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Team,
Let's "Take The High Road". Each argument does need to be addressed but with the DD we've already developed here, we can squash it with facts rather than personal attacks. I'm going to start scrubbing the archives for ammo. We can also start bringing credibility to TSHO on other forums as well but again don't get wrapped up in the mud slinging as you'll lose focus and credibility. Let's stay focused on:
- The sound business model developed.
- Each piece of the puzzle coming together through the sub-contracted network of industry leaders.
- De Beers keeping dilution minimal as it shows they value the shareholders interests.
- The outright potential of this stock if we were to have an oxy-clean or Foreman grill like response from the add campaign.
There was also a lot of talk concerning exit points. Personally, I plan on selling off my original investment as I've already increased 300% give or take and letting the remainder ride, at least until the next PPS estimate increase at which point I might sell off a little more. This stock hasn't even matured yet and we've already seen massive gains so it's a personal choice of whether or not you choose to stay 100% long or start harvesting here and there.
Wow! Talk about a smear campaign... As always the smear players come in with unfounded arguments. No one will respond to sensible responses. No wonder tempers rise...
TSHO Team,
Just logging in to check the banter. Wow! I think the recent critism, whether founded or unfounded has struck a serious chord with some of the TSHO longs including myself. With that said, let's address these critiques with our already developed knowledge base and verifiable research complete with sources and not get wrapped up in knee jerk emotional response reactions which is what we're being baited with here in order to discredet this forum. Lets keep it profesional folks. It will help us in the long run.
Just sayin...
I will more than likely be on a flight during the conference call. Can you guys post highlights for me?
Thanks ahead of time,
Ben
No problem there my friend. It's a little chilly here though, not like the east coast but not the 105 degree vegas I'm used to. We stopped in Baltimore / Eastern Shore before coming to Vegas and just missed the Blizzard. Family & friends there chastizes us daily for leaving them in the frigid, snowed-in blizz to come enjoy roof-top terrace bars and light jacket weather. Oh well...
Based on Skymark / ESR's track record, I think it would be wise to see stock to their conservative estimates and then reassess with the same scrutiny as before. Pulling an arbitrary number from your ass based on a gain percentage ceiling, or whatever the case may be doesn't really fit TSHO's business model, as with 7 products lined up, each rolled out one after and knowing that more then likely they will all make profit but there's a potential for a home run in the mix, this stock offers the best of both worlds. The potential for a long shot combined with steady gains and worst case scenario a small roll back if by chance one of the products flops. If a flop occures then I'm sure TSHO will fast track the next product in the arsenal which only creates another buy opportunity for those who understand the potential of this stock. I really doubt we will see a flop though. We might have lack-luster sales figures for a single product but an all out flop is highly unlikely considering who we have contracted to do the marketting.
Just my two cents.
Sorry guys, kilshaw is on vacation. No hits for hire this week, or the next, or the next...
BTW Vegas is unreal. Having a blast but unreal non-the-less.
To top off it all off, all I have to do is log in on a daily basis and check TSHO. What a nice addition to the vacation experience to know that I'm making more while on vacation then actually working the regular job.
I'm glad I stumbled upon Skymark, TSHO but most importantly this board to bring credibility and understanding to it all for the newby like myself.
Over and out! I have a date tonight... Vegas seems to be a mecca for single hotties and I don't mean call-girls. Wish me luck fellas!
Or come to Vegas and I'll share some of my Johnny Walker Blue Label with you and give you that debrief we had discussed. Stick with us Big Stud, we wont lead you a-stray.
I'm glad I didn't cash that $5k in for my vegas trip!
Excitied for the coming weeks fellas!
I think ESR's original estimate in the $1.30 range was ultra conservative. Maybe now that all the links in the chain have come together and this thing is getting ready to launch they can start moving their estimate more towards the actual PPS potential.
Uh oh, who called the pessimism police? Woop Woop
I think Han shorted this thing and he is panicking because contrary to his gamble, this thing is poised to launch! You can sense the desperation in these bashers when they get thier bets in wrong.
Hmmm tempting...
I did have Miami on my radar this go around but I'll have to wait until my next R&R. Besides, I'll need another year in the gym before I'm "South Beach" ready! lol
I'm really excited for the coming year with the forum community we've got here, Skymark and ESR plus Maone's invaluable analysis and advice.
Go TSHO and go Skymark/ESR subscribers!
Thank you both! For the advice and for the support!
Thanks man!
Yeah I was going to take a risk as I was calculating that it would be end of Feb before it took off and I was going to replenish what I took out but on second thought, in case something occurs before end-o-Feb such as another PR I didn't want to miss the boat. Even if it was only fraction of my holdings, that 5k could end up costing me 5, 10 or even 15 k in profits.
Regardless, I'll still be watching the Super Bowl from The Palms Place fellas! Much better then watching it on AFN (Armed Forced Television Network) as they don't show any of the funny commercials.
That seller at .80 was me selling off a small portion to pay for my Vegas trip in about a week. I decided to cancel the sale and hang on to all shares. Pulled some funding from another source. I would be kicking myself if this thing broke $1.00 while I was spending part of my position on R & R.
Next seller at $2.00 then!
Not going anywhere for a while? Grab a snickers.
Indeed 2009!
Does anyone have a level 2 they can post? I would be quite pleased if we lock in at .80 until the sales campaign begins.
I'm still kicking over here in Iraq! Just haven't had much time to post.
Can someone post the link where to order these bulbs again? This forum is massive and I can't find it perusing through the old posts. Thanks ahead of time!
Clear! *Applies Defibrillator* Beep Beep - ladies and gentlemen SYMW has a pulse!
So here's the deal. I have been holding a substantial amount of SYMW for a long time. I haven't got the patience or time to call JD and frankly I could give two sh**ts to speak with him directly. I already know what he is going to say as it's his job to tickle the nut sacks of all us investors and create warm fuzzies. There's a difference between fluff PR's and neccesary shareholder updates and frankly this thing is either going rocket or tank regardless. A shareholder update stating that this thing has got a pulse wont change that. On the flipside, given the market conditions and the technologies already in existence, HAFC, Tesla derived, Magnets, Whatever the FCK, I'm sure everyone is jockeying for positions and without a marketable product SYMW is simply a long shot like everyone else. If it drops, so what. If it rockets, then cool. Whatever. SYMW shouldn't be your only card in this fight. Energy will always be a raging battle.
This article concerning the $150 B infomercial business was posted on the ZVTK thread.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29960338
The thing with infomercials is that the product doesn't even have to be the greatest thing since sliced bread in order to be successfull. It just has to appeal to a certain percentage of the target audience and regardless of whether it 'cleans' the air or just makes particles heavy enough to fall out of the air to be hoovered up later is inconsequential as long as it works as advertised. IMO this product has appeal and will continue to sell and continue to make us $$$.
Yeah and as soon as it does I have a giant chunk of change ready to swoop in and buy it up there studly. Don't think it will ever get to the levels you're wishing for to break even on your short 'gamble'.
Maybe, just maybe if you bashers can shake a couple traders off the tree you'll see it hit .71 again but .40's??? Good luck on that! Check out the fundamentals next time you decide to short something so pink and promising; Stud Muffin!.
I'll be ready to conduct your debreif here in the last week of Feb/ first week of March and then we can go over everything that went wrong for you buddy. Hopefully we can keep this mistake from happening again in the future for you and help you make some money next time.
Wowsa! Easy there. Just trying to provide clarification for everyone as not everybody uses Military acronyms and I know peeps are scratching their heads over AOR. Not trying to insult your intelligence.
AOR = Area of Responsibility, probably inferring 'downrange' or deployed location.
I hear they are awesome for the casual weed smoker as well! I think I'll buy my old HS buddy one to get that skunky smell out of his house! lol
Thanks for all of the support guys. I plan on being a part of this community for a long time. Very constructive group we've got here. GO TSHO!
I'll give him a good debriefing... lol
Hey stud please refer to posting #6551 that addresses the deal made between TSHO and SLC based Net Media Group. Net Media Group develops online marketing services for customers.
Do you know the definition of 'Online Marketing Services'?
This is what we call a 'Web Presence' or 'E-commerce site' and frankly as long as the focus is on selling product and generating cashflow, I could care less about the company website.
We've addressed this over and over again there stud-muffin.
What is most frustrating is that we all gave him a chance to express any critique and as we addressed each item on a case by case baisis, his retorts usually involved regurgitation of the same arguments already addresses and debunked, yet he seems content on stiring doubt wherever he can. My gut feeling says someone lost a sizable sum on shorting a typical penny stock when in fact it turned out to be a valid speculative sub dollar play poised to turn an actual profit.
Totaly agreed and typically I don't respond as it only perpetuates this clown's obnoxious antics but tonight this deuche bag struck a chord with me... for some reason...
No worries my friend. The burden of what was once a war is hardly mine to bear so I cannot take credit. I go to work day in and day out as you all do. I live in a compartmentalized housing unit which is little more than a modular toolshed with a heater/ac power and internet connection. Prior military / profiteer...
Nevermind. I get frustrated with this clown. It's 03:37 in Baghdad and I'm drunk in my CHU. Sorry for the hostile reponse. Over and out. Kilshaw...
Are you kidding me? Are you lacking attention or something? Seriously... If you have a valid critique then please share with the group so we can address it. You remind me of an attention starved kid brother or something that throws out outlandish comments just for the shock value. C'mon seriously...
You're crackin me up man. I'm just trying to figure out where the next party is going to be??? The Sands, Luxor, Planet Hollywood??? I just want to show up and get my $6,000 worth of Crystal, hell I would even take Moet at this point! Party on JD!!!!
This investment is one you set to simmer and step back and allow it to mature. The thing I like about this play is I don't have to be constantly glued to the charts ready to hit the sell trigger if it drops to far or if it spikes up to an unsustainable level. Each week seems to break into new highs and establish a new floor. Solid and steady with an astounding business plan wins this race. I'm not looking to make a profit and cash out before Christmas. Every cent I dumped into this one I planned on not having for 1,2 even 3 years if need be. GLTA!
Do we know if the video pitch on http://www.ultimatesqueegee.com/ is Cesari's work? They may have an even better infomercial in the works.
I think it is a good product, I just didn't think it was a knockout product (According to an earlier post, the George Foremand Grill had a 40% response on it's target audience when first rolled out in it's direct TV marketting debut). If this product had a 40% response rate out of a targetted audience of 70 mil selling at say $19.95 we would end up with a $532,000,000 cash-flow, in it's first phase! The kicker, howver is that we don't need a knockout product to make money on this stock. We just need a steady seller. And this product I believe has that potential. Furthermore, and this is only speculation, but I believe TSHO DOES have a knockout product in their arsenal but they are playing it safe by releasing this product first to test their marketing and sales network. Make sense?
Imagine the appeal of this product combined with Cesari Direct's magic and SNAP! We'll have 70 million homes in agreement that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Remeber our targets? If I remember right, all we need is 1/2 pct of households to respond to the ad campaign to take this share price to Skymark's conservative estimates.
Agreed Maone,
Then again washing windows the old fashioned way is a total pain in the you know what. Especially exterior windows so who knows, this might end up having awesome appeal. I know I would purchase the product; in fact I'm going to buy my parents one as well.