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a well and thought out perspective on an investment you are emotionally involved with. not the usual pumping hyperbole from posters that state the company can do no wrong. when it comes to making an investing decision in a company like ariad, ones perspective can get clouded spending to much time on a message board where most are looking at their investment through rose colored glasses.
have to say, thats a good observation.
so you are saying manipulation exists!
Hey vid, when it is you said we should be getting out of this funk again?
Which will add to more wacky swings
as longs, we've endured with this stock for a while. at what age do you want to reap the reward your looking for? not saying you personally, but i'm sure most longs would like the price to to reach that magical # they have been waiting for, at a quicker pace, rather than a slower pace (similar to an onxx style pop). hope that clears things up, about the slow climb being unfortunate for longs.
are they saying their price target is $37 by 2016??? that seems way to low at this stage. please tell me i'm reading it wrong.
hope you are correct. your guess is as good as any.
with beating expectations once again, it makes you wonder why the price has not relatively changed since the beginning of the year. what do the so called experts know that this board doesn't?
I've been hearing complaints about rachel all year long. yet the stock price has not proven her modest price targets wrong throughout 2014. hhmmm?
Thats to bad about her target. Shes usually astute with her PO predictions
Its for you or anyone else to take it as you want. Not that important. Keep to your shtick. Its all about the money anyhow.
thats fine misterc. just my opinion on agendas from strangers, on a free for all message board. especially when money is involved. thats why i check in from time to time...money...and nothing else.
most, if not all on this board knows exactly how ariad has fared throughout the years. nothing new there. but seeing this is a FREE message board, stating whats already known or opinions, is evidently welcomed. and unless its deemed unfit and other wise deleted, its still a free message board, for strangers to spew there personal agendas.
unfortunately for longs, anyone that has been following this stock, should realize that unless a pop in price occurs, from lets say, a buy out rumor...it seems that ariad, will most likely have a slower, but steady climb, up. conference calls usually do not escape big time investors scope of the good, bad, or ugly truth before its announced. price is usually factored in, before the call takes place. but reflecting back at previous calls performances...i'm sure most knew that.
really? you haven't noticed the constant pumping from the same posters? you want to talk about agendas? how about the same few that repeat themselves no matter the direction of the stock price? praise when the price goes up, excuses when it goes down. can ariad as a company ever have a hiccup? this board wants to believe that its superior over the yahoo posts, but you get slammed when forming a thought that is not taking the pumpers side. though i'm sure you share the same goals as everyone on this board, what you said makes sense. and is necessary when making rational judgements. something to think about the next time you hear a broken record saying, dont worry, we will be fine in 6 months.
the confidence in this stock, seems to be increasing. this has been the longest stretch in a while, that we haven't dipped back to the low point, from which we started.
looks as though there may be less shares trading hands as of late. people may not want to let go the shares they have. possibly holding out for something bigger?
how much longer until the market factors in these potentials?
can a conference like ash really bring about a new development concerning ariad? the way i see it, if good news towards ariad was presented at ash, i suspect that certain piece of development would already have made its way in to the market. which wouldn't be bad, because either way the price would climb. I just think anything presented at ash will already be factored in. so if the news is really worthy of a new trajectory upwards, i think it will take place days or weeks before ash.
i've read your posts expressing your opinions about ariads stock breaking out after ash/december multiple times now. you may may very well be right, with your confident level being so high on the matter. I just find it hard to believe that ariads stock (or any stock for that matter), can be so easily determined, as to when its time to make money. do you think the rest of the trading market is gearing up for the same timetable. would you guess thats also the reason why these wild price swings have been occurring for the last few months?
bouncing off 18.75?...i think one of my recent posts sums it up.
glad to read that someone is not taking ariads near term potential lightly.
you can express the opinions and statements you find value in, as i'll express the opinions and statements i find valuable.
keep in mind, no matter what is being said, most here including myself, are waiting for a higher valuation. so we all share similar goals.
excuse my wording if you did not get what i meant. what i was saying, is that it shouldn't matter to you how many years "I" have owned, or at what %.
doesnt matter how many years i have owned, or at what % i am up, does it? I have not sold yet, which means i have not reached "my" topper most of the popper most.
as a long, there should always be a concern when dealing with market expectations. those quarterly figures you mention, have already made the rounds with the higher ups of the company, and most likely, the higher ups of the trading market. the unfortunate reality is, that its money we're dealing with. and when dealing with money, people will go to extreme measures to obtain it...so yeah, there should be a concern.
its also frustrating with these swings, because its really not just another speculative company at this stage. market cap is at 3+bill for a reason. there is now a lingering hint of success that could come out in the form of a sudden surge in sales, rumored buyout interests, a new and promosing discovery, just to name a few. yet it acts as if it just entered the field of discovering new medicines... in some ways, being toyed with.
that seems fair enough!
when owning x amounts of shares in ariad, its amazing to me how fast one can loose thousands of dollars in a weeks time. and this has been happening time and time again this year. with such wild swings, it often doesnt seem like its real money in my account that evaporates so fast. I've never been able to spend or save, the amount of money thats thrown around in my account, when owning ariad stocks...which sux, because i do think of what i could have bought or done, with the amount of money i lose.
there are longs that would like ariad to remain as a stand alone company. with their pipeline matured over the next two years, the share price should be higher as the company becomes more positioned in the bio-field. a buyout always seems to bring a higher offer to the share price no matter where that current price would be hovering. So would it be safe to say, that no matter how big ( $$$ wise) ariad may get, at some point, shouldn't a true long want the company to be scooped up to get an extra pop in share price?
whats yours or anyone else's take with that?
big pharmas pulling out of onxx bid. thinking their share price to be to high for where they're at. aria seems to be getting stronger as to where they're at. big pharmas should definitely be in the know of ariads rising potential. possibly holding onto their money to keep an eye out for potentials like ariad.
ariad giving back there gains they made on friday. some one(s) must have made some real good money in the past few days. Manipulating 101.
when entering the aria symbol to look up the stocks valuation these days, one can almost feel as if we are looking up a stock that is on the verge of success and promise. A soon to be success story, that can not simply be taken lightly anymore.
although those finds are good for down the road, i wish for once, that a good find could affect the stocks price today (at the present).
$130 per share in the year 2024?!?! if thats the case, then really congrats to true longs!...wow...
we broke 20 last week. and now were fighting between 18 and 19. are you saying we need to break 20 from a certain situation to be off to the races?
Just trying to keep things in perspective.
not likely. as you stated, q2 is in the books. that information is already available for privileged investors. just like q1 #s, and europe acceptance. such events have already been taken into account. lifting target expectations from the so called analysts, will do nada for the stock price. Company needs more of a robust event to turn this "Official 2013 P.O.S. stock" upwards.
the best thing to happen for ariads stock price this year, was an offering made to another company...go figure...
how does that comment sound right? this isn't ariad in the summer of 2000. your esentially agreeing that ariad has not changed enough in the last 14 years of summer. hence keeping with the same pattern as they had, when there was nothing more than speculation. When do you think that pattern should break? when they have an approved drug on the market?...Oh, wait a minute, they do.
if that summer pattern is a give me, all longs who by and hold would be considered amateurs, by not taking advantage of making money in ariad during the summer swoon months. Patterns eventually break one way or the other. If it hasn't yet, shame on me.
Has anyone noticed, if ariad did not benefit on monday from the onxx deal, the amount of down days that could possibly have occurred, in the last three weeks of trading?! not only is it quite an alarming # of negative days, but how low could the price have gone to? for a company with so much promise, this stock defies common trading practice from the market...just saying.