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All the best and good on ya -
however it was only just Jan29, 2014 when they announced entering the MJ sector so it's been less than a month for that news revelation and it already shot up to nearly .005 on that initial news in one day - so any more news on that front this time should go much higher - imo
Based just on that, I highly doubt it will be trading at these low levels for much longer - imo
Also they only just anounced advancement of the SL lighting program so things seem to be changing for the better here -
I do agree with you this will be a good week here (and beyond) but I think we disagree on how good! imo
$DEWM still moves like a DREAM!! that's what no dilution on a very modest SS will get you - imo
Chart looks most excellent, but the thin trade looks even better for when the time comes to move - imo
$DEWM .015 seems to be the new support level so added some this morning - imo
strong like bull - imo
$VPER Picked up a few more on the dip - imo
very thin here which indicates when it goes, it's really going to go fast - imo
$VPER As I posted yesterday, the chart suggests the next leg up is at hand - esp with the kind of sustained upsloping consolidation now seen but that which this stock has not seen as far back as charts allow to go, which is 3yrs -
So that tells me something is up, so I'm interested. On top of the other announced deals that finally look to be coming to be after many months, in comes the marijuana market for them as well with a product many MJ and Hemp growers and distributors will want and need to meet huge demand now that legalization has happened in the US - imo
Nearly every stock at this kind of level having any hand in the MJ Sector with as low a SS like this has run to a penny and some ++ - imo
TTD* easily just did so with very similar SS and they have not 90% going on as here as they are a complete start-up - imo
$VPER charts and DueD -
Charts reflect sustained upward movement and positive sentiment. Huge upside imo -
Being able to be a legit Marijuana Sector player now has changed the game here imo - Their EXISTING LED grow lighting products are a custom fit for the sector who will need to start generating much more product and fast to meet the demand - imo
daily
daily
weekly
Current due diligence
From Jan29 PR
"Although the Company first began developing the Fast Grow LED technology in Saudi Arabia for the purpose of creating abundant vegetation for livestock feed throughout the Middle East, global demand for faster vegetation/plant growth from other industry sectors has positioned Viper Networks for greater expansion into multiple sectors; including the rapidly developing market of legal marijuana growth and sales throughout the United States.
As investment options and funding in the cannabis industry continue to grow with government legalization and the emergence of retail marketplace, Viper Agriculture Technology is positioning itself to be a significant market competitor. In addition to international sales and pilot testing of its line of intelligent LED lighting solutions, the Company has endeavored to secure advance orders for its Fast Grow LED Systems throughout the Middle East for fast grow vegetation needs, as well as North America to capitalize on the twenty recently Legalized Medical Marijuana States.
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ABOUT VIPER NETWORKS, INC.: Viper Networks, Inc. (in partnership with Apollo Metro) is a manufacturer and distributor of highly-efficient LED lighting to provide superior turnkey LED lighting solutions for metropolitan areas (streets and highways), parking lots and warehousing facilities anywhere. By combining LED Lighting, Wireless MESH, Sensors, Infrared and Video into a single design; Apollo Metro Solutions' propriety line of wireless products can be applied to existing infrastructure through streamlined system integration for a full selection of intelligent LED lighting solutions worldwide.
Huge lighting contract with Sri Lanka going to gross $5 - 15mill month plus pending contracts in Qatar
http://www.ledlightsfromchina.com/article-2/7135.html
Very low SS details for any MJ Sector stock
VPER Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $4,411,039 a/o Feb 21, 2014
Shares Outstanding 2,205,519,448 a/o Sep 30, 2013
Float Not Available
Authorized Shares 2,500,000,000 a/o Jun 30, 2013
$VPER charts and DueD -
Charts reflect sustained upward movement and positive sentiment. Huge upside imo -
Being able to be a legit Marijuana Sector player now has changed the game here imo - Their EXISTING LED grow lighting products are a custom fit for the sector who will need to start generating much more product and fast to meet the demand -
daily
daily
weekly
Current due diligence
From Jan29 PR
"Although the Company first began developing the Fast Grow LED technology in Saudi Arabia for the purpose of creating abundant vegetation for livestock feed throughout the Middle East, global demand for faster vegetation/plant growth from other industry sectors has positioned Viper Networks for greater expansion into multiple sectors; including the rapidly developing market of legal marijuana growth and sales throughout the United States.
As investment options and funding in the cannabis industry continue to grow with government legalization and the emergence of retail marketplace, Viper Agriculture Technology is positioning itself to be a significant market competitor. In addition to international sales and pilot testing of its line of intelligent LED lighting solutions, the Company has endeavored to secure advance orders for its Fast Grow LED Systems throughout the Middle East for fast grow vegetation needs, as well as North America to capitalize on the twenty recently Legalized Medical Marijuana States.
"
ABOUT VIPER NETWORKS, INC.: Viper Networks, Inc. (in partnership with Apollo Metro) is a manufacturer and distributor of highly-efficient LED lighting to provide superior turnkey LED lighting solutions for metropolitan areas (streets and highways), parking lots and warehousing facilities anywhere. By combining LED Lighting, Wireless MESH, Sensors, Infrared and Video into a single design; Apollo Metro Solutions' propriety line of wireless products can be applied to existing infrastructure through streamlined system integration for a full selection of intelligent LED lighting solutions worldwide.
Huge lighting contract with Sri Lanka going to gross $5 - 15mill month plus pending contracts in Qatar
http://www.ledlightsfromchina.com/article-2/7135.html
Very low SS details for any MJ Sector stock
VPER Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $4,411,039 a/o Feb 21, 2014
Shares Outstanding 2,205,519,448 a/o Sep 30, 2013
Float Not Available
Authorized Shares 2,500,000,000 a/o Jun 30, 2013
$VPER charts and DueD -
Charts reflect sustained upward movement and positive sentiment. Huge upside imo -
Being able to be a legit Marijuana Sector player now has changed the game here imo - Their EXISTING LED grow lighting products are a custom fit for the sector who will need to start generating much more product and fast to meet the demand - imo
daily
daily
weekly
Current due diligence
From Jan29 PR
"Although the Company first began developing the Fast Grow LED technology in Saudi Arabia for the purpose of creating abundant vegetation for livestock feed throughout the Middle East, global demand for faster vegetation/plant growth from other industry sectors has positioned Viper Networks for greater expansion into multiple sectors; including the rapidly developing market of legal marijuana growth and sales throughout the United States.
As investment options and funding in the cannabis industry continue to grow with government legalization and the emergence of retail marketplace, Viper Agriculture Technology is positioning itself to be a significant market competitor. In addition to international sales and pilot testing of its line of intelligent LED lighting solutions, the Company has endeavored to secure advance orders for its Fast Grow LED Systems throughout the Middle East for fast grow vegetation needs, as well as North America to capitalize on the twenty recently Legalized Medical Marijuana States.
"
ABOUT VIPER NETWORKS, INC.: Viper Networks, Inc. (in partnership with Apollo Metro) is a manufacturer and distributor of highly-efficient LED lighting to provide superior turnkey LED lighting solutions for metropolitan areas (streets and highways), parking lots and warehousing facilities anywhere. By combining LED Lighting, Wireless MESH, Sensors, Infrared and Video into a single design; Apollo Metro Solutions' propriety line of wireless products can be applied to existing infrastructure through streamlined system integration for a full selection of intelligent LED lighting solutions worldwide.
Huge lighting contract with Sri Lanka going to gross $5 - 15mill month plus pending contracts in Qatar
http://www.ledlightsfromchina.com/article-2/7135.html
Very low SS details for any MJ Sector stock
VPER Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $4,411,039 a/o Feb 21, 2014
Shares Outstanding 2,205,519,448 a/o Sep 30, 2013
Float Not Available
Authorized Shares 2,500,000,000 a/o Jun 30, 2013
$VPER Chart and trade says it's thin and ready! - imo
cheers -
$VPER another nice trade day - imo
the beauty upward sloping chart consolidation over many days now is indiative that shareholders believe good news is on the near horizon. Very attractive daily chart the weekly staged above the 200ma is very bullish for the next level up - imo
the daily all-retail thin trade suggests this should easily mimick the recent $TTD* run to .01 (as they have very similar low SS's) - very thin here
good weekend to all - imo
sorry wallstreet1231, no dice - merely knowing (or believing) (or hearing of the possibility of or probability of) news of "a material event" or even just a general corporate update that "may" be coming forth cannot not be insider trading UNLESS the follwing criteria are met:
1. The one who found out the release of a material event was to occur and could be PROVEN to have known what that event was to be before the general public -
2. Second, that then the one who knew could be PROVEN TO HAVE TRADED upon or made portfolio decisons BASED UPON knowing such event (think Martha Stewart) -
Emphasis on both of these criteria would have to be PROVABLE beyond a reasonable doubt.
The critical flaw in your argument here that would never hold up is in the end you would have to prove the accused actually received such information directly from an insider (or one related to an insider) and it was disseminated so an accused (or a few select others) could either profit from it or seek relief from loss - in this case we have information being posted on one of the largest chat board companies, read by multi-thousands so hardly a select few others.
in otherwords, if an accused heard a rumor from the mill, or from someone, who "knew someone" per se, that could not qualify since there are rumors going around all the time about any number of things of supposed material company events - some of which turn out to be true and many which don't.
Second to that as I say, you would have to prove someone actually knew of the MATERIAL EVENT before the general public, rather than just someone who heard SOME news was to be released on such in such and such a timframe.
With regards to this specific case. While I don't have it handy, I'm quite sure I read one of the first posts in question and the delineation given was WITHIN A RANGE OF DAYS, not initially any SPECIFIC DAY. Yet as the timeline gets closer to the end of the range, that end then becomes "the day" in the estimation of the inferrer.
It is perfectly LEGAL for any shareholder (or non-shareholder) to call or communicate with their or a public company and seek understanding if any news may be coming out anytime soon. This actually happens quite often in the market - esp otc where companies are small. In that case the IR dept or any company officer is allowed to answer that general question. If the company representative of course answers with specific information ABOUT a material event yet to bre released to one shareholder, well, they have broken the law. There are all kinds of safe harbor words and phrases that can be used - one of which is "anticipates" or another "expects to" - neither of which are guaranteeing any certainties whatsoever. As long as the shareholder leaves with that general information and nothing more, it is up to them and their investing decisons what they would like to do with that information. It is still their risk either way since they do not know exactly what the event is.
So in addition to the first two criteria, you would also then have to prove neither of those safe harbor words or phrases were used (if an accused did indeed speak directly to a company or its representatives). If the accused merely spoke to someone such as a fellow trader/investor, or their associate, they are doing nothing illegal whatsoever - esp if they did not make any trading decisions whatsover subsequent to hearing the rumor.
But generally and to my knowledge by one post I read, what was initally diseminated here on this board was someone several days ahead, heard a PR was "expected to" come out BY a Monday - and that was what they reported they heard and inferred on a PUBLIC CHATBOARD. Another poster even replied they hoped it wasn't on Friday because they felt Monday was a better day for any news to be released no matter what the nes would be. Simple - that was their believe by what they were told and then of one who read it. imo
Not really sure of your agenda here, but to each his or her own. You do know this is OTC right and there are far worse criminal scams going on than someone hearing there might, should, or could be news coming within a timeframe (but not knowing the actual news)??
Well, happy Friday to ya. njoy! lol believe me I have zero idea why I just wasted my time writing this. Do what thou whilst my friend! My last post on the topic.
imo
Nice volume and range today - imo
$VPER News should be excellent here next week - so much on the table including new financing, big deals pending and MJ Sector news -any one of those will send this flying - imo
thx, the MJ Sector connection already just recently announced and on the table here creates huge potential! - imo
Yes, i agree looks like tons of big potential here! imo
Yep, and just wait until they announce their first MJ Sector client for fast grow marijuana (and/or hemp for that matter) - imo
plenty to be excited about here and much higher prices coming very soon - imo
$VPER solid trade and close today - imo
chart is really consolidated nicely and pps set up to move much higher now - imo
$5mil/mo revenue just on the Sri Lanka job and that's without any new MJ Sector business, which they are perfectly set up for and expanding into per their recent PR - imo
Also SS here one of the rare small ones among MJ Sector stocks - imo
$VPER wow, nice article giving revenue numbers! thx! imo
"To help illuminate this point and the total estimated agreement period, Viper Networks may fulfill orders totaling 200,000 LED street light units. However, based on the city's manpower capabilities, the Company is factoring monthly order delivery numbers of 10,000 to 15,000 units based on direct guidance from recent meetings with city officials.
This conveys an approximate period of 15 to 20 months to complete delivery and installation of all 200,000 LED street lights.
Further, interested parties should note that each LED Street Light is priced in the range of $500 to $1000 or more per unit depending on built-in options (i.e. camera, sensor, wireless remote). Based on the lower 10k number of units installed monthly at the minimum cost of $500 each, the gross amount would equal $5,000,000 (USD) per month."
http://www.ledlightsfromchina.com/article-2/7135.html
$VPER Very hot - imo "Although the Company first began developing the Fast Grow LED technology in Saudi Arabia for the purpose of creating abundant vegetation for livestock feed throughout the Middle East, global demand for faster vegetation/plant growth from other industry sectors has positioned Viper Networks for greater expansion into multiple sectors; including the rapidly developing market of legal marijuana growth and sales throughout the United States.
As investment options and funding in the cannabis industry continue to grow with government legalization and the emergence of retail marketplace, Viper Agriculture Technology is positioning itself to be a significant market competitor. In addition to international sales and pilot testing of its line of intelligent LED lighting solutions, the Company has endeavored to secure advance orders for its Fast Grow LED Systems throughout the Middle East for fast grow vegetation needs, as well as North America to capitalize on the twenty recently Legalized Medical Marijuana States.
"
ABOUT VIPER NETWORKS, INC.: Viper Networks, Inc. (in partnership with Apollo Metro) is a manufacturer and distributor of highly-efficient LED lighting to provide superior turnkey LED lighting solutions for metropolitan areas (streets and highways), parking lots and warehousing facilities anywhere. By combining LED Lighting, Wireless MESH, Sensors, Infrared and Video into a single design; Apollo Metro Solutions' propriety line of wireless products can be applied to existing infrastructure through streamlined system integration for a full selection of intelligent LED lighting solutions worldwide.
From Jan29 PR - imo
$VPER this looks ready and they already have MJ news out - imo
could easily be talking pennies+ here given the low ss - imo
who knows at this point but recent communications with the ceo say no or at least not in any meaningful way - imo
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=97493859
Well, that's fine, but he just messaged another poster today that his products are NOT hemp related whatsoever - imo
All I care about is that this play is identified for what it is - it is stem cell ONLY - per the ceo yesterday and now today - imo
If you like the stem cell co, and him and his obvious and proven tricks to raise dough, by all means enjoy -
this is my last post here - I wish everyone and their strategy the best of luck - imo
Good point - frankly though the whole timeline reeks of his hyping something false and that's all he ever intended - imo
and you're right, he won't risk his share selling scheme year to year on the hemp craze now with all the crack-downs - imo
$DEWM thaaareeee'ssss!!
train kept a rollin here! - imo
thank you I rest my case - and by way of that he now must also admit he scammed the market of Jan29 tweet AND by Sunday tweet saying it's going to be a big week - wtf??
this is a case where he got word or figured out the market thought he was hemp - and not only did he just let us believe what we wanted to believe, he added fuel to the mystery fire so he could easily raise all his dough for 2014 -
I mean really? saying a "startling announcement" and that turns out to be nothing but more "encouraging news" about how stem cells help horses race more (and with no papers to publish with the actual test proof)? shocking!
what he's done in misleading is in some way criminal actually - imo
$CLNP OK, if what you say is true, why not one word in either of the last two PR's about anything hemp related? Esp when he TWEETED in Jan29 about large hemp powder orders and buyers?? Esp when he was asked to bring that current by SEVERAL shareholders?!?
Not even one little four letter word h-e-m-p in ANY of the last two PRs? How come, if he is so related to Bruce??
He said on the phone yesterday the truth imo because he was confronted blindly. He is a stem cell company and that's it. If nothing else I appreciated his "honesty" finally - imo
even if it has come later after he has raised most of his cap while misleading the market - imo
Now, to be fair there's nothing wrong with wanting to invest in a stem cell company if that's what anyone chooses - and this pps may rise again one day based on the merit of his stem cell works -
I have no idea -
However best to keep it real now that this is no hemp or mmj play - he said it yesterday, it's stem cell and that's it - imo
$CLNP Normally I wouldn't trust a third party poster but in this case the conversation as presented was exactly in line with the PR and bs ceo released and the twitter nonsense - imo
Like I said yesterday when I very first saw the sequential twitter gap in the ceo's account from Dec5 to suddenly Jan29 when he unloaded that crap about large Hemp powder orders (which is what sent this stock pps up), I smelled bad fish but I went against my own intuition about it - imo Now it all adds up -
Then comes the PR's esp the last one where I believe for fact several pasters here sent him emails as shareholders requesting he SAY SOMETHING current about his relationship to $HEMP, Bruce, Hemp powder sales, orders, ANYTHING!
When nothing came yesterday, and the very fishy release time of 2AM???? and no link register on ihub site or even OTC lol, that's why I hit the sell button at 9:31AM -
When it all adds up to stinky, it's stinky - imo
$CLNP lol if we're keeping it real now based on what actually has happened -
while it may be true in some aspects from last year, it appears the relationship is nothing current - what this ceo said yesterday spoke volumes. He had not one thing to say about his company's relationship with $HEMP nor that they were working together of any kind. He's had two PR's to mention even one hint that they were working together and NADA - imo
Lewis said yesteray to a caller they were a stem cell company and that's it -
He said yesterday he knows Bruce but the Re-load.biz link on all $HEMPs PRs was just a "favor" he asked of Bruce - probably so he could sell more shares and raise more cap - which he has done plenty of!
the hemp dream appears to be over here thanks to a very dumb and probably senile old ceo - imo
I did not contact him another person did - imo
Where is even one mention of this in either of the last 2 PRs which both came out AFTER the tweet? imo
Ken Lewis?@ReloadCEO·Jan 29
Meeting tomorrow with a seller of Hemp powder. Have several large buyers looking to purchase product.
Nowhere is the answer. He made it appear as if he was going big into wholesaling/distributing Hemp/hemp powder because it was now hot -
He's a liar and this was highly misleading information imo
I don't think he divulged any relevant private company results information about the company other than just clarifying his postion on some questions that were valid questions concerning his use of the words "startling announcement" - where he clarified he made a mistake (which I do not believe since it is clear he has been raising money ever since his Jan29 tweet about Hemp powder buyers) - and why his company link is in $HEMP PR's - imo
hmmm, where is that Hemp powder buyer bit even mentioned in either of the last PR's? If it was legit, do you mean he couldn't even say in a PR paragraph something like, "and as I tweeted last week, I remain in talks with a large buyer of Hemp powder and..."
Yes he could have, but I do not believe it was legit now - imo
Well, best anyone can do is call the guy themselves - personally I suspect he will provide the exact same answers as they all sounded all to plausible given all the facts and today's PR - imo
And as going by what I see now on twitter it all adds up - At first I was leary about this huge gap in his consecutive tweets but now it makes all the sense in the world:
Ken Lewis?@ReloadCEO·Jan 29
Meeting tomorrow with a seller of Hemp powder. Have several large buyers looking to purchase product.
Expand ?Reply
Ken Lewis?@ReloadCEO·Dec 6
@pizpiel @ReloadCEO
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The trail of this one has all the earmarks of a familiar concoction in otc - imo
I disagree - it's the ceo has been caught playing shareholders with misleading information in tweets and PR's -
Are you kidding me right now? A ceo of a public company uses the phrase "startling announcement" in a PR, and tweets about large Hemp powder buyers - and then today says he made a mistake and shouldn't have used that language - AFTER he's been cap raising the past two weeks since said PR was released?
It's not uncommon in this game but there you have it -
Further, he's printing PRs about clinical trials and where are the official viewable results in either case to substantiate his claims? Not cool IF you are as he says a "stem cell company" - imo
In case you missed it someone here had a conversation with the ceo today and the results are not pretty and contrary to what the ceo has been feeding the market -
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=97452383
He now says the link on $HEMP PRs is" "oh yeah he did that as a favor to me." what the heck is that supposed to mean lol -
Also I just looked at his tweets and now lately he's only tweeting about current product discounts - believe it, he's raised all his capital and now could care less about what the pps will be -
he is a slick one - imo
sad
$CLNP good work getting to the bottom of his shenanigans -
The parts that piss me off are the tweets - saying he was talking to large hemp powder buyers and then tweeting it's going to be a big week last Sunday. On a Sunday no less and he sure enough sold right into that tweet last Monday morning when the stock gapped up -
I just hate being played and that's what this clown has been doing - imo
$CLNP NO, it's not a hemp play, it's a stem cell play ONLY per the trickster ceo -
he said so himself today - imo
He's stupid, what can you say. He's never heard of medical marijuana and he obviously is too dumb and has no intentions about capitalizing on the Hemp boom -
game is over here while he continues to sell his a$$ off imo -
$CLNP this comment is startling in of itself: "I'm sure it's my fault for using the word startling." -
Huh? This quote from the ceo says it all. He's no stranger to this game and he played stupid here. He knew exactly what he was saying and doing - there was no mistake -
wished you could have asked him why he 1. was tweeting a business tweet ON SUNDAY (last) saying it was "going to be a very big week" and 2. Why he tweeted out about major Hemp powder buyers on Jan29? - IF, as he says, "HE'S ONLY A STEM CELL COMPANY" -
What a joke. All the selling last week says everything - he knew he needed to raise money but had no real Hemp/Mj news so he faked it - wow
what a shame, had so much promise here - imo
He thinks his stock is going up? Not when investors realize he blatantly tricked them here - sad - imo
still could pan out up the road if this guy ever wakes up and realizes what day/year it is -
will keep on close watch but as for now, this ceo is not playing ball and that has to keep me on the sidelines - it's a shame b/c this pps today should be breaking .005/.006 right about now - imo
me either - and going by the 100bil new a/s he's going for the record that no one will ever beat - imo
sad when he could have had a pennies++ pps right now and sold slow - imo
$DEWM That's it, up almost another full penny today -
climb you SOB, climb!! imo