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As always, your posts are worth reading. Thanks for the clear statement of reality.
They've already missed one deadline, (the two clinics in 2008)
It seems that they are trying to buy more time for their apoligists by dropping that little item from their webpage.
A gagged TA, missing deadlines, giving (millions of) shares to promoters, no viable business plan... (I'm sorry, how long do you want me to go on?) etc. etc.
This all adds up to an obvious P&D, imo, of course!
What possible DD have you done, please give one example (with links would be nice) That is not directly tied to a company PR or their former/current website?
Yes you can show that the industry is viable, I'll concede that. But a company that was supposedly finishing a contract with WSU two months AGO? and it's still not done???
Does the CEO have ONE company in his past that is still in existence? (well I guess you could count Pharmacom Biovet Cancer Clinics,Ltd a PRIVATE Nevada corporation controlled by Berthold and the same board of directors)
I can't help but notice the new IBOX, it seems all the silly inormation that the company was trying to project has been changed???
I guess they have a new advisor, who has told them that putting out statements that can be easily laughed at is not a good idea.
Although, we still are not told WHO the IR person is, not to mention her partner and associates. The laughable claim that there has been no dilution has been removed. Any mention of the officers background is no longer there, of course that claim was unsupportable. and on and on...
Nope, I think it was misleading. Just like all the other company communications. Let's see what they actually produce. They have already backed off of Two clinics in 2008.
Their profiles of company officers have also been withdrawn due to the laughable lack of substance contained in those profiles.
ROFL...REALLY! people are stareing. But seriously, They had to take down the background of their corporate officers because They've been so badly discredited. As for the two clinics in 2008, it's obvious thats not going to happen, and probably not in 2009 either.
I can only assume you mean the entire post, since taking quotes out of context is always misleading. I'm certain that wasn't your intent.
By the way, since WSU has been accepting dogs for cancer treatments for 6 weeks or so (I forget exactly when I called them) why isn't PHMB mentioned anywhere as having an interest in this clinic or any open clinics?
And as for mentioning NCSU's clinic, competitive activity is on topic. It indicates that PHMB is well behind and has nothing to offer. I cannot see any university collaborating with PHMB unless they have something solid to bring to the table. It appears that they do not.
The problem with that is, they have never talked about a clinic in NC. Now why did they have to go clear across the country to find a University to work with?
NCSU was in the process of opening a Canine Cancer Clinic, complete with bone marrow transplants. Why not work with them? Perhaps some of the principals are better know in NC???
All in my opinion, of course.
by the way, the Canine Cancer Clinic at NCSU is open and accepting dogs for treatment.
PHMB commented on the detail that they were formalizing an agreement. Then nothing. I've worked out licensing and operating agreements with two different Universities, they are slow, but not two months slow. That is not if both parties are really trying to work out an agreement.
WSU was used in my opinion.
By the way, WSU is currently accepting dogs for cancer treatment. I verified that as well. So if their clinic is operating, why is there no agreement with PHMB?
Well if you're going to quote me, don't take it out of context.
he (Dr. Bryan) no longer returns emails about PHMB
That deal is dead, imo. and time is rapidly running out to open any clinics this year, despite the claims that they will have two oprating clinics by the end of 2008.
Because all they are really selling is stock. NOT doggie cancer clinics. They put out misleading PR's and interviews but never quite lie.
If they really had something, then announcing that would generate all the awareness needed. Had they been real, they could have easily waited until after the deal with WSU was done, then announce it. Instead they announced they were "actively formalizing" a deal on Oct. 8. over TWO months ago. Universities may be slow, but not that slow.
I know there were discussions with WSU, I confirmed it with Dr. Jeff Bryan of WSU, but he no longer returns emails concerning PHMB.
The stock price was stable in Oct. All they had to do was sign an agreement with WSU and announce that, and this would have gone up nicely. Instead, they announce negotiations that appear will never be consumated, and hire stock promoters left and right and flood the market with new shares. Does that not tell you what the true purpose is here?
I was asking a sincere question looking for clarification. I never mentioned you or the board, had you not jumped into the conversation, I imagine most people would neither have known or cared who I was referring to. I have no problem with you as an IR, but I do think you should admit it, say in the IBOX. I also have a problem with your extended "job interview" on the PHMB board.
In MY opinion, professionalism is not just how well you do a job, it also includes the job itself.
As for my motivation, please stop speculating, some people get hooked on soap operas, I like the ever evolving sewer that the company currently called PHMB is.
Excellent questions, why not let prospective stockholders know what you've got? It could generate more interest than all their "stock awareness" programs...but only if they really have something. So far the only thing they've announced it the Petscreen test which is neither propriatary nor exclusive. (and Petscreen is so impressed with this major, LOL, affiliation, that they haven't even mentioned it on their web page.)
I think the answer is obvious, all they have are vague and misleading PR's, plus a CEO with a known history of failed companies.
Yes, I agree.
Does an IRP who becomes the paid Investor relations person for a company have to report that fact? What about an IRP group that sells advertising on their web page to that same company?
Is putting expected compensation in an IRP's disclosure statement a requirement or just something a few of them do?
Not according to your disclaimer which can be found at the bottom of this page
http://www.pinksandbb.com/PHMB.aspx
an "unaffiliated" (LMAO) third party paid for your company to profile PHMB.
I do commend your web page designer, the information cannot be copied and posted, very clever.
I do notice that the ibox does NOT give a name for the IR person, why not? Just an address and Phone number. Had you not said you were the in house IR person, no one would ever have know. How curious.
But they have received compensation for an ad placed on their website. And now you are the "in house" IR person? oh my.
Is this a message board for discussion, or an extension of the company? One must wonder. That would give any skeptical investor cause to pause. If two of the moderators can be directly tied to company compensation, previously not mentioned, would could be going on???
I'm certain that you know better than I exactly what compensation was received, since it is not on the disclosure statement, as of now, would you care to disclose what compensation pinksandbb.com received?
http://www.pinksandbb.com/PHMB.aspx
Saw it yesterday, couldn't find it today. Must start bookmarking these things. (in all fairness, I've been very busy this week, not a lot of time to spend on this soap opera) But they do disclose that they received free trading shares for the ad placed on their website.
Not to mention the 2.5 million(I think, I could be wrong) given to Pinksandbb.com this week? ANOTHER "stock awareness" promoter
and a well loved IRP on IHUB as well as this board.
By the way, when exactly do the disclosure requirements kick in?
So the CEO says that 33 million on Oct 22, plus 15 million in Nov. equals 33 million. ROFLMAO
At least that's consistent with his business background. No wonder we've found 4 corporations that are no longer in operation
that he's been in control of.
WHAT do you think the CEO is going to say??? I'm diluting, so don't buy the stock??? If it is not in the public record, it is NOT DD nor does it have any meaning. This company DECIDED to go non reporting, then it DECIDED to gag the TA. Can you give one valid reason for this?
All of your links are over one year old. With the exception of one on Graeme Radcliffe, who does have a nice resume. Their web page has not been updated in over a year, clearly they are not impressed with this new "Initiative" with PHMB. At least they had not updated their web page as of last week.
And once again, you caught me being fast and sloppy, I did say PR.
Sorry, I've been through three or more versions of the web page and numerous PR's. Occasionally, I forget where the information came from. But, I can usually find it and provide links.
Have you found ANY links showing that the Petscreen Lymphoma test is currently being sold? Or any links that say it is a worthwhile test?
Try reading their web page! here it is
Immediate growth plans project at least two such centers open in 2008. Following this period, PharmaCom BioVet, Inc.
As for Petscreen, they haven't issued a PR in around 18 months, and I cannot find their product for sale anywhere on the internet, can you? Can you provide a link?
The only info I found on them was that their test was so unreliable (17 out of 20 false positives as I recall) That it was a joke. Certainly, Petscreen, ltd took down the results page on their website.
If their Lymphoma test is so great, you should easily be able to provide a link proving it, Where is the link?
This test was introduced in 2004, or 2005. Certainly that is enough time for great news to spread... if there was any great news.
So you have nothing to post than can show any measure of competence by the CEO? Thank's for the info.
However, there are people out there who are still doing DD, they should be allowed both sides of the story. No one has been able to dispute anything I've posted, (ok except for the terminology error, I thank you Breharb25 for correcting me...really)
This thing stinks, The prior PR's called for TWO (not too) clinics by the end of 2008. In Oct. they were in negotiations with WSU to open a clinic, but lately, WSU has not been mentioned. Why not?
There are no clinics, imo there will be no clinics.
Petscreen ltd. Cannot even be verified as an ongoing company.
What else have they got?
So opening pet stores is hard, but running a multi facility science intensive operation is easy??? LMAO
If you have a PROVEN inability to manage a pet store,why would anyone think you can run a major operation?
If anyone wishes to dispute that Berthold is a failed businessman, please provide links to any of his corporations that are still active.
The only two I can find are Pharmacom Biovet AND Pharmacom Biovet Cancer Centers, ltd. (Both in Nevada) Now WHY does anyone need that many Pharmacoms?? not to mention the one in North Carolina?
Please tell me what error is in that post? You cannot verify the share structure with a gagged TA. Since the initial report issued in oct,
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=phmb
(look at the initial report)
there have been 15 million or more shares issued to stock awareness programs.
http://www.otcreporter.com/Reportdetails.asp?rptid=185
bottom of page
http://www.otcreporter.com/Reportdetails.asp?rptid=185
3rd paragraph from the bottom
http://stockreads.com/Stock-Newsletter.aspx?id=5178
last paragraph
There are others, but you should get the drift by now.
I will admit to an error in terminology in an earlier post when I used the term O/S instead of float.
Feel free to try to dispute any thing else I've posted.
As I posted earlier, That share structure information is completely out of date and the current share structure is unverifiable since the TA is gagged and has been for weeks.
We do know that at least some 15 million shares have been added to the float since those numbers were reported in October.
That's not a good method of DD imo, what do you expect the company to say? They have a vested interest in talking you into buying the stock.
But at least, you should only put verifiable information in the Ibox. There is no public source for your claim of a share structure as of Dec. 6. and if the company told you that the O/S was only 33.5 million as of Dec. 6th, then they are clearly lieing. Since we know that paid promoters were given millions of shares in November. And that the 33.5 million figure was the O/S after the Reverse Split.
The TA is gagged, you have no valid source for claiming that the OS is updated as of Dec. 6, 2008.
That disclosure statement is dated Oct.22, 2008, NOT Dec. 6.
Since then 10 million shares were given to otcreporter., 2.5 million to first equity group, .5 million to wily wizard, and others I can't remember at the moment.
Clearly you are using outdated information, the only remaining question is why you persist in claiming it is accurate as of Dec. 6.
With a gagged TA, there can be no current confirmation of the share structure.
By the way, why not put in the Ibox that there are 20 million shares of preferred stock with nothing known about that stock as to ownership, voting rights, or conversion rights if any.
That share structure was posted prior to at least 15 million shares being given out to "Stock Awareness" companies. It is not correct.
The TA is gagged, so there is no way to know what the current share structure is. The claim that it is correct as of Dec. 6th is not true. The TA has been gagged for weeks.
Back to even as someone with lots of shares starts dumping, I wonder who that could be? The company? or did they hire ANOTHER "stock awareness" company?
The Shareholders have been doing relatively little selling, the big volume has been caused by the dilution of after hour trades and paid promoters free shares. From OTCreporter to wily wizard to peotany to pinnicle to at least one IRP group, and others.
Who knows when PHMB will feel the need for more "stock awareness" programs? Or need to raise funds for payroll. Of course if you prefer, you could assume that the company needs to raise funds to start up the clinics they keep talking about.
This stock has lost 90% of its value since Berthold took over, looks like another in his string of business failures.
all in my opinion, of course.
Bottom line, none of his known prior companies are still in operation.
As far as the pet store in NC, I called all numbers found, I was doing a search on the Animal Zone when I stumbled across a post by the former manager, I did not book mark it and haven't found it again. Please feel free to show where the "Animal Zone" is still in business.
If Berthold's business background was at all impressive, don't you think that he would have listed it on his Bio with PHMB?
Everyone can draw there own conclusions. Mine is that he has never run a successful business operation.
I called the pet store in NC, the number had been disconnected. That was the origin of the "Pet store with the disconnected phone" I also found a post by someone who claims to have been the manager of "Animal Zone" Berthold's store in NC, he said the store closed because the owner thought that moving a retail location often was a good way to build business(sarcasm implied). (I have since been unable to locate that post) However, there are at least two different addresses that can be found for the "Animal Zone"
As for the Ohio and Florida companies, when a corporation is administratively disolved for failure to pay taxes, I consider that a failed corporation. You may, of course, draw your own conclusions. Kilgore has given you the info on how to double check our information.
Here's some DD, please let me know if you can dispute a single fact that I have posted.
As for the company's business plan??? LOL, they took that down months ago, it was laughed at so much. Their original plan called for millions in sales by the end of the first year. It seems that $7 million plus in sales equals 10 doggies a week. While the REAL Canine cancer clinic will only treat one a month.
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I'm extremely curious, what great things have you heard? Specifically.
Absolutely agree, a gagged TA is the death knell. The after hour sales support the theory that dilution is occuring, and any one who has followed this stock knows that it used to move on very little volume. Now it takes millions to show any movement. A sure sign of dilution.
Well it can be expensive paying 7 employees, when you have no operations and no revenue, other than selling stock. Of course they are saving on rent, I think P.O. Boxes go for around $70 a year. LOL
Excellent Post!!! My point exactly, no company that is not diluting worries about gagging the TA.
Any one who disagrees with this needs to give a VALID reason for gagging the TA
I have no doubt that is the plan.
by the way, Love your closing.
Always good to hear from you, IMO, OF course!~ :)
(we really have to start fighting again, I'm not this nice, AND!!!! I might be a liberal, or at least a libertarian :)