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You should reread the Ebola posts. Decide for yourself. But...here we are, another full year later and still nothing in Tox (I don’t count tests that are not required for the inda nor tests that deliver results that are inadmissible for the inda), and we both know that we will be exactly in this same place in another 12 months. I can not fathom how 12 months ago there was so much confidence and it hasn’t demonished at all.
These guys are good.
DA!
That was fireworks?
Bwahahahahahaha!
Not in the room it wasn’t.
Not everyone silly, but if there are liars here in the board or in managment, which will have greater impact on investors?
Wasn’t it uncanny how some knew, with apparent certainty, there would not be any of the fireworks that were predicted for today’s meeting?
An unannounced change of venue will do that!
But ignore that and focus on what my motivation is or whether or not I’ve bought shares.
DA!
Hasn't there been sufficient proof that just because Seymour says something, it doesn't mean it's true?
Be honest.
Did you see what Seymour said and what Diwan said in today's meeting? Oh wait, you actually posted it!
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Didn't I tell you this yesterday?
Yes, I meant to let everyone know that I now have a better wool wind drag simulator. My flying carpets worked very well, but my NEW flying carpet work even better!
And you consider this progress and still have confidence that they are going to achieve their stated goals?
The dialogue about funding for clinicals should be enough to make anyone listening head for the hills.
They can't do it. Diwan says "they are close." That means they haven't done it.
So much for the false cheer that they have been able to replicate IDENTICAL batches and manufacturing to scale is no longer an issue.
There will be no Tox completed in '18.
I can't believe I have to say this again....for another year lost.
This won’t happen. They will not permit this type of open debate and honest discussion. They need to control the message.
You are fooling yourself if you believe this will EVER happen at an NNVC meeting.
Ain’t gonna happen. They will not allow ANY dissent to this degree.
Nope, they do not need to do these tests “in order to get to Tox testingr” as you put it.
Your first point is contradicted by your second point.
Have a wonderful day.
You do realize these are not actually the Tox studies that are required for submitting an INDA, nor are they actually required or necessary to do the studies that are required for submitting and INDA, don’t you?
Meaning, these tests are ONLY for PR value. They are not necessary or beneficial for the REAL tox that they need to conduct.
This one is pretty transparent.
Is that what Seymour did with Stat-sure? Bailed right before it went in the shitter?
My point was that you continue to make these statements about what the TA shows is going to happen...even just an “indication”...and yet NONE of your “predictions” has ever come to pass.
At what point does it become completely irrelevant?
Have any of your forecasts been accurate?
I'm not being snarky, but with the exception of saying the company will release something and then the news of Dr. B's conversion was announced, I can't see where any of your forward looking statements has come close to fruition?
As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Um, isn’t having data and results published considered “being made available for peer review?”
Whatever dude.
There you go again, tying everything back to "fraud."
It's a bit of an obsession of yours.
"Me thinks she doth protest too much"
Both the truth and justice will come soon enough.
I am absolutely angry with management, and embarrassed by them, and want to prevent anyone else from being hurt by what I believe is mean spirited and uncharacteristic behavior by some.
It's not that I profited or not that is preventing me from going to the authorities.
You choose to believe what you want.
Seymour said:
Please refrain from posting facts or actual data. It is irrelevant and will be summarily ignored.
The point was that they haven't submitted anything for peer review.
Do you mean super secret illegitimate nephew?
And I am truly curious how you're feeling now that it's at least one full year since I asked you what you would do if Tox were not complete in '17? Here we are and it hasn't even been started, and there's no lead candidate announce (may be announced at shareholder's meeting, but still nothing manufactured or able to be tested.).
I think your response was something about evaluating the progress...well, it's been a year, and they've changed their laser like focus to ocular, they can't make the stuff to scale (though they say they Will be able to someday), they are tight on operating cash, they have let lab staff go...is that the progress you were hoping to see?
Allegations?
Hmmm, let's see, they can't make it, they haven't had any of their results available for peer review, they have a likely illegal arrangement with Theracour whereby the CEO double dips and skims 30%, they are spending shareholder money testing a product that they currently do not have ANY rights to, they have made claims about timing, relationships, developments and results that are demonstrably false...all the while making 10's of millions for themselves and their families (remember, the CFO is the CEO's wife)...are these allegations or is this reality.
ROTF LMAO!!!!!!!
This is all moot and will be over soon enough.
But seriously, I'm just making all of this up!
Things are going great and they are right on target to meet their goals. '17 was a great year and '18 will be even better!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Revisionist history.
What you initially asked for and what I provided you examples of was this:
Google search is an amazing tool (search "news" as well for more current lawsuits.
http://www.businessinsider.com/sears-ceo-will-pay-40-million-to-settle-shareholder-lawsuit-2017-2
https://venturebeat.com/2012/04/09/groupon-derivative-suit/
http://fortune.com/2016/05/25/google-shareholder-antitrust/
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20170727/NEWS/170729910
There are many many more.
(now I'm sure we'll be parsing the use of "negligence" which is irrelevant to the question of a BOD being held responsible for dereliction of fiduciary duties on behalf of the company they represent or making false statements. Both of which applying the current situation).
While I understand that facts and data seem to be irrelevant, I hope this helps you understand.
NObody in prison will tell you they’re a crook either.
If someone robs “only” 2 banks over their lifetime, and when asked they say they’re not a crook, are they a crook?
I don’t understand how the claim that “he’s only deceived investors with 2 schemes” makes him less culpable?
Shame on you. Rationalizing what you state as an outright lie simply because it falls within your perceived SEC regulations. And then you blame those who chose to believe the statements made by managment.
I know facts are irrelevant, but if you look at his linkedIn page under education: it clearly says:
- Columbia
- Baylor
- UCLA
that's under education, not association or professorship.
what about 10) none of the above?
Wishing is not a good investment strategy.
You are conflating TA with Facts. They are not the same. Facts are provable whereas analysis is opinion (regardless of how educated the guess may be) based on current data.
I have answered these questions several times. I have been clear that some information I can not reveal as it would compromise me personally and others.
I have also been clear that the reason I post what I post is to try and help those who may be suckered into losing their hard earned money, in an attempt to make amends for what I believe to be an embarrassment and a moral catastrophe for those involved. My analogy was, and remains, if you saw someone getting their pocket picked on a bus, would you say something or let it happen? What if the pickpocket was someone you cared about? Would that change your decision?
We keep hearing "time will tell" and yet another entire year has past. What is time telling us? It seems to be screaming and yet there are those too stubborn or proud or ignorant to listen.
It is a shame.
I guess I don't consider saying something about a problem an "action" by the company.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I asked you last year what you would think if there were no Tox completed by end of next year ('17) and here we are.
Are you confident that the progress towards Tox and scale up is sufficient to believe that this company is credible and believable and will succeed in its endeavors?
Do you believe that shingles is still being worked on?
Do you believe Baylor is testing any of the 'cides currently or will be within the next few months?
I gave specific examples. But regardless, you claim that Seymour's "talk" is an example of an action taken by the company, when my question was regarding any specific ACTIONS...not words...that the company's management has undertaken in response to concern from shareholders about the "very slow progress."
I think that is more than a stretch and I can't make my question any clearer.
Is the company's progress going to be evaluated by how much they talk about an issue?
The obstacles you mention are not unknowns and are consistent for everyone in this field. The fact that management has not been able to anticipate, let alone address these issues is a testament to their complete incompetence. If you take into account the money spent on outside consultancies and a scientific advisory board, there is no need to judge motive (though I don't agree with you that there is integrity, maybe there is consistency of purpose, but not to the purpose of bringing a drug to market).
Do you believe management has been honest and forthcoming with information to shareholders?
I asked about actions over the past year that were in response to the shareholders' concern that is has taken a very long time.
Do you remember this from Jan of 2016...that's basically 2 years ago and none of these items has been achieved: