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I really can't see it being that extreme this time with the os so high- but several hundred percent seems very possible and almost likely, with this setup
Of course the os was pretty darn big that time it ran so high, too, though - so who knows
imo
cowi
Agreed, when they let it go it could run so high, it could be nuts like last time
I can't remember for sure but I think it was something like 0005 and ran up to something like 0079
Just crazy
go cowi
I love scottrade, so much
Nearly as much as I loved my exes before they were an awful human being
And that is a lot
When you bought the ten, the NITE ask descreased in size by several million- which means VNDM is finally turning off the spigot for now (I think)
Very very good to see that
I want to see my lunch money become escape this horrible town money :D
Go cowi
Were you the 10M buy? Most of it seemed to come off of NITE instead of VNDM- that is a good sign (I know NITE is mostly real because I always see my scottrade orders routed through it)
GO COWI
I don't know much about twitter
Is that like facebook pretty much?
cowi
If I'm wrong I'll lose some of my lunch money but if I'm right I'll make a lot so what the heck
Reasons I can see to buy
1. Most of the trading volume lately is almost always at the top of the range it's trading in
2. The 100 share paints were relentless yesterday- SOMEONE wants to dissuade us from buying this
3. Lately I always see nearly 1 BILLION demand on the bid side for shares of this
4. I've seen COWI looking almost exactly like this before and it ran so many percentage points one couldn't keep track of it with an adding machine
5. I never see very many shares for sale on the ask, retail shares that is
Concerns I have
1. Huge outstanding number of shares
2. VNDM hanging out on the ask not allowing it to uptick
Even as huge as the os is though- look at the past couple weeks volume- it has ALL traded in my opinion- it did 1.26 BILLION volume in ONE DAY, many other days it has done 100s of millions
Just yesterday it did 800 million volume- 90% of which was BUYS- even the huge T Trade that showed up later was a BUY - all while showing TWO CENT fake sells all day long
Something is going on here
I can stand to lose some of my lunch money if I have to- but there were just too many reasons to BUY and I couldn't resist. This is a potential power keg here.
Is market makers being short and holding prices low in order to cover a myth? I don't know. Short volume tells me nothing and I do not know how to distinguish that from actual short positions which are open.
Is the company diluting? I say, of course. If they are- would they want to let it uptick? Absolutely- the buying pressure is there, retail sell orders are thin as they can be...
Which brings me back to the 100 share sells in the face of 100s of millions in BUYS yesterday- all day- relentlessly
Sure is interesting trying to figure all of this out. I love this.
ALL IN MY OPINION
Good luck everyone ;)
Go cowi
I did as well-
Worst case scenario at this point, sell back into the ONE BILLION twos on the bid and lose 33% --- best case scenario with all of this demand it could easily run way the heck up and be a 300% or more gain
With all of the demand and how thin the three and four and five retail is ---- it is:
Worth a shot
It is up to VNDM to decide how high it goes
Not sure I believe in shorts trying to cover or whatever that nonsense is about, but,
The 100 share paints all day yesterday convinced me to buy some more
I wish I knew how to tell short VOLUME from actual short POSITIONS- we can see short volume- how can I find out how much is actual short POSITIONS? No one seems to know
all imo
go cowi
I think cowi is the best stock ever since I have some shares in my opinion
LoL
But seriously the demand is outrageously huge and I KNOW 100 share sell paints in the middle of 100s of millions in BUYING had to mean something yesterday
And I see that if you look at the past days where it hit twos, the twos were tiny trades and the lion's share of the real volume was in threes and fours ... see for yourself on the charts
I almost have to think that two MMs are at war here
This is if nothing else INTERESTING
The guy who runs the company I truly believe has good intentions and that is really saying something coming from ME- that said- I sure hope eve hasn't bitten the apple, if you know what I mean¿
All imo
IMO
GO COWI
Still seeing absolutely huge demand on the bid side
I would hope if VNDM has so many shares for sale he would let this breathe and uptick- HE IS SETTING THE PRICE- that I am all but sure of
It upticks as much as he will allow
In my opinion but am I wrong?
LII and prints all day yesterday and today prove it
Between him holding the ask down and the 100 share 2 cent sell paints all day yesterday I am almost beginning to believe in "shorts holding it down"
When vndm is off of there it is VERY thin on the ask side at every level I have seen
All imo
go cowi
I don't know for sure what the 100 share paints yesterday meant but if they're trying to dilute it to hell why was the sell painting happening- they'd want the price higher, would't they?
Go cowi ;)
Did anyone ever figure out why they were painting the tape with 100 share sells ALL DAY yesterday?
Also VNDM keeps holding this down by hanging out on the ask side
If and when he gets off of there and lets it breathe this could go to 0014 fast
imo
Go COWI
I see this sometimes - one of the notorious V's will be on there with their infinite 10k ask
Then when they are done selling it goes NUTS and real high
PS: This is the last post I'm allowed today, if someone could post a screenshot of the 100 share prints continually going off one tick under- and the HUGE demand on LII --- a lot of people might be interested to see that
It tells the whole story, in my opinion
Go cowi !!
They keep doing the 100 share prints trying to bring it down
I am beginning to believe in MM accumulation tactics
HUGE DEMAND - Nearly ONE BILLION shares being bid on-- that is just unreal
They cannot hold it down as far as I can gather.. the 100 share prints trying to bring the price down tell the story if you ask me
Even if they sell like **** into that, they can't have that many, look at the billions in recent volume
Running out of posts now though but I will be watching :)
Good luck to everyone!
All in my opinion!
GO COWI
I've seen this thing run so many percentage points I needed an adding machine to count them ... it did it once .... they often repeat the cycle a year or two later ....... no guarantees in life but death and my ex being a horrible person and taxes ;)
Huge recent volume
Always huge huge beyond huge demand lately
All in my opinion of course since I have to say that :P
Go Cowi
Again, 100 share THREE CENT prints one tick lower- those keep going off- who wants this to come down for a minute? Is that a retail guy or the Market Makers? I don't know how to tell
There's no way they can hold this thing down with that much demand
I don't see it being possible
IMO
GO COWI
This is unreal - I see almost 700M on the bid side!! Less than 90M collectively on the ask
Just unreal
I've never seen anything like this
Supply and demand I guess is what trading is all about
And we have DEMAND here
This could go like they said on here back in the day "COWI TO THE MOON"
COWI
Go cowi ;)
In the middle of HUGE BUYING @ 0004 I keep seeing 100 share @ 0003 prints.. 3 cent prints... hilarious
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PS:
I hear ya
Thanks for the messages, you both said essentially the same thing I I couldn't agree more: I'm watching key levels and gauging the actual buying pressure-- but I only have 400k shares anyway so it's worth a shot at a run :) I appreciate what you are saying and you're right
This could go ballistic (I can't believe I just used a kids word)
This is ridiculous
Still huge demand on the bid
Still thin on the ask
GO
COWI
ADORABLE TRICKERY - fours being bought the **** out of and they print a 100 share sale .. a three cent trade ... at 0003 .. things that make you go:
HMM
Go cowi
Agreed- when all of the normal people finally find out: BLAM
cowi
Exactly
Every time I ever look at LII lately it's always 10x as much on the bid (or close to it) than on the ask... I didn't see how it COULD NOT uptick at least SOME (depending one how many the powers that be have to sell off on top of us, of course :)
GO COWI
Wow so the news hit and BLAM
So as the day progresses and more and more normal people finally are allowed to have a lunch break or touch their telephones or computers BLAM .... more and more buying pressure .. glad I got in, I think!!
GO COWI
Fours back on the ask but THIN
So much demand on the buying side
WHERE is this buying pressure coming from?
Never seen such a thing in a LONG time
GO COWI
WoW!! Threes got bought BLAM
Fours up and looking thin!!!
PS: WoW AGAIN
Threes went, huge buys of fours and they're gone ... now FIVES UP
cowi cowi cowi
Darn :( I'm top bid over here and no one will sell to me :(
Another good old OTC STANDOFF type thing
I see all buys thus far
Good luck everyone :)
GO COWI
Logical summation. Got ya.
Deduction yup! Say what?
Can't wait for more news. Me too
This is interesting to watch it unfold
I think XzX actually has a point about them downplaying positives in the PR
I think that anything they say in releases of any news ever before has been pure lies (think knife blades inside of carrots)
I think that there apparently is no bottom recently
I think that the huge volume and still managing to hold any reasonable level at all is amazing
I think this will probably run up without me
I think no one really KNOWS what happened
Did ADR buy wgas, did WGAS buy ADR, I've seen it printed both ways in many places
I know for sure that if the millions on millions in assets are sold for 50K and 70M toilet paper shares and that's all there is to it then I will eat my hat
I think if the o/s increases are NOT dilution- how in the name of god did it trade such massive volume and NOT UPTICK TO THE MOON then... ? Good question AIN'T IT
ALL IN MY OPINION
Yeah the demand and volume have been absolutely huge for as long as I've been watching it
And who could forget that massively huge run back in the day
That was really a something, for sure
These stupid pinks run when you least expect it sometimes
Go COWI
I can't understand what you are writing half of the time when you come up with a post to cause
"their one in the same" means that wgas and agr have merged and are one company now, is what you are saying?
Alternative tech angle is not a new thing in kansas
I've been hearing about this ponce lease being reworked for a long time, something about carbon dioxide gas being used.. They guy telling me about it is often full of **** but, who knows
You never know
Now WHY did adams let go of all of that for 70M essentially worthless shares and 50K
That is the interesting question
He wanted a shell to go public with
Fine
That makes it worth at most 500k what he got
IF he owns and controls everything now
IF
Who controlled what
Did the debt holders make volk sell it
Does volk have something on adams ?
As far as I know VOLK is in FULL CONTROL
With the rats nest of a cluster **** of different "information" out there all I can say is that I do not know **** and who does?
Does look like a potential powder keg
Come on, SOMEONE out there must want to sell some stock... :(
I have a few hundred bucks right here for you.. sell to me some sharezzzzzz
You can see me right there on LII
NITE looking for 400k
I have a bid in for 400k @ 0017
Only bids above me are a couple 100k size
Why is it so tough to buy this stock?
I was high bidder several times yesterday and no one would sell **** to me
Sell some stock to me, stubborn!!!!
I'll hang around awhile
I have $100 worth
Huge demand on the bid, hundreds of millions and many
Absolutely HUGE volume in the past few weeks
Pretty small amount on offer most of the time
I don't know what the *** ******* at the switches might be up to but I'll take the chance
It's 100 bucks
Who cares
GO COWI
Thank you for the synopsis, but my eyes are so sore from being awake for so long, it is too late for me to do any reading... this evening .. does this mean that the delinquent status will be lifted?
Because, then, I may have taken a small position at a less than awful time
Also,
How much more dilution? How much can be left with this recent volume? It's more volume than the whole o/s (as recent a figure as I can see)
Of course
There's NEVER an end to dilution (SOMETIMES) .... :)
So, who wants to be the first to pay me $163 to drive out there and get some photographs and ask all kinds of questions and all of that , then?
It is 143 miles from me, independence, so you'll have to throw in a AAA membership since my car is old and I may never return again without one
Forget it
Never mind
Can't stop the government neither
Go ahead
Get with it WGAS
You are boring us, now