does anyone have a pre-market level 2 by chance?

"You grab for an armful of disposable trees"

Love it.

i think it's time to buy more tsho shares. count me in.

haha, thats awesome. i never thought of using it for that.

If we all organize and buy a squeegie each after certain intervals of time, we should be able to track the number of orders based off our purchase order #s.

Oh, without a doubt. It doesn't matter how shiny the gun is, it doesn't fire until you pull the trigger.

I haven't been this excited yet. Is everyone going to buy ultimate squeegies? I think we owe it to the company. I'm going to frame mine as my first major, successful, and well-researched investment. :)

TSHO has a habit of executing properly though. The only wait that occurred was when they expanded their plans to distribute through multiple sales channels.

They also only put out PRs when there is something to report. No fluff. It might appear that it makes waiting longer, but it doesn't.

That's why I said he has no impact on any valid stock. He probably does expose scams well, but if it's valid, one person can not take it down. If anything, it will only help because he will further validate the reasons to stay long and strong with a good company.

As for the sales to pps correlation, none of it really matters until the infomercials are running and calls are flowing in. It's always possible for a company to pull out at the last second. Obviously, CEO Luniel De Beer seems to have the gears turning smoothly and it would take something catastrophic to stop it at this point. But since it's based on speculation now, I don't know how you determine if its overvalued or undervalued. Maybe someone can weigh in on this?

Question: Once the infomercials hit, we'll see a spike in interest and PPS. Once that's over, we're not going to see a real financial report until August. Do you think we'll see some periodic updates on sales numbers during this lull to keep the investors informed? What are common ways for companies to maintain their investor base in these situations?

In all reality, do short traders like Sykes really hurt us? Even with him crying to the high heavens that it's a scam, it's one person with a limited audience. And it will have a 0% effect on how many people buy the products. Then when the real sales and financial figures come out, the stock will correct itself to match accordingly.

From what I can tell, Sykes and others like him have zero impact on any valid stock.

I feel more confident than ever in TSHO. I find comfort in the fact that the board is getting all kinds of attention now, whether its good or bad. I'm way beyond second-guessing the fundamentals of this company. We know it's strong no matter who comes in and bashes it. So it is exciting to see people like Sykes coming along with a strong interest. This will be a tough stock to short. And even if anyone does succeed, it's proven that it rebounds almost immediately.

And we haven't even had a sale yet! We are absolutely golden.

If I felt I had a good company and wanted investors, I'd have it promoted too. I don't see how this is different than any other business.

Just what I was looking for. Thanks!

What phone # should I use to call skymark?

That's great info. Your position is excellent. When I bought in with my biggest purchase it was in the .60s. Then a couple days later it dropped under 0.50 for a while. I was a bit annoyed by that. However, I don't feel experienced enough to be jockeying for pennies as it grows. So I just assume stay put and sleep well at night.

I do hope everyone stays strong during this run and the next.

Do you think iHub will get mad if we start playing trivia games on the forum? I'm tired of talking about TSHO and need games to pass the time until next week.

GLTA is listed under the SSDAQ. (SuperSecretDAQ). That's where we are making our millions. It's like the Masons of the stock market.

I have a small position in ZVTK, but I'm not confident about it. They are late on filing their 10Q. I am seeing a problem at the top, and whatever is at the top always rolls down.

I was thinking the infomercial may be more for investor confidence. But I do agree, I don't foresee someone looking at a squeegee and then buying shares.

The August financial report is really going to be the objective evaluation point.

Daisy, I know you said you aren't in for the long haul, but where are you looking to exit? Is it after the infomercial if we see a big jump? After the first real report on financials, which won't be until August? You don't have to divulge, I'm just curious as to your strategy.

Back when I first got involved, the retail sales channel wasn't even in the picture yet was it? I know all direct tv products eventually go to the shelves, but I don't recall this even being a factor initially. Now that it is, it changes everything entirely.

This is from their site:
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TradeShow Marketing is a fully integrated sales company, delivering its own OEM products to market through four proven sales channels united by "As Seen On TV" style branding and marketing.

-Demonstration Direct Sales at Select Home and Trade Shows
-Direct Response Television (DRTV) infomercials
-Retail Stores
-e-Commerce Web Stores
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We're investing in a "fully integrated sales company." This is way better than any tradeshow or infomercial specialist. This is the kind of company that, if successful, big companies hire to improve their sales and marketing.

They aren't quiet, they were just loud for a short time there. This is normal. They don't pump, they just update on milestone stock prices and company information.

Just so I'm clear on this, people like Sykes are working to drive the price down before the first infomercial release. This way they can buy as cheap as possible then short it post-commecial when it's on the upswing. Is this correct?

If so, I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone has a right to their own strategy. With so many of us long, there just won't be that many shares for them to grab.

We're at the point where rubber hits the road. We can crunch numbers all day long, but ultimately, the actions over the next few months are what will tell the tale.

I personally think they will do well. The whole direct tv and trade show sales channels have been established for quite some time. There is no reinventing the wheel here. Luniel De Beer believes he can take his experience and improve upon it, as well as expand to other sales channels. He is also partnering with successful companies.

I enjoy the theoretical numbers, but it isn't what has kept me here. It's the confidence I have in Luniel De Beer. If I find reasons to waver from that, I'm out immediately. But I haven't seen those signs yet, so I stay put.

I think it's pretty normal for someone to get in and get out with a quick profit. If you sell your shares for a profit and someone else buys your shares and rides the stock higher, than we all win. Except curtly, I don't think he's going to have much success bashing here.

I'm averaged at $0.68. Some might consider that late, but I'd say I feel good about it because my confidence has never wavered since that point. Even if it slows, I'm not ready to pull out of such a good thing. I might even buy more. Still, I will invest in the next one incrementally as the value grows rather than putting all my eggs in one basket.

I'm also going to continue to add to my BERK-B position. I think Berkshire Hathaway is diverse enough to fill my diversity needs. I don't need 20 different stocks when they have 50+ companies in their list of assets (that's if the Wikipedia list is accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Berkshire_Hathaway)

With the low number of shares available, I'm not concerned about a big investor pulling out. It might cause a short dip, but it'll get picked up again real quick.

I really like Skymark's model because their reputation relies so heavily on every pick. Even one bad pick in a string of great ones could cost them millions in revenue. That's a serious amount of pressure.

You still got to do your DD though. Blind faith is a bad habit when money is on the line. That's where the iHub board fits well. It's collective DD so nobody feels alone. There's a phenomenal amount of research in play between Skymark and this board.

Have you had experience with other situations such as this?

This will be an interesting time coming up. Choosing how to balance between a new sexy stock with potential or an existing well-researched investment that is still not maxed out and probably not even close.

I don't think I'll leave TSHO anytime soon. I want to stick with it for at least a year from my original investment for tax purposes.

He didn't specifically say it was a bank that lent him the money. It may have been funding from angel investors or perhaps past business partners. I suppose this will be fully disclosed soon. Being public, isn't he obligated to report this in the financials?

The magic isnt in the squeegie. It's in the marketing. That's what we are investing in.

Is anyone willing to share their thoughts on how they will manage the balance between TSHO and Skymarks new pick? Since I don't have a lot of extra capital, I was thinking that I would hold off for a bit and try to do my DD as best as possible on the new stock. Once I feel comfortable I was thinking of a gradual strategy I heard of where I would buy x amount of shares for every y increase in pps. For example, I might buy 20,000 shares right away. Then for every 0.10 increase I add another 20,000 shares until I feel my balance is where I want it.

Any thoughts? This would probably be a good thing to consider before things get crazy in a couple weeks.

i agree. it doesn't make sense for them to squash their golden pick with a new one yet. it also creates a dilemma of how much to take out of TSHO for the new one or whether to at all.

i just assume they wait for a while. i'm in no hurry.

I know that TSHO seems to be solid in every aspect, but there's one part that hasn't been emphasized as much as the others, and that is the CEO, Luniel De Beer. Aside from all the great things I've learned here, I am 110% convinced that it all means nothing if the CEO is not strong. On that conference call yesterday, my confidence soared more than ever. Mr. De Beer is confident, cordial, visionary, and extremely excited about his business. Coupled with his prior experience, this just dwarfs all the other DD about products, sales, marketing, partnerships, etc.

We're approaching a point where some might think TSHO is overvalued, especially without sales numbers. However, there is a value placed on the management. For example, if Steve Jobs started another company and didn't tell anyone what he was doing, he'd still have investors lined up for miles.

This is why I believe TSHO is in no way overvalued. If anything, it is still undervalued.

I also noticed that the new website answers some of the specific questions we had. One was if there were plans to update it. Well he answered that without directly answering. Also, the site clearly states that direct tv sales is only one of multiple sales channels they want to utilize, one being off the shelf retail.

Personally, the website was my biggest sticking point to date and I feel a lot better now.

He confirmed that an average campaign brings in between 20-70 million per product. And we've been doing our calculations on the 20 million. So I'm excited to see that he plans to do better than the minimum and our calculations may all be low.

Change of any type is inherently stressful for anyone. Now we're changing. So even though the changes are good, it still elevates our stress. There's no good reason for it other than that we are creatures of habit and it's human nature.

So we should use it to our advantage to stimulate conversations and stay engaged throughout the process.

Looks good Maone. One other thing: do we know how many people work for the company and who they are?

That there's confidence in the company. Uptrends are over a longer period of time, not day to day. It also signifies that long holders are holding strong.

I for one am happy to see some pullback. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a pullback in a scenario like this mean the shorts are being weeded out? So they caused this large spike in PPS, but when they are all gone again, we may still be 0.30-0.50 higher than we were before the PR. I'd much rather see steady growth than these crazy spikes.

A couple of those questions seem pretty valid, if not all. We probably don't have time to have all those answered tomorrow along with other ones, but I would like to know.

Specifically, I'd like to know why the website isn't updated. That's usually a big NO-NO for any company who uses their website as validation of a real company. Maybe they've been to busy? Maybe there is another one on the way? Maybe it has no relevance to the company at this point? I don't know, but it's logical to ask.

I will be sending an e-mail on that one.