Lol...hey roxvox

...I know I know

...I agree with you

...I just read his post and I actually laughed

...was kinda arrogant and funny

...Mylife

LOL...I don't agree with this


...but I'm not gonna lie...pretty funny and clever comeback

...Mylife

really nice post r2g2

...just really nice...nothing else to say

...and I think many of us here...including myself...agree with this completely

...Mylife

I like how you signed this with your

...Real name

...Long

...and no it wasn't a word in a sentence...you capitalized Long...and put it after a comma separated from the sentence intentionally

...what was your name again...Long122 or something like that?

...Mylife

At that point


...you and everyone's grandma will be bullish

...you think you enlighten people...but you just state the obvious

..."guys what you don't understand is that I am waiting for good numbers to think this is a good company"..."it's complicated but that is my game plan"

...I've said it before and I will say it again...you are taking a Warren Buffett investing approach to this penny stock...that in and of itself shows something about your understanding of this stock...Warren Buffett wouldn't touch this or any other penny stock...maybe you shouldn't either...check back in one year and see if we are above a dollar...if we are then this stock will be suitable for your investment style

...Mylife

Once again you should get your facts right


...before you start yappin

..."beating down the stock"...when did I say I disagreed with this...to the contrary...I have been saying exactly that

...my point was you only see the downside

...I see both and call both

...if all you say is negative all the time...then have fun being right 50% of the time

...last time I checked that's an F in class

...have fun with that

...fundamentals or hype?...both exist...which do I prefer?...irrelevant...how to identify both and call them correctly...completely relevant

...you're wrong...I'm right...you lose...I win

...and I guess if we are keeping score as you suggested...then it's 3 points me...0 you...the points are some what arbitrary kind of like your comebacks

...Mylife

you are losing this debate


...and you don't debate very well because you don't check your facts before you say something and/or your definition of things is so far removed from everyone else's that it's just laughable

...so you call a 3 month run up a "BUMP"...LOL please dude

...and you also call this bump "WORTHLESS"...say that to the guy who missed a 5 to 10 bagger from below .001 to over .007 listening to your sound advice..."don't worry guys...disregard this worthless bump we are about to hit...it's truly meaningless"

...you never know when to admit you're wrong

...I've seen you do this with others...and I have seen you do it with me

...cant wait to read your reply to this...well by BUMP I meant this...and by WORTHLESS I meant that...LOL

...Mylife

that is absolutely untrue


...it has changed directions before from below .001 to over .007 on absolutely no NUMBERS and by your definition no FUNDAMENTAL change

...BUT it did

...and you will miss it again because you're being to simple in your approach

...you called a downturn by yapping it when it wasn't true and when it was true...you're going to get it right 50% of the time

...I called both

...my question stands

...I already know your position...you will wait for numbers...that doesn't mean anything...can you call the move before it happens...that does mean something...your talk is boring and doesn't show you really understand all the moving parts...you are just spectating waiting for the obvious...then what?...you buy in at a much higher price?

...will you be able to call it before the move?...that is the question...not what your simple position is

...Mylife

You forgot something


...Asher and therefore "Asher traders" essentially get a 40% discount to low fair market value because either you are Asher with the discount or you are an "Asher trader" trading off of information as to what price Asher is buying at therefore having an unfair advantage knowing where the "Asher PPS" is and trading accordingly

...they need to hurry up with numbers...otherwise this Asher situation is going to drag this stock down even further

...I honestly feel bad for whoever bought a bunch at .0043 today

...in the long term the purchase will be fine...however there is going to be some short term pain

...today was not a good PR...it was a mixed bag...exactly what I thought would happen...good for paying Asher 100%...bad for everything else...including bad for not explaining how we are even able to pay Asher 100%...my guess is people wouldn't want to know how we are doing that as it would probably have a negative affect on the PPS...because obviously it is not from selling goods yet

...today's PR caused a quick spike...someone got suckered...now back to flat

...I am still long...but this is seriously irritating...and as a long I feel it right for me to always say what is on my mind as it relates to SNEY...and even after arguing with you...I did call the negative turn on the stock because of what I saw on the horizon...and you didn't call it on the upswing...the only question between you and me is this...will you miss the next upswing or will you be able to read things before they hit?

...will you be willing to be "contrary" against your pessimism when the time is right?

...Mylife

I agree

...and at that point my prediction of .001 - .0017 will probably become a reality

...something below .0025 for sure

...I say give them all of June and wait to be disproved

...but after that...I think I will be right...just hope I'm not right too soon...and preferably not right at all

...there is a difference between believing in a stock and knowing how to judge a PPS

...I believe in SNEY...but that doesn't mean it's worth a dollar a share

...lets go SNEY...you have June to figure out your PPS problem just like you have figured out everything else...your shareholders are and have been patiently waiting

...Mylife

did you mean to say something to me here?

...if so...nothing came through

...try again

...Mylife

And you're right


...that was a secondary question to answer

...the primary question was simply what actually happened

...the very fact none of us know means the topic was never fully answered...and that all by itself I don't like

...clean up the past so we can move forward with the future...nobody on this team should have ANY ISSUE speaking openly about the past unless there is still something to hide

...either the sands are there or they're not...and which ever answer is given leads to follow up questions

...I for one would trust current management (which I already do trust quite a bit)...a whole lot more if they can speak openly about the past...there is nothing legally prohibiting them from speaking on this topic...in fact there are probably reasons why they should have to disclose this info to shareholders

...Mylife

True...but still would like to know that we have it


...because if that is what we pulled out of that area...then why would we expect something different to come out of the ground now

...either we can process it or we cant yet

...still worth answering a question from the past...so as to help us evaluate future projections at least in that area

...there answer could be...yep it is still sitting there...just cant process it

...ok fine...then answer this question then...are we expecting larger pieces through a different method or different depth (which could make sense)...but at least provide an explanation of the past...and game plan for the future

...Mylife

That sounds exactly right to me

...or pretty damn close

...that is roughly what I remember as well

...but still...that was our gold...albeit gold stuck in blacksands...shouldn't we have processed it by now?

...I mean if we have dredgemaster and the equipment why not?

...and if we cant separate that easy stuff with this team...how do we expect to do anything else? just wouldn't make any sense

...the only thing that would make sense is if it was hauled off if we lost possession of the claim to the land it was sitting on...and I guess that we did lose our license temporarily if I remember correctly...but then who would have known to come grab it...where it was...and what was in it...making it worth the time and money to pick it up...move it...and process it...I still would smell insider involvement...I am sure that report was worth a pretty penny at the time...and turned over to the right guys who could actually process those blacksands would have probably paid whoever showed them the location and report very well

...otherwise the sands should be roughly where they left it...I have piled up dirt etc before on projects and have let it sit for years...it doesn't just blow away...and no they specifically said it wasn't right next to the river to flow away...it was stockpiled further inland

...Mylife

I have an idea


...maybe an answer to my own question

...we could just ask Steve Parent

...he is still here (which means he is probably innocent of any wrong doing if any was done)

...and two...he was around when everyone else left so he probably knows the whole story...if he said otherwise I would honestly have a hard time believing that

...so who is making the phone call?

...maybe we all should to show true group concern

...Mylife

I actually laughed at this one

...pretty funny reply

...go SNEY

...here is another post towards the breakout board

...Mylife

LOL...pretty funny day of posts


...pretty amusing and we did well on the breakout board because of it

...honest real question though for everyone...would love to hear both sides answer

...whatever did happen to the 600 ounces of gold

...I don't care if it is Africa...I know I wouldn't lose track of 600 ounces of gold...either I would know the bank vault it was in...or it would be in my back pack on my way to Vegas...either way accounted for...just being honest

...and if no one here knows the answer...which one of us is going to find out?...regardless of what is happening now...this is a old question that needs some answering...especially because some of the old players (like Steve Parent) are still involved in the company

...waiting patiently to here from the board

...Mylife

I would answer your question like this


...by using a letter grade

...if SNEY even pulls a D+ on production/revenue this stock will pop up pretty hard

...why?

...for 2 main reasons

...first...the vast majority of penny stocks are assumed to FAIL...and by simply not failing the stock would pop up

...second...as long as we receive even slightly screwed up numbers...at least then we will have a production/revenue foundation to build from...and the assumption would be at that point that production/revenue would only get better into the future...because theoretically our worst numbers should be our first...and the market is a forward looking machine...so a D+ would feel more like a B-...and when we actually get to say a B it will feel like an A+++ forward looking

...good luck...we just need even slightly crappy numbers...as long as the numbers aren't completely dead or near dead

...Mylife

right on man

...sounds good...whatever sits well with you is all that matters

...and obviously I was joking around any way

...but so you know...it actually has dipped intraday for a brief half hour down to .0025

...just not sure if that was it...or if there is more pain ahead...I actually have my feelings but not ready to say yet

...Mylife

Unless the info is from me


...muhahahahahahahaha

...sorry...had to joke

...usually honest people cant hold back from swearing and telling a joke here and there

...we live in a jacked up world...all you can do sometimes is smile and fight back

...my biggest dream...is I hope I smile when I die

...then and only then will I be completely satisfied with myself

...Mylife

hey Fang

...just realized my message says incorrectly 2014

...make it 2015

...and we are still on target for .02+ by mid to very late summer

...probably more on the end of summer side

...good luck

...Mylife

this is the 10 cent message Fang

...just click on the message I am replying to here

...good luck

...Mylife

yes I do stand by all my statements


...but I also gave a range in my statement

...so mid summer would probably be the earliest

...when I feel comfortable narrowing the range I will

...good luck

...Mylife

Thx 4 the message Jim


...guys like you, me, Riskon, Bali, etc can hold through the ups and downs hoarding a large stockpile of SNEY shares

...but I figured I'd keep it real in the short term for these guys on iHub...because I think in the end...it will be iHub SNEY followers that make a significant shareholder foundation for SNEY...and if all these guys get in at the right price and/or average down...then we are all stronger as a team

...rather these shares be in their hands and at a cheaper price...than in the hands of NON-iHub...at least here we know what people think

...people should be buying anywhere from .003 to .001 without even thinking much...and that is not to say above .003 is not a good deal...because either way...if you can hold...you're golden and sparkly (gold and diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiamonds)

...Mylife

the latter


...which will also cause the former

...which will be followed by a further trend higher

...all in time

...Mylife

Thx 4 acknowledging my call


...it was a hard one to make

...and I don't like talking negative (even in the short term)

...but I knew it was the right call nonetheless

...but we will be fine after the dust settles

...and then it is show time

...Mylife

This is exactly what I thought

...and this is also when I became slightly concerned for the short term

...seemed like a nervous insecure reaction (and more specifically...a reaction that seemed to be kind of directed to iHub shareholders...in fact many things seem to be reactions lately directly to iHub...since when did we become that important?...and if our opinion means that much then I am not sure I like that)

...this is what I read that I didn't like in the Q...and I kind of expected a mixed-slightly negative bag

(quote 1) "From day 181 till maturity, the note may be converted by the note holder at a 44% discount to the average of the three lowest trading days in the ten days prior to notice of conversion"

(quote 2) "Our principal sources of funds have been from sales of our common stock and we expect this to be consistent for at least the next twelve months."



...and in 3 months we added 73,620,688 shares to the OS...at that rate we would dilute at about -15% per year (unless offset by something...which is the hope of course)

couple that with PP ranging between .001 - .003 and warrants between .002 - .004 (makes the short term kind of tricky)

Good Luck to you Risk

...Mylife

Not to mention


...that this entire market is due for a severe correction in the near future when FATCA hits...and our reserve status gets hammered...and SDR sees the light for the first time as global currency

...this will, along with others, affect SNEY

...it is all in the timing

...Mylife

I think you took what I said wrong

...I agree with you...that would be illegal


...that is not what I am saying

...what I am saying is that I think they know (at least for now)...the filings will be a mixed bag...and expectations are likely to fall short...however in the long run expectations will be met (mid to late summer)

...I wasn't talking about withholding info...I was talking about "knowing" the info that you are about to provide...and knowing the likely effects of that info hitting the market

...I expect a mixed bag

...and I expect a mixed bag reaction (which usually means down to a safe bottom)...which is what I stated

...good luck to you as well

...so what was irrelevant to me...was whether or not this happens...or we just go straight to .02

...either way SNEY wins in the end

...Mylife

either way it is irrelevant to me


...whether it happens or not

...I stand by my call by mid+ summer

...Mylife

I disagree


...this wouldn't require them to do anything illegal

...simply release...or not release info...and "if" the pps reacts by way of market participants...then so be it

...that is exactly what has been happening...nothing illegal about it

...and I feel it will continue

...this is in part what longs stomach...the ebb and flow of it all

...Mylife

LOL

...you want contradictory

...well here you go

...I am, of course, PRO-SNEY

...however...I believe the current pps will be smashed (and has been smashed) temporarily down to below .0025 before blowing up far past .01 during the summer (probably mid to late summer)

...why?...because that is the leaderships strike price to exercise

...price goes past .0025 on good news too quickly without materializing (it is good news but it is being timed)

...I am pretty sure the filings, PRs, etc in the next 30 days will not meet expectations...pps will fall...leadership will buy back in under .0025 (probably anywhere between .001 - .0017)

...and then it is showtime

...and honestly...the insiders deserve it in my opinion...mainly dredge and hale

...I have complete faith SNEY will reach far past .01 but I think the pps has and will be played with first...to their advantage...and rightfully so

...Mylife

R U INVESTED IN SNEY?

...if so...why would you be invested in such a poorly run company

...if not...then why are you here...especially as a moderator

...either way...illogical



...you still have never answered this question

...and if you ever do answer it...make sure you BACK IT UP


...Mylife

Dredge can you private message me


...actually I do have one hypothetical question

...one you can answer without disclosing anything

...if someone was new to SNEY

...what deadline would you give them to buy into SNEY

...a date or timeframe would be great

...thx dredge

...Mylife

Completely Agree


...if this was someone else giving their OPINION without disclosing ANYTHING...whilst keeping all their yapping related to SNEY


...then there wouldn't have been a deletion...and for that matter a mass deletion


...nowhere in IHUB rules does it say anything about "here are the rules for everyone...BUT...if we think you are special or an insider then we will apply special hidden rules"

...I have just been reminded why I stopped posting here

...follow the rules admins...and UNDELETE the DELETIONS

...someone unscrew this

...Mylife

actually I do have one hypothetical question

...one you can answer without disclosing anything

...if someone was new to SNEY

...what deadline would you give them to buy into SNEY

...a date or timeframe would be great

...thx dredge

...Mylife

LOL please

...I saw the site down earlier today when I was talking here

...here is the info


WHOIS information for sunergygold.com:**

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Registrar URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
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...this used to happen all the time to me over the years with my company...I would just forget to renew until it prompted me like this...and to boot Steve Parent is contact person...so he probably wasn't on top of it...no big deal...they will find out now that its down...they will call wildwestdomains and pay their small fees and its done (whether it be renewal or hosting...either way its not that much)

...Mylife

agree


...and I almost put gov, regulatory agencies, bureaus, etc (but I got lazy writing...just meant all entities that are responsible for making others follow their stupid little rules


...and my feeling is that any LARGE entity attempting to have its minions follow something need to give it ample time...usually favoring too much time (obamacare, SS benefits, glass steagal, etc, etc, etc)


...and my point was as it is written...the implementation time frame is STATED...July 31st 2014 - July 30th 2015 for companies with FYE March 31st 2014 - March 30th 2015 respectively

...our FYE in that time frame is Dec 31st 2014...the one that passed already doesn't count...we will see if I am right tomorrow

...your thoughts on last point

...Mylife

Hey...read my last post

tell me what u think

...I have never seen any major governmental requirement get implemented overnight...I am pretty sure this is happening company by company with FYE March 31st 2014 to FYE March 30th 2015


...we are December 31st 2014

...if I am reading it right...we have plenty of time

...and ya...life is jacked up...hold the line risk...we got this

...Mylife

Companies Currently Traded on OT CQB


OTC Markets will roll out the new procedures for
OTCQB over the course of a year. Each company
will be required to comply with the new OTCQB
procedures 120 days after its Fiscal Year End
(“FYE”). Companies that do not comply with the
new procedures within the required timeframe
will be downgraded to OTC Pink.


if our FYE is Dec 31st 2014...that puts us at meeting minimum requirements by 90 days after that...March 31th 2015

...and then there is this blurb

During 2014, companies may choose to apply to
OTCQB prior to their required compliance date to
take advantage of discounted pricing

...which we can do for $7,500 bucks instead of $10,000 because we are already OTC...for the first 2 years under the new guidelines...if we see this as advantageous at any time in 2014...I really feel people misread this whole thing

...we wont be the last company forced to comply...that would be a company with FYE March 30th 2015...putting a requirement date on them of July 30th 2015...but we are looking pretty damn good at Dec 31st 2014...giving us a requirement date of March 31st 2015

...if I am wrong...we will find out tomorrow

...but if I am right...we have plenty of time

...not to mention that at any time we are doing phenomenal...we can simply apply right then to OTC for renewal at the discounted amount of $7500 and save some cash

...if tomorrow goes by and we are still OTC...then all this DD was worth it...because we will already know where we are instead of trying to understand what "glitch" kept us alive in the OTC

...c u guys in 24 hours...especially by Friday close...if we are still on OTC at close Friday...then I have no doubt about what I am looking at...and it's boom time

...Mylife