Some jettison their investment life logic just because it did not happen as quick as we would like. That is part of the investment scene, whether I like it or not.

GE has only been on the scene with MVTG's ERC and MRFC a few months. Alstom as a typical giant takes their time to R&D and then commercialize wisely at their speed. So yes, it has had delays but they too are still working the contract and I suspect... laying the foundation of near future commercial implementations. AIMHO.

No ERC pilot plant was promised last year at this time, just planned as the wording of communications show. Where were the other green venture capitalists when we needed them for this cutting edge technology? Still in legacy ideas, perhaps.

There have been and are continuing progress points in ERC and MRFC that encourage me for the near future... and that is what I invest in. May it so reward you all as well.

Seasons Greetings - SPS50 7+ years

Thank you for the link, on behalf of all of us here.

Over the past month even, MVTG pps has steadied and rose some. Other competitors was legacy tech sure took huge hits as I expected. Any help towards CO2 mitigation is good.

Hmmmm, I can not find in writing that all the MVTG issuable shares are guaranteed to become outstanding. Financing of almost any type comes at a cost. To call it toxic is more than a stretch, especially when the move forward increases shareholder wealth in the future as we all invested for.

I am pleased to await the forthcoming success of ERC/MRFC at MVTG.

Well, I see revenue and continuing research activity reported every 10Q now. There is DD that Alstom & GE certainly support and are aware of MVTG's ERC and MRFC. I have not found where the supporting work agreements between MVTG and Alstom have stopped, so that is encouraging.

Since MVTG over the past two years has negotiated both private (Alstom) and private (Canadian grants) that extend for a while, I see good reason why other grants and funding are also in the works as well.

We all had access to MVTG's financials 5+ years ago, so I did not need a PR to tell me things were tabled for a while. The world needs ERC + MRFC as well as other good ideas that mitigate CO2. For that, big money venture capitalists sure had their eyes closed all along.

It always seems darkest just before the dawn...

So the MVTG financials show no revenue, therefore no work, right?

And the MVTG R&D being done now is taking us back to the stone age? How will we handle CO2... I hope they do not bury it in my back yard.

And MVTG has no paid working agreements with Alstom nor any Canadian government entity for the future?

Thanks for the update... :)

For a related issue: The Hidden Cost of Solar article.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2015/12/the-hidden-cost-of-solar-energy-storage.html?cmpid=renewablestorage12102015&eid=291195986&bid=1253319


I certainly hope that businesses and consumers can work together to promote the green solutions we already have. Then MVTG's storage potential will shine even better.

From my start with MVTG I was pleased that its ERC/MRFC solutions not only help recycle CO2 into usable products but also have the practical potential to replace a carbon-based generation of CO2.

Now THAT is a green solution. May it come soon and win many supporters to push these ideas along!

SPS50

Several good points the past two days. The pps rise is encouraging, as is the continued PAID research that just makes ERC and MRFC more valuable to prospective purchasers/users. We wanted a green solution to CO2 and these are a great ones with multiple applications. HQ is using the funds properly to advance this solution IMHO. In my DD there is nothing about the CEO or others on top requesting significant dilution to pay back old MVTG loans, etc., so that discussion is pointless. The more tires get kicked just means some will get sore toes for no good reason.

Thanks for all you do, EcoMike and Larry & Co.

Alstom is paying good $$$ for commercial related science results which they monitor. Thats good enough for me!

I expect a winner here and do not lose unless I walk away from this investment at less than my cost. In the meantime, it is pleasing to me to have leaders and tech staff working for a sucessful outcome of ERC and MRFC, to start with. Alstom and other major investors have a signficant vested interest in making this profitable. I like that incentive.

Lack of venture support in the past for so obvious a gem as this confirms again the missing vision of true entreprenuership. AIMHO

SPS50

From my point of view, MVTG's future has many legs to stand on as confirmed by PRs', etc. It is my shortcoming if expectations of progress time were too fast. Still, Alstom/GE and other corporate helpers along the way built a good foundation. Like others, I just buy more when I can.

It is not self explanatory. The board here does not know what specific "things" you were referring to that were expected to have "happened" and over what frame of time. There has been pointed out on this board some things in posts as well as reference to PR's etc. of steps of progress for MVTG ERC/MRFC in connection with Alstom. (And that is certainly better than where we were 3 years ago.)

Once we have this, then perhaps we can agree on apparent measurement of expectations. Thank you.

Please define "has happened"... PR's are notoriously slow in reporting after the fact it seems. Like babies, they come when they are ready.

What a great opportunity to load up more! Averaging down over the years has kept me green.

This short term direction has been present just before prior MVTG significant favoralbe pps moves. Steady as she goes...

"My people perish (suffer) for lack of vision (on their part)".

Thank you Larry and Staff for all the hard work which is about to benefit us.

SPS50 7+ years

I am satisfied with the R&D efforts at MVTG and put my money on it last week twice.

Thank you to all who contribute meaningful posts that support this green-er initiative.

SPS50 7 years... :)

There is no more downside to Alstom, etc than the tens of millions of loans and fine print obligations connected with so-called investments taken by other corporations compared here.

Actually, what an honor and confidence that MVTG receives from such funding and associations. Good thing that MVTG's wise management ignores the unsubstantiated dribble we wade through. I see steady progress. Thanks MVTG!

And how many years did it take Plug to finally get its minimalist product to its first customer? And yet, a couple of research years into MVTG ERC/MRFC paid by Alstom and others that shows up 2013-2015 in the 10-Qs and PR'd grants etc. along with the Spark is labeled as no results.

None are so blind as those who will not see ... what is happening right in front of one that has been pointed out dozens of times in postings here. I am pleased MVTG has such major collaborators in these goals. I see progress paid for by those organizations that do believe.

Yes, hard work trumps dribble.

Technology, its research and application, are ingrained into the German society, economy and mindset. Regardless of any world situation, it will continue and survive, especially with ideas like the Bavarian project. People wise in the world know this and uninformed opinions do not alter that. Whether MVTG's ERC will make in whole or in part will soon be apparent.

If I ever have to eat my words, may I have made them sweet and true, like here.

S. Schultz
Ancestors from Sanitz, Mechlenburg, Germany

Some like to claim there is no progress in tech nor potential customers. So, when MVTG gives us a firm statement there is firm interest after all this time, it is to be ignored? I am pleased to hear of it, especially after the tiring wait for Alstom to finally acknowledge their formal association with MVTG when it had been underway for almost a year. Sigh, the typical big business approach. Ah, well.

What is communicated here has no connection with tax season, for that is an individual decision and those strategies of sell and buyback are very risky. I know, from personal experience.

Thanks for being here. I do read what you post.

SPS50

Huh? The Alstom deal has done well for MVTG given the reputation and funding of MRFC and ERC as shown in PR, financials and 10-Q's.

Perhaps some need to redo their DD. I did not expect a drive-through profit but MVTG has shown its progress much better I the last 3 years than the 5 previous. Looks good to me!

This is a good start to anticipated favorable news. I look forward to seeing the details in a near future PR. Thanks...

If you are referring to building a pilot plant with no previous example, success, science tests, etc. then I agree with you.

If one is referring to building a pilot plant that does have previous similar example(s), tests, etc. and that is no more complicated, then I see the Bavarian option has an excellent project to showcase one side of ERC. Guess we will know soon.

Thanks for being here.

I do not see that as worth time discussing. They will file and many companies do the same. Too many communications may be a questionable sign of...

I still connect the dots and am patient. Hope you are too! :)

I think an intelligent and successful company can see potential in a process that has already shown to work on a small scale. Alstom is smart enough to do heavy duty DD. Scalability here has already been discussed and positive to my satisfaction. The science of it is transparent. Otherwise, one would not invest nor care to post such a company, right?

R&D progresses on wise moves as there are no guarantees in this area for any new invention, technology, drug, etc.

Thanks for the cheap shares, someone. Go MVTG.

You rightly point out the lack of vision from investors who want drive through profits. Having been here longer than most, I can appreciate the DD along with the patience. Who can understand the years we waited when their was no "white knight"?

The best is always worth it, and yes I believe that is what is happening with MVTG and Alstom, etc.

The more substantial the progress to report, usually the more time it takes to get their with approvals from all parties involved... that is just S.O.P. with major corporations world wide. I recognized this one year ago. That is not my preference, but I accept that MVTG and collaborators have a vested interest in bringing this to fruition soon, along with all the sweat equity!

In my long business experience, making a process or product usable to the market place IS one type of commercialization... not just being ready to put on Walmart's shelves. We will be rewarded in stages.

Yes, Mike, formic acid is getting noticed and that is about time!

The cheaper it gets, the more I buy and know why Alstom is so committed to MVTG technology. Feel the same?

Answer: Indirect interest in MVTG PPS now, but... maximum value of the technology that directly affects our future pps!

Without better funding, I prefer the paid for development and commercialization be put in successful hands like Alstom that are already in the CCU field. They have a vested interest to make it viable. :)

SPS50

Why not ask them individually? If everyone sold, there would be no buyers. I bought today at .06 and that is fine. I know what good lies in MVTG.

So much for those who said .01 and going lower. It is the near future I see and not just today. THAT is a better investing creed.

The only fake here is the posting logic and kicking tires no matter what proof is given. My money is on MVTG for technology that is up to date for today's economy, not a lesser idea.

And major firms are footing the bill for commercializing our own technology and patents. That is a high-five of green.

Anyone it seems here can kick the tires but you provided no facts nor proof of the posted assertions. That is why so many here are on ignore... except where I must wade through such posts to get to ones with integrity like EcoMikes, Peachman, or Drugmanx.

If a proposal does not work, its cost is irrelevant. MVTG's has been demonstrated. Just like yelling "wolf" time after time, eh. Ah, the sounds of silence from the maddening crowd.

Some only know how to poke fun in their ignorance. Others recognize the necessary progress lining up with MVTG. Thanks, Larry and Company!

Still green 7 years...

SPS50

When I feel fading and tired, a nice walk does a great good! The pps, like my weight, seems to up and down. May my weight go down and MVTG rise at the same time... :)

Thanks... nice list! Seems related, though I await EcoMike's opinion.

The "market" some refer to are a handful of people in/out with little patience but only a view of drive-through quickie profits IMHO. We see from here dimly of behind the scenes progress found in DD.

SPS50 7 years :)

Appropriate summary IMHO. MVTG desired to maintain control of the company, ERC/MRFC progress, etc. instead of jumping at losing offers. Thus, the pilot plant had to be funded from MVTG's side to achieve that control, along with a one year + timetable for confirmed results. The funding did not materialize. Certainly heavy dilution was not palatable to us here.

The elevator to ERC/MRFC success is out of order. They will have to take the stairs, one at a time. (Zig Zigler)

SPS50 in Bergen Norway

IMHO,again this tech stock is in a typical cycle for commercialization. Patience will reward me.

Steve in Kirkenes Norway

Well spoken. Anyone who has built a business can recognize the wise steps here.

SPS50 in Sweden

Not sure bro, but I purchased first at .34 7years ago and saw it go to .01 with FAR LESS DD support than we have now. The process is taking steady time, instead of a shooting star that quickly fades before one unloads. Not my preference, either. But temporary pps is NOT the measure of a company's true upcoming value. How fickle the market is. Like all here, we have seen this happen with many stocks over the years.

As an investor, I trust MVTG management. The foundational track record over the past 3 years is admirable. I still see growing potential here and steel myself to "noise". I may not see behind the scenes but I like what I see thus far.

Peace.

SPS50