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That just tells me there was more 504 left than there were shares to finish it off. Now that doesn't mean they couldn't issue free trading shres but as someone noted it dilutes the insiders holdings too.
Remember what we have here. If you are afraid of r/s know the reasons why and don't be one of those once burned twice shy people. We don't have a 'cats.com' from the bubble days here.
If they company were to do a strategic r/s it would be better after they have demonstrated revenues and that the business model is working, FRPT case in point. If they r/s just to raise cash then the pps will collapse.
L2 .007 x .0075 2 x 7 w/ask getting hit with small buys
CD we would all feel better if you had a buy order for 200M shares at .0065 - so big they can't whack it out. BTW good to see you away from that SPZI. Not a healthy situation over there at all. Hope your grandma is comfortable at least.
Who knows ! It seems like either these guys don't have a pot to piss in, or are out greasing everyones palms with shareholders money. Their whore's money.
This has the stench of MBAH around it.
Go where ? Those .006's are sitting there like fish in a barrel. Lets see if the company (or freetrading shares given by the company) whack those out too.
Not your shares, the company is dumping, dumping, dumping. Plenty to get lots cheaper. Just hold on to your YOUR shares tiger1. Don't do a thing, just sit there.
Its not shorting - its wholesale dumping and raping of the shareholders. The shareholders are nothing but whores to these clowns. Maybe a pick up at .0055
Congrats to todays buyers !! Not only did you buy at the lowest possible price, but you are an instant bagholder and are almost guaranteed to lose most if not all your investment !! IMO
Depends on your time frame. If you are looking for a pop tomorrow or even next week, no its done for you.
Well, west was using a subjective term 'peanuts'. Its just describes what could be gotten for them.
Right now there is still a lot of volume - it will eventually die down as buyers gradually fade away. When the company can't sell any more it will be time to look for another r/s. Still a little early, don't think we will break the record this time around as I can see this go on in this state for a few weeks or so.
hdogtx - can you tell if anyone owns the shell ? Does Dean ?
j/k I means Dart paints nice pictures but the game has changed recently. What should be a good chart now might not be. Back in 1999 moves like this would continue but not now.
Its called a Dart Chart Fart (tm)
Works for some of the individual pages, though the main page says its down I guess because it needs updating. Howard is at the Builders show in Orlando so I would expect this might not be taken care of until he gets back.
I know he got out of the generator business so this page needs updating.
http://www.chdt.us/obs.htm
www.chdt.us is the correct page
www.chdt.com is not theirs
Hmmm . . . they could be running low on their 1B registered shares. If they delay filing another S8 and run out, they could release some fluff news and we could see this back at .0001/0002 will see. It could give people some hope this can recover before they can get more shares registered to dump and wipe out the bids again for good. Be on the lookout for another S8 or SB/2 possibly. If you got your order filled at .0001 in the last few days there is still a small chance you can sell back at .0001 and get your money back. If the ask gets to .0002 you will be competing with everyone and their cat selling at .0002 - and I doubt many will be willing to buy at .0002 anyway. I think there could be some warrent holders trying to cash in too.
These guys keep putting out fluffbomb news and selling shares into it until the market finally collapsed. I bought some at .54 just for the heck of it. Not so sure now if that was wise.
You mean annual report 10K - should be coming up about Feb 15 I guess ?
No not an expert, but I am around this stuff a lot. I was in CKYS as recently as last week, but I sold out soon after the delay in the Today Show appearance was announced. But I could have easily been in. I have not been so lucky in other
'investments' like RMEC, BOCX, many others.
I can't believe people would take that at face value. Whether or not it is a stated objective of the SEC investigation, IMO it will be scrutinized.
At least that. You know MM HDSN Hudson sold over 6 million dollars worth of stock during 2006. IMO some kind of answer to that needs to be found, and they need to come clean on the share structure which IMO they have not done yet.
A couple of years ago BOCX was suspended for about 2 weeks while claims of cancer vaccine, etc were investigated. They were reinstated without any real explanation form the SEC but they lost their listing and had to go to the pinks. They lost a lot of value but they have recovered somewhat over time. IMO BOCX is a legitimate company but they stretched the truth a little too much in their claims. CKYS posting of unaudited financials IMO was the straw that broke the camels back, same kind of nonsense that SLJB was doing. They could start trading again after suspension is lifted but there is a high chance they will trade on the greys with no market makers. Not good. BCIT, CSHD, and HVLN are all trading on the greys right now.
Ohhhhh, yes. And look who got suspended by the SEC today.
Well it looks like about 350M shares were dumped into the fluff news this morning, wiping out the bid at 10:24 Eastern Time today. There are 4 MM's at .0001 ask. IMO we will not see a bid again here until the next r/s. Good luck.
IMO the dumper is still out there and could slam this at any time. At the same time, the float is increasing and creating resistence zones that are getting lower and lower. I will be watching just the same.
Oh not that bad, really. Its a market I guess. It might not be the company that is paying the clown either. Could be someone who got burned when this was pumped by Lebed previously. But you would think someone who paid him $40K would get more than a email and a lmao-weeeee. The company gets news greeted by silence and a 50% haircut.
So in other words he can lay on his back and tickle his cr#ck as he frontloads, pumps and dumps. To zero. I wonder if his clients appreciate his lmfaooooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee as their share structures get destroyed and he doesnt do squat about it.
It would say the same thing if they sold out completely (0% ownership).
It might be the shell needs to be used by Feb 8 else its over and the registration gets pulled. That to me is the flip side of this coin.
"After all, for every 1 mil. shares somebody sells, they receive the grand total of $100 "minus commissions" !!!!"
That does not make sense.
Anyway whatever floats your boat. Have a happy.
It looks like Wachovia sold out. The SC-13G filing in Feb 2006 refers to an earlier filing explaining that they are no longer a 5% owner.
Thats the key, mkinhaw. They never r/s the authorized. And, they have issued themselves preferred shares that are never r/s'ed (the anti-dilutive clause). So Joey and the insiders are always protected from reverse splits. The common shareholders, and ever warrent buyers are cash cows to these guys.
Yes - they are many others too.
I would read Dean Dumont's posts on RB - his ID is DeanDumont. It looks like the VLNT BK was finally discharged in 2003. Apparently Dumont was allowed to buy the VideoLan operations from the VLNT shell and took it private and has kept working it. Maybe he is ready to merge back in with the shell, and possibly has some other acquisitions. In one of his posting he mentioned the new company would have about 3.5M - 4.5M in revenues the first year with 2 of 4 potential acquisitions completed. He also stated he would reverse split the shares of the VLNT shell. This is in post 1446 on the RB VLNT board.
Why don't you flog this to zero, like that WGLE POS ??
Yep. Bottom line is so far after investing millions of investor dollars to create shows and develop a brand name with Gina D, the venture has been a commercial failure. Under normal circumstances this whole project would never have gotten off the ground.
OK here is a threaded reply - all IMO, standard disclaimers apply, etc.
> If the company put the whole 1 billion shares on the market,
> they should all be gone by now, as this stock traded more
> than that, over the past three weeks.
Not all the volume is from the company selling shares. Actually the company apparently gives free trading shares to their consultants or employess as compensation, who then in turn sell the shares. A lot of the trading is also done between people or entities that already hold stock.
> wouldn't you think that some of the market makers in this
> stock know this too ?????? How in the world, with the end so
> near, does this stock still have between 14 and 16 bidders
> in this stock each and every day, no matter how many
> millions are being sold ?????
They might know, but they are just processing orders and really dont have to care. The market makers can trade between themselves too. A market maker could put a fake bid up as well. You really can't gauge buying or selling strength by looking at L2 as much as you used to. But consider at .0001 even 100M shares on the bid is only $10K worth. Thats not much.
> Even at 0.0001, the buyers are throwing away thousands of
> dollars if this scenario repeats itself again.
Yes.
> In todays world, other people must know that it's going
> to a zero bid, are they just tossing all this money out the
> window because they don't believe it will happen again, or,
> is there even a slight possibility that this company will do
> something different this time ????
Hard to say how many people bought into this after a r/s thinking things would turn out differently the next time. I bet a few did. There are some traders who will get in and out of things very quickly for a profit but I doubt many seasoned traders are playing this any more. There are too many other fantastic things going on in the market just to be focused on this POS.
IMO most of the buyers in this anymore think its something new, and do not know how to do proper research, and just jumped into this on a whim or just because it looked good at the moment.
> Sometimes when something looks like it's a sure thing, like
> the zero bid we're waiting for, it doesn't always turn out
> that way !!!!
No but it has for the last 4 or 5 times in a row by this same company. I still have a hard time believing it every time I see it but here we go again.
> Why not dump any and all shares they still
> have left on Monday, and "end it all now" !!!!! At least
> then it would be over. Regards, Florida
I expect it to happen in a few days or so. Baby needs new shoes you know.
Mind you, you will have fewer shares after the r/s and at a higher value. Its not like you will go to zero all at once. The new shares will then dwindle in value as the market gets flooded with new shares as the scam recycles again.
If you want to get anything out of your investment, wear your footed pjs some Saturday morning and watch Gina D's Kids Club and see what you are getting for your money. Its not that bad, really.