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We talked about this briefly on here before. Microsoft is saying that we won at the CAFC against ATVI on a technicality of late filings. One of which got Bungi thrown out. I think we only had 6 claims validated thru the PTAB before the CAFC ruled and we got all the rest back. Microsoft now only wants to defend itself against Worlds on those original 6 claims. Some here are under the impression that Worlds will get to keep all claims going forward because of the CAFC ruling. Will Worlds only get to fight with the 6 original claims granted? That's the million dollar question. 6 claims is still plenty enough to win this. My guess is we will only get to fight with those 6 claims. Thoughts?
The new blood popping up here has me convinced that these people all jumped on what they thought was a covid testing stock. I would love to be wrong. Yahoo message board also has a few commenters that were confused by the news snippet today. Somebody needs to change their name. And it aint us.
I agree with you. This will probably bleed down. Does anyone have access to this SA article? They do tend to make retail investors excited.(That's what they're for) The volume is higher than it's been as of late, but seems low for any kind of insider knowledge. A settlement would be nice, yes. And I would love to see one. But without the 101 decision, we are still dragging thru the processes and nothing that's been released recently in my opinion will help us sustain the prices we're currently at. I still think we will close the gap around 20ish.
Worlds may have a little money left over from MRMD to supply the straws.
Do we get 101 decision before the trial date is set? Why still no decision?
Jury trial in January/February? Did I miss something?
If there were side deals without notifying UOIP shareholders. Wouldn't those deals be paid out from Carters 900 million shares? Or could those deals be voided and let those entities sue Carter in the after math.
I’m just poking around for ideas on where to look for our “possible missing shares. Where do we go to get a concrete count on how many shares are trading in uoip? This is crazy. Someone has to have the count. We shouldn’t have to rely on another shareholder to get an accurate account for the rest of us when it should be public knowledge one should be able to simply look up. By the way, thank you very much Tony for taking on such a daunting task.
Maybe that's where we need to go. To the SEC. If Billy's trying to re-instate. Wouldn't that include how many shares exist.
Will the SEC get info into how many shares are available for trading? Then we may finally get our answer and see if our shares even exist.
I think you’ll get another shot at them in the low 20’s
Thanks Captart. I saw earlier that someone posted the date too. I was just putting it out there to see if its commonplace for the courts to wait until the very last moment to reveal their hand. I understand that these dates aren't in stone. But if the ruling just so happens to come out tomorrow, then it would be obvious that the decision was made weeks ago and was just waiting to be typed up. Learning how the court system works will help me in my trading strategy in the future. Gotta keep learning right?
This is one of those decisions that could get the partys to start talking seriously if ruled in our favor. While courts were closed, there should have been less distractions and more than enough time to deal with homework (our case). It's like watching a heinz ketchup commercial.
I understand why the defense would wait up until the last minute to file a reply.(Stall tactic) But the courts waiting to rule til the last minute? I know she wants a rock solid unappealable decision. But weren't the courts closed down for a while? Seems like more than enough time for her and her staff to do their homework while waiting for them to open up again. Let's get this show on the road.
I understand why the defense would wait up until the last minute to file a reply.(Stalling tactic) But the courts waiting to rule til the last minute? I know she wants a rock solid unappealable decision. But weren't the courts closed down for a while? Seems like more than enough time for her and her staff to do their homework while waiting for them to open up again. Let's get this show on the road.
I see a gap still needs to be filled at around .20
He's been wishy washy for a long time. 1st it was, share holders won't get anything, Next was, Billy says we will share the spoils, Then it was, only certain shareholders who bought at the right time will get anything. I can't tell if he's coming or going. Definitely not telling us something. JMO.
For someone who supposedly owns millions of shares, one would think you would be more concerned about the possibility of a total loss here. Instead you go and make the remark that the company is dead. You don't seem fazed at all. Is there something you're not telling us? And yes, you threw $12 billion out there. Was that false info? Purposely misleading info on a chat board can get you expelled.
Tony, I have 500,104. Was trying for more but we got delisted before that could happen.
The Judge saw the merits of these patents a long time ago and could have called them obvious back then. But she didn't. Bungie and the RPI caused us a huge headache along with all the other cases that we waited on that helped solidify our position. In my opinion, it won't take her too long to write up her decision and send us to the next phase. it's frustrating the amount of time each process (discovery then Daubert) takes to finally get to a trial.
I agree. #1 more likely.
We've followed this thing for quite a while now and are getting used to not having a decision on the very same day as the hearing. I don't believe that it's any of the usuals on the board who are walking this thing either up or down. Most have all the shares they need and know better than to chase this thing up. It's most likely people who follow possible catalysts and may have expected some sort of ruling that didn't pan out as quickly as they wanted. After all, the volume over the course of the week wasn't really that spectacular.
This is dead money up until court. Once Casper finally makes her decision on the obviousness issue, she can then schedule a date. ZZZZZZZZZZ
I agree, Helge was good out of the gate until Casper interrupted. From that point on is where I thought he lost his rhythm. It felt somewhat jumbled, and rushed. I believe he got most of his points across. Did anyone seem like he got less time? (it felt like it) It's now up to the Judge to do her homework from the cases cited and send us on our way to a nice big payday.
I only reminded you that it’s game on. Worlds deserves just compensation for their tech. I see that you are also pretty good at the hindsight game since you just now replied to my post from long ago. I would be more impressed if you could tell me what Atvi’s pps will be after trial in 2021?
From what I remember reading is that Worlds pointed out there was a clerical error and Judge Casper said she would take it into consideration. I was curious if anyone remembered how many years that entailed that would be added to the end of the life of the patents. Sorry if I was wasting your time.
Could you please explain in a little more detail about the remaining time left on the life of the patents. Is the remaining time (years) for all other infringers frozen until this case settles? And how many years would that entail. Thank you.
She should give them a short window.(the shorter the better) What's the difference? If they do make it to a trial, I'm thinking that the chances of them appealing something/anything with a Worlds win is practically 100% anyway. Especially with the amount of money that's on the line. Why put it off for 7-8 months or more when an appeal is inevitable. Lets get this thing started and deal with whatever happens.
Thanks Choo Choo
I hoping for good news from the upcoming video conference call to hear what Casper has to say. It would be great if she could lift the stay and get a court date so this thing can start rolling again. It's been soooo long since we've heard any kind of news. A court date would be the thing that really forces them to talk numbers. Don't forget the Billions at stake here. (not my words).
With 60 million shares outstanding, a buyout at 5 dollars is only offering 300 million for the patents. Which gets divided between Thom, the lawyers, and the rest of us. The lawyers will get a third of that or possibly more.(depending on their arrangement) Which leaves 200 million. Don't forget to pay Uncle Sam for the capital gains tax. No thanks, A lot of us have waited 8 plus years. I'll wait for trial. Maybe if I owned 4 million shares I'd feel different.
Did he just say we want a quick resolution? Seriously?
How does Bungie fit into this conference? Does worlds have to sue them as a separate entity? Will we have a 2 year court wait for them like we do for Linden labs?
We just want the thing scheduled. I don't see it happening anytime within the next 2 months.(hopefully the virus is gone by then) If it so happens that we are postponed, so be it. At least we will be in line.
I agree. Some will sell out of necessity. This stimulus was a necessary, temporary bandaid that hopefully gets us to a point where the markets can take over and behave normally. They're forecasting another 3 weeks. Until then, I think the markets take another downturn and revisit the lows.
What else could possibly get in the way of removing the stay at this time? Worlds attorneys believe that everything on the list has been crossed off and are ready to get this thing litigated. I hope Judge Casper takes Whitey Bulgers delay into acct and gives us preferential treatment for scheduling. There's nothing stopping the share price from being manipulated up until the conference. So if people are looking for a bargain, put in a lowball bid. you just might get some.
Bungie's chance to appeal their RPI position in the Activision vs Worlds case has expired. Game on.
I’m grateful that this part can be done by video conference. Hopefully the new lawyers brought on by the defense was only posturing and we have fruitful negotiations. If not, My guess is August court date.
And it’s nice to also hear that it doesn’t have a 4 to 6 month reply/response time. Was really getting sick of those.
Thanks sooner. Music to our ears. Welcome to the board.