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Proven worthless patents. That's ok, vplm wasn't much of a Voip service provider either, for 15 or 16 yrs, was it? But guess what?..... It ALWAYS managed to sell lots of shares, didnt it. That's truth. Want some more truth?.....No one ever wanted the patents, apparently, except digi-phony-ca & vplm. Yet, as soon as digi got them, the very next thing was to get riof them. They wrote, in a filing that I read, that they no longer wanted to be in the Voip business & wanted to sell the patents for cost, which I forget now but it said that was approx $400,000. What?? $400,000??? What happened to the Emu stating years later, many times, that the cost was $17mm, paid to the engineers. I remember reading in a subsequent filing that the cost or asking price had gone up by approx another $50k. But again, years later emu keeps telling us $17,000,000!
If you followed this story as I have, there are so many rougue dot connections elements, it's a wonder anybody believes in the story. It is chock full of inconsistencies & falsehoods & empty promises & enticements. Imagine a carrot on a stick racetrack so large it takes 20 yrs traverse. That's vplm.
I don't know if you're kidding or what? No way for you to "switch" you're investments when your "investment" in vplm would barely pay for a motor home tire.. But if you're serious, I have no clue.. Not easy to be worse than vplm.
It's not just voodoo patents but it's a voodo business plan also...
Are these voodoo patents? Inquiring minds wanna know?
So where's the price list? How much is the asking price for the various patents? And how much for a license (no anchovies)
Haha..."smoke & mirrors"....Of course! It HAS to be that way in order to keep skatin'& keep working forthe REAL beneficiaries! That's why the PRs have always had that "SPECIAL FLAVOR" of funky wordsmithing & nonsense announcements.... Ive noted it from day one! Sneaky, shady, funky language has always been used and I believe that's no coinkydink. It's all part of the vplm "M.O." and there's so many instances of it, it's far beyond any "conspiracy theory".
Vplm patents are worthless & will never be proven different otherwise they would have been sold or licensed, at least by a few intelligent investors or service providers L O N G A G O !
And the only reason they switched their listed address from Washington to Texas was to help the get their infringement cases into Waco because of the bad outcomes in N.Cal.so they rented an address in WACO THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE EXTENT OF IT. Same kind of reasons they filed their headquarters to be in Nevada back in '97 as it was beneficial legally in some way. They didn't have anything to do w/Nevada. It was just for legal reasons. Same situ now with Waco.
No, they do not have an actual office there. Your friend apparently doesn't know what he's talking about. I told you they have a rented virtual ofc there, along with many other ppl. They pay $99 p/m to have the address listed & a place that handles phone calls. They have never had their own office. In Vancouver they also had a $99 p/m virtual ofc. The Emu has likely never even set foot in either place. I posted the address that vplm lists as their "Headquarters" on their website & right next to it I posted the address of the virtual ofc bldg. As you can see, the addresses are the same. I also listed the services that the virtual ofc provides so you can see how it works. It's just a rented address. It's called "Opus VO". Here's a link to it.
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It doesn't belong to vplm & if your friend told you their was vplm business there, he was mistaken. There isn't.
As to avatar, Emu sued Cameron twice in 2 different courts. He quit both cases right away after telling everyone that he would stay the case to the bitter end. He gave a whole story as to how he gave the whole screenplay to Cameron to try to sell & then never heard back from him and then Cameron came out w/the movie. He said it was a copy & stolen from him but it wasn't. He walked out the 1st day. Cameron said he was a nut trying to rip him off just like the others. Here is the quote from the Cameron camp:
"In court on Wednesday, lawyers for James Cameron and 20th Century Fox called Malak "deluded" and the suit, a "cash grab." "
He ran his hotel into the ground, bankruptcy. He hired his brother, who had been a known promoter of prostitution,to run the hotel nightclub. He says he is a partner in thorn bio med cancer research Co in Germany but extensive searches show no such company exists. The thorne name is famous for being in the medical research business and there is indeed a thorne bio med company you can find find listed but it has nothing to do with the emu. He is supposed to be an inventor but I have found no evidence of him inventing anything nor having the schooling or skills with which to do so on a technical level. His schooling was in hotel management. His Granville hotel went bk. He states he tested the patented technology with worldwide nodal testing (3 cities) but never has produced any results of the test. He says he paid some $17mm to some 25 Voip telephony engineers to create the patents but then said there was no money to keep digi-phony-ca going. He turned vplm into a classic textbook patent troll after vplm lied to the public & its shareholders for near 2 yrs, via bogus PRs, that now that they had obtained the patents, they would fold the tech into their own so called Voip services platform to become the biggest & best Voip service provider there is and would immed be picking up 100s of 1000s of new subscribers & 100s of millions of dollars in royalties immed. He did this in order to sell tons of vplm stock & get many new stockholders & once that was accomplished, dropped the whole promise. Totally reneged! And turned vplm into a patent troll instead, never using the technology and doing nothing w/it besides suing one company after another. There have been many suits & trials & hearings, etc. Vplm has lost all of them. And have never proven infringement. He has no sales, no licenses, no tangible products, massive deficit, massive dilution for yrs & yrs. Almost 4 yrs straight downhill, losing about 97% of the price. Pays to publish so called "op-eds" where everyone is blamed for vplm problems but has never taken any responsibility for any of the woes. He resides in a place well known to be a hotbed birthplace for many many bogus pennystock schemes, Vancouver. He has he gave many hundreds of millions of shares away to friends & family but tried to hide it by nkt filing the appropriate papers for yrs in multiple cases when they were suppose to be filed in days. He had a phony $150mm "offer" deal with his friend, dr Gil. It was reported right here about 2 mos in advance how he & Dr Gil were overheard discussing how they were going to take action to boost the vplm pps & then came the fake offer. He created that highly bogus "anti dilution clause" that did notbing to stop dilution & gave himself a huge windfall of shares for which he then used to leverage all sorts of services & deals. Finally, after yrs of it, he has ended it (probably forced to). The list goes on & on...
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Vplm consists of an Emu w/a laptop in a booth in a pizza joint in the hotbed & birthplace of pennystock schemes in Vancouver
They have $99 p/m rented virtual ofc. It's just an address for them & a phone #.
On 3/24/21 this was posted & is likely where I got
the idea that patents had been ruled ineligible & then 4got about it:
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3/24/21
No trial necessary when your patents are ineligible. As agreed by multiple judges.
Quote:
It’s amazing how anti Vplm argument brushes off the fact that they never got a fair trial...
Harry, this may or may not be what I've been talking about. In this ruling, the keyword is unpatentable. In the action I remember, the keyword was "ineligible", but the actionable subject matter sounds the same, so I'm not sure but this would seem to be the action I recalled. Maybe later, someone referred to this action & used "ineligible" in place of "unpatentable" & I read that & that's what memory got triggered
when someone recently insisted that there were never any patents ruled invalid. The part about the claims being too broad sounds right. Sounds fairly cut & dried to me...unless this somehow later reversed. The more I think about it, this is the action I recalled. And in the same way that I considered "ineligible" to be equal to "invalid", I think "unpatentable" is also equivalent to invalid. Yes, this must be it.
So much BS...... cuz so much time.....and so it just piles up into the mountain of bs that is vplm and its worthless patemts, it's plethora of fiat share prints, it's very successful selling, trading, giving away of and all that benefit from it, aside from all the poor, underwater bagholders. 24 yrs of it & its still got many yrs left in it. Gotta luv seeing the sales that keep it propped.
The only thing that's changed, over the yrs, is the so called product. Used to be some bogus Voip services, which then changed to bogus patents and a poster child patent troll!
Why not?
Absolutely not. I never said any of the patents were not valid. Your comment has zero connection to my agreement that vplm is fools gold. I've explained many times that patent validity has zero to do with efficacy, need or value. There are zillions of vslid patents that have proven to be of no value.
Oh, and the PTAB was well known & documented to be crooked. No question. Took them 3 panels (lol) and a full year to finally make that obviously paid off decision, never before or since done! It was a farce, the ptab was. But I still never said any patents were not valid. Patents are valid the moment they become a patent, until someone proves they aren't. Speaking of that, I think koh made some ruling(s) that effectively made some of the patents invalid. I don't agree or disagree w/her. I just think that anyone who calls her clueless is themself clueless & accusations of crookedness (corruption) should be substantiated by the accuser. If said accusers of corruption were themselves accused of a crime, they would undoubtedly be the 1st to cry for proof!
It began in 1997
butwhoscounting?
...and dance (around the truth)
No one else in the world has accused koh of being crooked or of any crime, So beware of the sources of such crooked, fake news..
"on the testimony from their “expert” witness at PTAB trails who admitted they’re using VPLM technology."
THE BIG LIE!
NEVER HAPPENED!
THAT WHY YOU NEVER SEE THE QUOTE! lololololol
Touched .012 today.....but "we'll never see subpenny again"... Lol
The only thing infringed upon are the bagholders
Fools gold. The perfect description of what vplm truly is. Says it all... And so many fooled.
As vplm allegedly gets closer & closer to claim construction and discovery, where they allegedly will prove infringement.....the guilty parties must be shaking in their boots.....and within seconds of offering a settlement. The signs are sooo obvious they are all about to cave.....
...................................not
Um, I DO say!.....and I have posted many of those PRs right here numerous times
Agreed... And what's preposterous is that it's not true that vplm has never proven or been able to prove infringement, as if it's someone else's fault (it's always someone's else's fault, lol) that they havent had what it takes to prove. They could prove it by themselves if they had proof, without the court. Easy peasy lemon squeasy. And koh also never said: "are you on crack"? The truthful quote was:
"I am not going to be running around trying to get 75 pages of briefings for people who are not going to be testifying ... I mean
come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages, (and) unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours."
That's right... One abstraction after another but thats not by accident.. The whole beauty & genius of this fiat share selling carnival is how abstract the patents were written to befuddle anyone. All smart associates involved with all the Voip service providers out there, who know how to read & decipher the patents, KNOW they are gibberish garbage & that's why none have ever bought or licensed nor are the least bit intimidated by lawsuits. Those that are being sued simply must aggressively fight back & defend themselves or risk major damages by default.
How can they license it when no one wants to buy a license? And as far as using the tech themselves, that's exactly what they promised to do, for nearly 2 yrs in order to sell shares & gain new shareholders, then do a full on reneg.
Lol I've been trying to get that across for yrs. Brick wall comes to mind
When that happens, you should consider the source......for future reference. Much of it is modeled after the vplm propaganda dept. They've been lying, misleading & manipulating for all these years. It's to be thoroughly expected at this point.
Went thru a similar experience for 5 yrs before vplm. Company was 50 yrs old. Was as intriguing, and fantastic of a story, if not more, than vplm. Fines, jail, kicked of the market in the end. CEO was not supposed to be in stocks again but I recently saw he is in almost the same type stock again. Maybe CEO again too. Unreal. The story was uber fantastic & unbelievable & backed up by the govt, lol! It went bk & came back. It was called TIV
Hahaha....10-4 on the recurring dream.. Another recurring dream is all those who keep on believin that ship is coming in....and keep buying when the price goes down. I vowed to never buy anymore shares about 5 yrs ago (or so). Do you know how much money I saved (made) by doing so?
Well, "negotiations" & "talks" & "offers" have been "threatened" by vplm for years but so far, nuttin doin
That's funny. The only way vplm has any money is to plaster dollars signs. Should prolly make personal amendments to the filings to "fix" the deficits & cash on hand lines. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Here is the info & data of what I was.talking about, from 2017. Looks like I was a bit off. Looks like vplm is asking for something closer to a quarter trillion dollars! And that's of course not counting the othe 50 to 55 companies they originally named as infringes (but then took the names away?).
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Voip-Pal.Com Announces Plans to Increase Damage Demands in
Lawsuits vs Apple, Verizon and AT&T
Company preparing responses to new petitions for Inter Partes Review
May 15, 2017 -- Voip-Pal.com, Inc. (“Voip-Pal,” the “Company”) (OTCQB:VPLM) announced their intent to increase the damage
claims in its lawsuits against Apple, Verizon and AT&T. Over the past few months, the Company has been reevaluating the initial
damage calculation claims made in its February 2016, lawsuits against Apple, Inc, in the United States District Court, District of
Nevada case number 2:16-CV-00260, Cellco Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless and AT&T Corp. in the United States District Court,
District of Nevada, case number 2:16-cv-00271. Voip-Pal has determined its initial claim for damages was calculated using a
significantly lower royalty monetization model than has been used in actual court awards of recent patent infringement cases.
Voip-Pal remains cautiously conservative with its newly revised calculations, using an amount 25% below actual recent court
awards for damages. Upon the lifting of the current stay pending the completion of the instituted Inter Partes Reviews expected later
this year, the Company may file an amended pleading to reflect the more accurate damage calculation model.
Utilizing the updated damages award calculation methods, the revised total damages sought by Voip-Pal from Apple would rise from
more than two billion dollars ($2,836,710,031) , to more than twenty-five billion dollars ($25,642,557,840) .
An award in Voip-Pal’s favor may also include additional punitive damages awarded by the court, up to triple damages increasing
the newly revised potential maximum total award to Voip-Pal to over one hundred two billion dollars ($102,570,231,360) .
Applying the updated damage award calculation method to Verizon and AT&T, the current damages sought from Verizon of more
than two billion dollars ($2,382,872,100) would increase to over seventeen billion dollars ($17,262,042,011) .
The current damages sought from AT&T would increase from more than one billion dollars ($1,804,795,745) to over thirteen billion
dollars ($13,540,863,431) .
Applying the maximum potential punitive damages, increases the maximum potential award from Verizon to more than sixty-nine
billion dollars ($69 billion) .
Applying the maximum potential punitive damages, increases the maximum potential award from AT&T to more than fifty-four billion
dollars ($54 billion) .
The complete monetization analyses and damage calculation methodologies are linked below.
The Company also reports the filing of five more petitions for Inter Partes Review (IPR) from AT&T and Apple. The deadline for filing
an IPR petition by Apple, Verizon and AT&T was May 9, 2017, one year from the date of the completion of service of process to the
defendants.
On May 8, 2017, AT&T filed the following three petitions for Inter Partes Review: IPR2017-01382, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No.
8,542,815, IPR2017-01383, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005, and IPR2017-01384, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005.
On May 9, 2017, Apple filed the following two petitions for Inter Partes Review: IPR2017-01399, against Voip-Pal’s Patent No.
8,542,815, and IPR2017-01398 against Voip-Pal’s Patent No. 9,179,005.
Voip-Pal CEO Emil Malak stated, “We will continue to vigorously defend these challenges to our technology and protect the interests
of our shareholders. Once the stay is lifted we will make a final determination on amending the asserted damages of our lawsuits
with Apple, Verizon and AT&T.”
“We are now faced with defending five new IPR’s, three filed by ATT and two filed by Apple, all on the same two patents we have
been defending for the past year. We are confident we will prevail based on the merits. We appreciate the patience of our
shareholders and we assure them we will persevere to a successful end.”
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I agree in principal, with what you're saying, however it is not exactly the case. The amounts of damages asked for in the original lawsuits was based on a certain formula. Then, a year or 2 later, vplm pubkished a PR (I might have a copy) where they announced they would be upgrading the damage amounts based on new, more refined damage claims which were significantly higher than before. They pubkished the exact formula for how the damages were calculated and how even tho it was much higher than originally, it still was quite modest in comparison to other similar lawsuits or damage formulas. As far as I know they never actually followed thru with the upgraded damages (one of many times they didn't do what they promised, which kind of makes it a lie after enough instances). If I remember correctly, the damages vs apple grew, in this new formula, from around $7 or 8 bil to around $12 bil, so on & so forth w/the other patemts. So while I agree with your premise that vplm asks for ridiculous amounts of damages, they still are based on what sounded like some sound principals & metrics, but that only works, if the patemts are "all that" and it's very very important to realize & remember that "VALIDITY" does not in any way shape or form equate to efficacy, need or value. It also does not even mean the patents are proven to be able to accomplish what they purport to be.
I've said it a million x but most don't seem to get it or agree and that is that validity means absolutely nothing more than it is indeed a parent. If a patent application didn't become a patent, it would be invalid for one reason or another. But once it is awarded patenthood, that inherently means it's a valid patent. Even when the IPR rulings occurred, it STILL meant the patent were found to be nothing more & nothing less than when they were originally allowed as a patent (which occurs ostensibly because the application meets the 4 criteria set forth by the ptab, as an arm of the USPTO. So the patents are no more valid today than they were the day the received allowance.
Never has there been shown any proof whatsoever that the patents possess any abilities to do what they alleged they can do, nor any proof they have ever been infringed upon. Therefore, so far, they have proven themselves (the patents) to be worthless ever since they were 1st created around 15 yrs ago. If they had such great value, abilities & power, they would've been snatched up long ago. And I don't think vplm has ever won any litigation for infringement or anything else.
That's funny... My 1st laff of the day.
I promised more monkey wrenches & they just keep a comin....
The more the news sounds good, the more rejection seen in the pps. Already today dipped into the one twos which is dangerously close to that which allegedly, vplm will never see again, ie, subpenny. It's just uncanny. It may be the penultimate, definitive example of the boy who cried wolf syndrome. What's that old commercial..... "the closer I get, the better she looks". Vplm version seems to be "the closer it gets, the worse she looks". I think Emu needs to show up at the courtrooms with free pizza for everyone! This is just kinda sad but no doubt it'll be characterized as just more opportunity to load up. Might be right? How low can it go? And I've seen alot of different pumps going on recently. They work about as work about as good as the patents, apparently. Vplm, a shorter dream, lol.
No one is afraid of the vplm patents. All the companies told vplm to go pound salt. If they were truly afraid, THEY'D JUST BUY THE COMPANY, DUH!
You can't use an unsophisticated, low level defense against a very sophisticated, high level fakery. In fact, it doesn't even have to be fakery. All it has to be is flawed. Maybe the patents were originally supposed to be "all that" but were later discovered to be poop. The stink spread far & wide and the industry became aware that, as they have clearly demonstrated, they had nuttin to worry about. Otherwise, intelligence & common sense would've given way to a sale and lots of licenses. No bout-a-doubt-it!
Lol, oops, I said it wrong but thats what I meant... I wanted to know why vplm offered this money. Sorry & thanks for the correction