Well Roman, if it all comes together you could be spot on. As undervalued as KBLB is, once the confidence in Kim is established in the market through either a major business deal or great lab news the pps will explode. Hopefully, one or both of those scenarios is happening, and Kim will simply announce those on Friday without any need for a pump or pr.

Risk/reward. This is based mainly on the science and in a lesser part on the business end, but the risk definitely increases as the silence from Kim continues.

The ONLY thing that is keeping most investors hanging on is the science and the incredible potential that it represents. Kim has done absolutely nothing that would inspire confidence in his ability to take that science and establish a solid business plan, in fact quite the opposite. But, then again, who knows? Maybe a deal is done already or companies are bidding for the KBLB secret or just maybe we'll all be part owners in that deli serving the Monster burger.

Call it a fantasy or a dream or whatever you want, but the upside of KBLB is so great that investors do want to believe in Kim. Whether that belief proves to be foolish or not remains to be seen.

There's a huge difference in being realistic and negative. I've ALWAYS been positive about KBLB, probably unrealistically so at times, but the virtual silence from Kim leaves so many questions unanswered concerning both the science and business aspects that it leaves any outcome almost impossible to predict.

Maybe Kim will announce a buyout by Dow for 5.00 a share, or maybe he'll announce there are no business deals of any kind in the works. Maybe he'll announce the successful production of 100% spider silk, or maybe that the latest insertions have failed so badly that no further are planned.
Maybe he'll announce that he really is Zinc and that been Ben is really mojo and they're going to open a deli in Burbank.

Nothing would surprise me, the possible scenarios that could come by the end of this week are almost as numerous as potential KBLB products.

LOL. Okay, Roman, you're preaching to the choir with me. One of the main reasons for the need of publicity for a innovative product such as Monster silk is connecting with companies that could use it. KBLB hierarchy (Kim) couldn't possibly anticipate the potential uses of MS or other KBLB spider silks, thus the need for the spread of knowledge thruout industries.

I guess the critical factor would be the cost in producing the silk, and whether this cost would make commercial products viable.

As mojo posted, what happened to all the high expectations from Kim that were to be announced at the cc? The reason for the delay was speculated to be time for pure spider silk to be developed or commercial deals to be signed, now apparently if the worms are still alive then we'll be satisfied.

You are right, Roman, the product we have right now is Monster silk and selling it to companies that desire it to improve or revolutionize their products is one of the things the market is waiting to see. We've had it for a year, it has been peer reviewed and featured in Textile World, and yet we are only in "lab production" with no inventory to speak of?

KBLB is APPARENTLY sitting on one of the great scientific break-thrus that could change industries, yet it trades as a low penny stock not trusted by the market to be anything other than that.

Why is that so crazy? How about throwing Monster silk to the market, that's a PRODUCT. Not every industry is going to want or afford 100% spider silk, or is all the talk about Monster silk just that, talk. We've had this long enough for companies to decide whether or not it's viable for their products, seems like the patented ADVISORY BOARD would have suggested before now how to bring it to market and create a revenue stream.

It's past time Kim put KBLB into the public as a stable, reliable investment opportunity. The pps tells us that's not happening, and it all falls on Kim to correct.

He's got the science, the market for the products, and the interest of both media and public. Time to step up.

Well I know how Kim could make it "good exciting", that's by announcing in a pr this week he'll be holding a pc two weeks after the cc to demonstrate Monster silk, etc. etc.

Of course everything depends on exactly what he says in the cc, but this pr would make it plain to the market the confidence Kim has in this science and the time to invest is now.

One way or another, Monday following the cc is going to be exciting.

Correct me if I'm mistaken:

1) KBLB is the only company in the world with the technology to produce Monster silk.

2) The insertion method using ZFs is a vast improvement over that in the PNAS report making the viability of producing various spider silks more likely, especially with the platform worm development.

3) The patents and commercial licenses that have been obtained protect this technology for KBLB use.

4) Thus far the evolving science has progressed rapidly with few delays, making the production of pure spider silk more likely than ever before.

5) The commercial uses of KBLB products is virtually unlimited, depending solely on the science.

6) Media and public interest in spider silk is incredible, any company that honestly present 1 thru 5 would be considered a GREAT investment.

7) The market would have to be extremely wary of the credibility of such a company NOT to respond with investment.

Boy, how the mighty have fallen. From the high of the PNAS report to a 4 month delay in the cc to a falling pps to promoting a pump and dump.

I wonder why the market doesn't like KBLB?

Hey, is this the pr everybody's talking about?

Yeah, this is great, will do wonders for how the market views KBLB. We miss the golden opportunity to present KBLB as a solid investment and instead rely on a obvious pump and dump to increase the pps.

The only positive thing I get from this post is that the HUSKIES ARE IN THE NIT SEMIS!!

THAT is true, so is the fact that the pps is .08, everything else is up in the air.

KBLB's IR is like Wroten's jumpshot, you want him to do it but hate the results.

Boy, what are the odds there would be two of us on this board THAT ARE NEVER WRONG?

Come on Kim, make yourself famous.

Well, with 10% spider silk this guy gets more airtime than KBLB AND a textile manu to produce a product. This guy, Randy's goats, Amsilk, seems everybody uses the media to promote their product but KBLB.

I'm not emotional over this issue, and it hasn't cost me anything, but I'll wager it has cost other investors a great deal. But you keep posting against any suggestion that could raise the pps, and I've just responded by offering the possibilities that could be attained without further hurting investors.

For someone that doesn't care about my posts, you certainly present alot of very strange arguments attempting to discredit them.

The only accurate part of your entire post is "either way, it did not happen."

And no, I won't get over it. Do you realize what it's cost investors, and what not taking that action might well cost investors in the future? If the pc would have been held, the pps could well be in the .30 or .40 cent range by now. Investors that have been forced to sell in the last 4 months could have made profits, instead of losses. Kim would be in a far better position to buy a production warehouse or whatever, without massive dilution of shares.

No pc, get over it. No publicity from PNAS report, get over it. With this kind of business advice no wonder KBLB stocks fall everytime a pr is given. You don't like my posts, GET OVER IT.

Was the PNAS report based on Monster silk? Didn't think so, but no matter, Kim could have demonstrated it's physical properties without jeopardizing any specifics in the peer review. Besides, that report really solidified KBLB in the market, right? Thank goodness we kept Monster silk under wraps, might have affected that huge spike the PNAS report initiated which has brought us to the present pps.

And since when does the honest, straightforward presentation of what ZFs and the platform worm mean to the evolving science suddenly constitute lies when insertions were delayed? Boy, that's a good reason for not attracting new investors, KBLB's reputation as a penny stock might be compromised by a delay. This would NOT be an issue to new investors, the only big issue here is your continued opposition to ANY move by Kim that would attract new investors.

The BIG DANCE is really the NIT. Go Washington!!

Here's to hoping Kim has been a busy man, taking advantage of the expertise of the advisory board and all the pluses that KBLB has in it's corner, and will present a commercial business deal and/or plan that will blow us away.

"We are not going to make it this year. We are delaying our insertions. Thanks for coming."

This is your presentation of ALL that KBLB has accomplished in the last year? What about the discovery of ZF insertions and what they mean to the science, or perhaps the development of the platform worm and what that means to the future of the avenues available to spider silk? How about Monster silk, a PRODUCT that has never been developed by any other method, not good enough because it's not pure spider silk? How about a demonstration of it's physical properties, think nobody would be interested especially since this product is only the first step in what could be a multitude of commercial products in a ever evolving science?

Oh that's right, this would spike the pps until the market realized it was just a pump for KBLB stock and it would fall back down to where it is now. And when the PNAS report was released, the market would have ignored that KBLB was the company using that science, even though the media blitz that followed would have given it the credit deserved for developing and using the science to develop pure spider silk. Just another pump and dump for a penny stock, right?

Name recognition, product development, future commercial products, all followed by a peer review of the science. Yeah, that would have been bad, better to keep the potential of Monster silk and future KBLB products a secret until we can hold a pc and produce a silk shirt made of pure spider silk. Much better to delay a cc for 4 months, that'll give the market time to forget about the peer review and KBLB's involvement.

Kim has missed one opportunity after another to put KBLB front and center in the race to produce spider silk, resulting in increased trader and MM manipulation of the pps that has put KBLB in a corner that could lead to massive dilution and/or restricted business deals.

And you would argue more now against it. Brilliant.

Please tell me that's not Kim and Ben heading for the cc?

Not buying it Buck, there are traders on this board that have massive numbers of shares that can easily pull the pps down when dumped, especially when big investors haven't committed to Kim and his secrecy.

Still steaming about the Zag-Buckeye game, you pay off the refs with KBLB stock?

Boy, no interest in this stock. That'll change with the results of the clinical trials, we'll all wish that we accumulated more.

Anyone have an idea on the timetables of the clinical trials? If it's positive news, hang on for the ride.

Ah, gee Mike, you make me blush!

IMO it didn't sink below .07 after the cc delay is simply because of the huge upside of KBLB. Even with the silence from Kim regarding both the science and business sides of KBLB, investors still view the risk/reward of this stock heavily favoring the reward aspect and will do so until the cc.

Hard to believe the pps will remain in the .08 range following the cc, it will either rise or fall significantly depending on what Kim has to say.

Who were the ones that argued so vehemently against the idea of Kim holding a pc at Notre Dame back in December? Were they the same posters that argued against Kim taking advantage of the media blitz following the PNAS report? Gee, I wonder if they're the ones dumping shares everytime the pps spikes a penny?

A pc held in December, followed by the PNAS report, was the only legitimate chance investors had to see the pps rise with solid market investment. Without it, the market has to view KBLB as a stock black hole no matter what the potential might be, as traders have consistently pulled the share price down no matter what positive news has been released in the last year.

Investors can only hope Kim has incredible news, there's nothing else to look forward to.

Meow.

Exactly right, pps doesn't matter much at this point. Funny how some are talking .15 as a trading point when a .01 gain is enough for them to load up the dumptruck. They're playing with other people's money at this point and thus in a win-win situation, they just win a lot more if the pps goes up and down.

Just getting harder to convince new investors to buy on spikes and immediately lose money when traders are dumping for such small gains, going to take HUGE news from Kim to even get to .15.

I hope we haven't reached a point where even mentioning any possibility other than the most popular, positive view is attacked without any logical reading of what the original post actually said.

You make no sense, what you attribute to my post is simply not what I said. There were no false rumors or statements that are not true.

Gotta love him, can't trust him, but gotta love him.

Most investors don't want to hear anything that might negatively affect their investments, heck, I don't want to hear anything negative either.

But when a concern or issue that could effect KBLB stock is presented it would be absolutely foolish to disregard it simply because one doesn't want to consider anything negative. There's more than enough cheerleaders and/or traders on this board that are more than willing to "bash" so-called naysayers, all the while collecting stock with their trading strategy and leaving investors wondering why the pps is so low.

I for one appreciate your posts and insight into KBLB, not that I agree or disagree with them but simply because they usually raise different points that are relevant and should be considered.

No confusion here. Manshoon was simply stating the "fact" that certain possibilities exist for wrongdoing on Kim's part, not that any such actions were factual or even likely. It's up to you to decide how likely those possibilities are, but to simply ignore the fact they exist is not logical.

I have to disagree, manshoon isn't presenting any misleading opinions, just stating the facts. If Kim choose to do so, he could very well impart insider info to any number of entities without the knowledge of Notre Dame. He could be working on a various number of shady/illegal business moves that would be impossible for anyone to be aware of, he's a lawyer for god's sake.

That being said, and depending on the severity of the Kim's actions, he has to realize that just committing any such acts would reflect poorly on Notre Dame regardless of it being aware or not. Notre Dame's reputation is built on integrity, honesty, and being one of the greatest centers of learning in america, and anybody threatening that image would immediately be thrown under the bus.

Kim would be a fool to do so, but then again he's already given up the chance to take advantage of free, massive media publicity so I guess nothing would surprise me.

Maybe we can get Ben to take over their publicity, you'd never see it again.

That's certainly one way to look at it, and perhaps if KBLB was a normal penny stock being developed in a lab in Omaha no one would care but shareholders. But KBLB is tied to Notre Dame, not only is the science being developed there but they entered into an agreement that provides ND with financial gain dependent on the degree of success that KBLB attains. Dr. Fraser and ND have already claimed success with the PNAS report, and further interviews with him have done nothing to indicate anything other than the science evolving toward pure spider silk. If Notre Dame was found to withholding information that would negatively effect their income from KBLB commercialization, then the legal implications of such actions would be very relevant to any investigation into fraudulent activities. This is absolutely the LAST thing Notre Dame would want, whether they can claim "plausible deniability" or not.

Same goes for the advisors. These are 3 very well known and respected business leaders, and their appointment to this board was celebrated and pr'd by KBLB. There has been no renunciation of their involvement as far as I know, so current investors as well as potential investors certainly are influenced by their presence as advisors in all business dealings of KBLB.

I just don't believe this can be described as a typical penny stock. The PNAS report put KBLB front and center as the leader to produce the spider silk products that have caught the interest of media, and along with both Notre Dame and the advisors supporting KBLB it raises the attention of any sort of fraudulent behavior will draw from investigators.

In the eyes of investors, Notre Dame and the appointment of the advisory board took KBLB from being "an insignificant penny stock run by one person" to a company with ties and support of both a respected university as well as business expertise second to none.

Maybe you're right, nobody but shareholders do care, but KBLB has been presented in articles in national media outlets and I find it hard to believe nobody's going to pursue wrongdoing when it occurs on that stage.

I don't think so either, Roman, cause even though hiding behind plausible deniability might provide relief from legal issues it would severely damage the reputations of either ND or members of the advisory board.

Best case scenario is the science is proceeding as hoped for, Kim is using the advice from that blue-ribbon advisory board, and everything is coming together in a way that will provide KBLB the business model to succeed.

Problem is, the inner circle of KBLB actually consists of only one man, KIM.

Assuredly Dr. Fraser is well versed in the dynamics of the work being done at Notre Dame, thus so is the university itself. Does it have the obligation, or the right, to disclose failures and/or successes of the work being done there? If the science is found to be flawed and no other spider silk can be produced other than Monster silk, does Notre Dame and/or Fraser have any legal obligation to make that public knowledge when withholding it greatly impacts shareholder investments? I would certainly assume both ND and Fraser would disclose such information, irregardless of legal obligations, simply to protect both their reputations and integrity.

Questions arising from the participation or lack thereof regarding the business advisory board have been answered by Kim in the woefully inadequate manner of "consulted when needed." Just like Notre Dame, the inclusion of these members have a huge impact on the confidence of investors with regards to the integrity of KBLB, but also that the business acumen that they provide assures that decisions made will be influenced by the top experts in the business community. If they are not consulted and don't participate in discussions before business decisions are being made by Kim, it would certainly seem reasonable they would distant themselves from KBLB and would have done so long before now. To not do so would severely damage their reputations, not to mention the legal ramifications of allowing investors to be influenced by their involvement if that wasn't the case.

I can't imagine either ND or the advisory board to be used by Kim to further advance an agenda that is either a scam or not completely above board in it's business dealings. But then again maybe they have positioned themselves as having deniability in any wrongdoing, who knows but KIM?