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I would love to still be waiting in Dec. The longer they live the better the result. I am confident that they will keep the lights on for this final runup to the readout whenever it comes.
How did you get back to Aug in your Chrome history. On my chrome I can only go back very, very tediously day by day.
I took up your suggestion and emailed ALL the senators not just those in my former state (I am now in Canada). did anyone else do this as well? Do the senators actually read the email? they all have some sort of auto return set up. Is that as far as it goes? I imagine very few get past jubior staff or clerks and actually come before the senators. Anyone know how this actually works?
Stork, what news do you mean?
Thanx RK.
What are "second progression free survival" as opposed to "first progression free survival"? And where is this "hard fact" found?
Thanx for the response diver.
Thank you very much RK for your full response.
RK, Senti, Flipper, could any of you please respond to iclight's arguments in this post concerning the 55 arm data not reported on, and the lack of updqates on the Direct patients. I do not know enough to respond but hope that you guys can.
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There is 55 arm data which NWBO knows completely which they've failed to present. There's each patients Direct data which the company promised to keep giving updates on which they have failed to present.
The company is a failure. Except for pumping money to Cognate.
If NW is not legally barred as an insider why would the counsel not allow it?
If NW is not restricted at this time from purchasing NWBO stock I wonder why would he not buy on the open market for several million dollars (very small compared to the $180M he already invested) to raise the NWBO share price to over $1 and avoid the delisting issue and average down at the same time??
Are you saying only one patient per site has been treated? That might work to explain why no one talked - there aren't very many of them - but then there is very little revenue to be had. If there have been many treated, self paid or not, then why didn't at least some of them chatter on line?
I hold a considerable amount of NWBO, but I am in Canada and the shares are in marginable accounts. I have not received any request to lend shares.
As I understand it if the shares are in a margin account the broker can lend those shares without your permission as that is already given as one of the terms of the margin account.
If held in a cash account then the broker can only lend the shares with your permission.
Is this correct and does my location in Canada have anything to do with it?
Why on Earth would the arbitrator rule against me, the victim, in this sad story and give me less than $50 per share to which I am clearly entitled to?
What about responding to the main points in my post?
And I am trying to tell you that if they delisted most of the NSS would just disappear. If it came out that 130% of the stock was outstanding to retail, someone would cough up the money because they made a whole lot more off of the MOMO. Your broker would just pay you the money and tell you to "go fish".
If you sell it to your buddy and he sells it back to you cheaper to bring the share price down
Those SEC 8K filings are from Nov 14 and only warn what might happen - NOT WHAT THEY ARE FILING FOR. They are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. NO SUCH FILING EXISTS IMHO. They are using these dated filings to scare you.
No, actually, you don't get it. What you are saying is that I can sell the Brooklyn Bridge, over and over, and get away with it. This will happen only if I am not caught. With NSS in a fluid market I can do NSS and not get caught as I will eventually cover. In a market that is stopped and not changing anymore post delisting, the naked shorters are easily caught and traced and will be liable for the illegal sale of shares they did not own or borrow and they can do nothing to prevent their discovery.
The only way it would be different is if shareholders owned more than 100% of the company. I don't think we know this.
"unreconciled liabilities" - my eye.
Let's be clear. The co is not bankrupt and nonexistant. It is a going concern but not tradeable on an exchange. So just which shareholder of NWBO are you going to tell that their shares are fake shares and worthless? Not the way it would work IMHO.
The INSTITUTION that lent out the shares would be on the hook to make those shareholders whole. They in turn would very easily RECONCILE with their clients for whom they sold short. Thus those shorts are very much at huge risk without being able to cover if the news starts looking good or they actually get approval. Those shorts may as well declare bankruptcy if that happens as their liability would be huge with no way to control the loss by covering. The rest of the loss would fall on those brokers who acted on their behalf.
I do not think you are right about not needing to cover. They sold someone stock who now believes he is a shareholder. they still have to make that good somehow whether or not the stock trade on an exchange.
Delisting - maybe not so bad?
I know, everybody will be screaming at me and calling me stupid. I am not really certain myself, just taking the risk of thinking out loud.
I know that usually delisting is assumed to be a total calamity, But perhaps in the unusual case of NWBO there may be a large silver lining.
I assume that delisting the co does not make it privately held as the general public will continue to hold many shares. What will change is that the shares can no longer be EASILY traded on a market.
Main benefit will be that all the shorts will not be able to cover easily. This puts them in the super risky position should the company look like it is about to succeed and they would like to cover BUT CAN NOT DO SO! This is even more risky if you are a naked shorter - how do you ever cover with no market to play games with?
A corollary would be that there will not be any more shorting of either type without a market to sell shares! NO MORE SHORTS!
The big problem of course is how would NWBO raise the capital that it so much needs to keep going? Well for us believers in the science and the likely success of the the PIII then I suggest that they will manage to raise the funds by private placement or loans without the benefit of a market, especially if they can show the investor positive info this close to success!
Bottom line, maybe delisting is far from the end of the road for NWBO.
Don't all scream at me at once for being so stupid! Thanx.
However, no one that I know understands how many people went or are going through H.E.
Anybody know when the last attempted financing gets straightened out with NASDAQ, are they bound to the share price of that negotiation, or are they free to renegotiate that price based on recent share price action?
I have large orders in but they are not getting filled! You aren't trying hard enough!
Probably the only cost to NWBO will be providing the vaccine. the University will likely pick up the cost of administering the trial and Merck will supply the Keytruda. so YAY, YAY AND YAH. This is super news with 2 more announcements of this sort likely to come soon (or they will be left out in the cold with Merck getting out ahead).
So why aren't all the Docs buying all the shares of NWBO they can get their hands on?
So why isn't he after shares to buy?
Any company with even a remote possibility of becoming insolvent will include this sort of boilerplate. It does NOT mean that they expect to go bust - just that the possibility exists. NWBO will rise or fall on the science and trial results - but not likely. IMHO. due to any other causes as I believe they will always be able to raise more funds (even tho it dilutes) so long as there is belief in the science and the ability of the trials to prove it.
I agree fully!
H2R, I believe you have left out a significant factor. When the estimate was made. Was the estimate of completion made a year before the est time for completion, or was it made just a month or two before the est completion as it was in the NWBO case recently.
Joey - are you serious??
So did Linda and Les allow this stock price decline to show how much of an effect that the wolf pack had?
Did she let the price decline to ridicilious levels knowing it would make the short cabal look even more evil when they announce positive trial results?
I hope so because I personally thought that would be a good tactical move.
NWBO files for a non-timely 10Q SEC filing. What do you think may be behind this? The delayed financing or some NR waiting to happen?
Where I am going with these questions is that if we will continue to wait blinded for the secondary endpoint (233 OS events) to happen then even if the primary endpoint (248 PFS events) happens in Nov then we may still not hear anything until the 233 OS events happen which will be much later (hopefully very much later). So does anyone have any way of estimating how much time it will LIKELY take between 248 PFS to 233 OS events to take place? And then we may again need to add several months for the analysis to take place which may further delay the news.
So I am reposting my prior post for response.
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sorry Flipper, but I am still not getting it.
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The primary endpoint will be evaluated when 248 events of progression or death have occurred
This sounds like what I thought - 248 counts both PFS and OS events - not just PFS events.
1) Still waiting for a response to the first half of the post - why are you ignoring that?
2) So to get an OS event we must have the following: 1)diagnosis of glio, 2) treatment by "external beam radiation therapy with concurrent temozolomide chemotherapy," 3) no further progression until after treatment in the trial (or they are excluded from the trial main arm?), 4) treatment in the trial, 5) progression, 5) death which now would count towards OS. Is this correct?
Btw, does randomization happen between steps 3 and 4 above?
Like I said, I am not Pyrr,
I am not misreading anything intentionally. If you have a better understanding please provide it - that is all I am asking for. I want to get to the real meaning here - I am not attached to my prior understanding if the correction sounds better than my own. As you are pretty well versed I am assuming what you say will make sense. So I am reposting my prior post for response.
sorry Flipper, but I am still not getting it.
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The primary endpoint will be evaluated when 248 events of progression or death have occurred
This sounds like what I thought - 248 counts both PFS and OS events - not just PFS events.
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Overall survival: In patients with no evidence of disease progression
I am not sure what this means at all. How do you ever get a death without prior progression of the cancer?
I do not get it. If they are not progressing what are they dying of?
You also did not respond to the first half of my last post.
Also I am a long with a significant holding - definitely not Pyrr.
sorry Flipper, but I am still not getting it.
The primary endpoint will be evaluated when 248 events of progression or death have occurred
Overall survival: In patients with no evidence of disease progression
I thought that the 248 event end point was counting both OS and PFS as events not JUST PFS. Is that wrong? So if there are two endpoints does that mean that whichever is reached first ends the entire trial and everything is unblinded or are there are two endpoints (233 OS and 248 PFS) both of which must be hit before unblinding takes place?