent RS and the price went up 9%. Not a possibility but a decision as the BOD has the meanings to impose it. It was perceived as a normal step towards uplisting in Nasdaq. That company has 350.000.000 shares outstanding right now, and currently is trading at 0.18$, with sales around 20 milion $ per year. They're growing organically throught adquisitions also. Difference: Management is clearly giving better visibility to its project. ECIG has to "wheater" this "storm" and give confidence to what they're trying to built. They're in a growing market, incredibly well positioned throught distribution, but they have to "chew" better the steps they're taking and 2 things: a) communicate MUCH BETTER to infuse confidence b) Once the idea is well communicated explore different ways to finance it (surely there is "money" somewhere that wants to invest in a fast-grwing market in a more normal terms). Once you have that... the mindset could change from seeing the RS as a loss of value to a possibility to increase it when uplisted in a major board. So, the point, not all RS are negative by itself. It depends on how you "sell" the idea. Certainly right now the most important: BOD has to regain the confidence of potential investors. The company is pounded big time and nobody knows for how long, and if it will stop ever, or the outcome of all that. They have to SHOW if they're capables of building something according to their background or get "crunched" by the MM, noteholders etc...
As I see it right now... the main problem to SLTD is the drop in oil prices... I know... the power generated in US by oil is nothing... but which company will invest in a new technology, in solar, with such a dissapointing oil price?. It have to be taken in consideration that the company willing to invest in a new technology (SLTD cell) will do it because it's meaningful worldwide. My point is that the oil prices has stop the steaming in the solar industry. Many countries on the world still relay in oil produced power. I expect difficult times for the green energy..., so far the oil goes down, and at least until the climate change summit in Paris at the end of the year (and if there is any kind of clear!! agreement to reverse the climate change involving clean energy.
Appreciate PM about info. I cannot send PM. Thanks in advance and GL
we have an absent CEO. Thus consenting.
Talent on loan from a clown.
yep but with such a downward strengh I prefer to get that answer from the sidelines... Ther is always time to get back in if "landscape" changes... This company is becoming a Las Vegas casino... A train running full steam without driver...
The "poison pill" here have been the management doings. They deserve to get a "professional" slap big time.
I prefer to keep the ammo..., in case..., that to see it sink to virtually nothing. Do you see the relentless work from ARCA in level 2. Those guys form the BOD must see it also.
ARCA relentlessly putting the Ask under the Bid. Retail cannot counter that. They want it down and down she goes...No mercy here.
As far as I see it there is no way that we can counter the strenght of the "dumping"... as it stands. So we better go with the the tide... for now.
I'm changing strategy here. The management has left us down big time. I'll be watching from the sidelines...
Can somebody just get that CEO's picture OUT from the board...
To see that guy laughing just add salt to the wound.... hehehe His "professional" name will get some tanking here.
GLTeverybody.