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its from all the funds buying... smart funds.. all 144 of them or my favorite, manipulation.. the big funds are collectively walking this down snatching up these cheap shares.. Ive never seen a more bullish message board while the stock has gone from 3.75 to 1.05 with it 5 pennies from a 52 wk low. I scratch my head
So if you didn't sell any 3 and held "tight" and held "tight" and even added more all the way to 1.05 what does that make you? I know the answer but I think you know it too. Ps I still never got that answer from the cowboy as to what happens come Jan 5 2018!to wmih common with no deal. For some reason no one wants to pen a answer? If ya don't know just say ya don't know? I think the answer doesn't want to be posted
fhwzeek593 said there is 144 funds.. there continuing to add, no funds have sold... these funds are the smart ones... now how the stock went from 4 to 1.05 remains a mystery without funds selling but one has speculated manipulation, via controlled manipulation or controlled walking down the price with sneaky small lots on the ask, so im told
this seems like a foreign language to me.. I own common stock.. wmih.. Im asking what in your opinion what happens on January 5 2018 to wmih common stock in no merger deal is done... 144 funds im told are in wmih common, why are they in the common? duh I know because they like me think its going up, but what happens to wmih common if no deal is consummated by said date.
My question since you seem the most knowledgeable... as a common holder only, what ramifications are there is no merger deal is announced by the Jan 05 2018 deadline... I think I and many common holders do not understand the ramifications
we need a post from AVcowboy to cheer us up.. when sept. 5 came and went it seems like the board mood went down... Im still waiting for someone to explain what happens come jan 2018 with no deal.. its looking more likely a option
no worries guys... I know all the selling is just like a mirage.. no funds are selling im told so Im just not looking at my account and remembering the 144 smart funds that are long and strong... who is selling, must be naked short selling, dunno... the experts on here maybe have an idea, I keep asking but they just keep pointing to escrows
mes wonder who is on the ask at 114k shares, cant be a fund... I hear they dont sell... only buy, but yet the price of the stock goes down 60% in a year
im guessing manipulation or as fwwzeek5643 calls it.. controlled price action has to be the answer, a stock with 144 smart fund managers just cant go down any lower.. I think this 5 yr waiting game is to weed out us retail and have these smart funds buy on the cheap.. so I guess its a game of chicken, who sells first before the deadline?? now what if wmih held out till dec 31 to announce a deal, man that would be some drama
so much for the sept 5 pop that everyone predicted.. alot of bulls on this board, many are still not answering the question on what happens when jan 5 2018 appears with no deal... many just point out escrows
Zeek3467 knows these smart funds inside and out, hopefully there not looking at there loses, I don't even log into to see my losses on wmih.
Steve here. First time poster. Should I add, you seem pretty smart on wmih. Do you run a hedge fund?
Lots of confusion on as too escrows piers etc. if 144 smart funds are in this wmih common it's gotta be safe. These guys are smart. Fwhzeke3322 points out these smart funds. Now although these smart funds been buying the stock got cut by 60%. Manipulation at its finest
Lodus, my short boss? Now that's some funny stuff. I'm a ordinary trader/ investor. Been in and out of wmih a few time but I'm holding a lt position. Another question. How can the share price be cut in half and many on this board are claiming smart funds never sold? I think the opposite. I think a handful of some poster are working for somebody trying to prop the price. Many on here are saying look at all this fund buying but the price went down half. Market is supply/demand driven. Simply said. Ask yourself this silly question. If someone was working for a short boss(which is the silliest thing I've heard in awhile and another silly one is the ole nickel per post theory) wouldn't they not be under a 3 post minimum account ??? Ps this is my 3 post today
zeek, I added a lot of 300 shares today to bring my cost average down, when is this manipulation going to end, its like a bad carnival ride that just makes ya sick to ones stomach.. is it the MMs with these 5 share trades on the bid... sneaky Ill say.. or is it these smart funds that keep stacking the ask trying to shake us little guys into selling thinking a big fund is unloading, another sneaky move if true, or is it kkr wanting more piece of this pie... It seems like im a kid again awaiting santa in the morning to bring the presents I want, now im waiting for wmih to strike a deal and see wmih open at 8.75!!!
one word lodus...Manipulation.. you been saying it... most say traders who are underwater always say manipulation.. now how can 144 of the smartest funds in the world be in wmih much less underwater on there trades.. fhwzeek345 been saying it for awhile, smart funds are just that... smart and we got to ride the coat tails for profit, now im hoping that most of here at least get back to par on this
if your bullish you say this is great.... if your bearish you can say someone sold it down to 1.15 i think there is going to be alot of disappointed posters come Jan 2018
not sure what your meaning is.. fwnzeek3245 said its being manipulated so I tend to agree with him.. to many funds in this to be near 52wk lows.. no other explanation other than manipulation.. these funds are smarter than the market.. please explain
blatant manipulation going on... 144 smart funds in this and look at all the wise posters on here... something is fishy with this price.. not sure what we can do
probably one of the 144 smart funds that fwhzeke3323 speaks about alot.. of course not sure whos silly enough to sell that many with this stock a home run.. must be one of the not smart funds... any idea how we can check??? it could provide important clues..
wonder how the manipulators are keeping up 186k shares on the ask to scare us small retails into selling our shares to them.. not gonna happen... or I hope its not one of the smart 144 funds who got panicked with the new filing put out monday.. What do you think fwzeke5342
last post for me today... the 176k is back on the ask... wonder if this is the manipulation again
yes.. i come to that conclusion.. there is no way all these people on this board and including the 144 smart funds can be this wrong.. doesnt work this way.. most of us are down huge on the common so not sure what we can do, im worried about the jan 2018 deadline, if no deal Im thinking them b shares get converted??? not sure, im reading between the lines of massive dilution, is this right??? what do we do?? do we sell and take the loss before it goes lower towards the end of the yr??? az is the guru on wmih but i dont understand his posts, i own common.. none of the other stuff he posts about
Im tending to believe there is manipulation going on... how can all these funds, most smart of course, go from 3.50 to 1.05 in 7 months... It all started with the 5cent bid ask spread... hopefully someone on the board notified the proper sec finra etc authorities to look into this
looks like yesterday was minor short covering or an attempt to lure in more smart funds to panic buy.. now its back to grinding lower but hey funds are buying, 144 funds are smarter than us retail... right??
JAN 5 2018 what does this date mean... dig thru the filings and look and research what happens if no deal is consummated by said date.... Im seeing on here that everyone looks up to poster AZ so maybe he can clarify for all on what happens.. not many answers just 144 funds who are smart and buying posts while the stock is near 52wk low.. thanks ill await my answer
last message for me today.. i say hold onto your arse... I think many are seeing what im seeing so we should see new lows and be headed under a buck sooner rather than later and when were sitting around .80 this board will be touting the funds who are smart, although if most would research who the funds are and see some of the track record they would see that smart funds have many duds as holdings but thats here nor there but anyway. good luck, hopefully we get a deal here soon
did you read the last sentence? Im a frustrated common stock holder like most on here seaarching for answers, but im finding out that most on here are just as clueless as me... not everyone is bashing, most are upside down and finding reasons to hold.. this company has $ 5 or 6 in NOLs yet cant seem to just find the right partner to merge, always a excuse as to why.. so ask yourselves why are people on message boards? do those claiming to hold 100ks of shares really own them? lol good luck.. like I said, i been patient for awhile but with 5 months away from the deadline I think your seeing why the stock is at a 52 wk low area
its a great buying opportunity........ a buy of a life time.... I hope it falls lower so I can load the boat.. and my all time FAVE Funds are buying..... all signs of investors underwater who post non stop on boards
its the funds... zeke says funds are all smart, funds are buying.. my advice, dont look at the loses in your account, there fake.. funds are smarter than us... wmih is a stock that when funds buy it goees lower I guess, I thought it was the opposite so im confused.. I thought a few weeks ago maybe a inverse market etf
funds are buying guys, I think for the past 6 months wmih is pricing in the eclipse, on reason other than blatant manipulation
manipulation. Usually when you buy a stock and it goes lower it's some form of manipulation. This is worth at least 1.75 as I'm told
Yes. All buying. No one selling You do realize that when someone buys it hits the ask. More buying means higher prices. Selling means lower. Your stock hit a 52 wk low.
Only stock I know where buying actually makes it go down. Lol. Gee Wally. Funds are buying. 144 smart funds most underwater
Have no fear smart funds been buying here! Happy 52!wk low. What a clown show this board is
Lol. Got news for ya. Shorts are winning the battle. Lol. This to the point of insanity on here. Price is 5 cents away from a 52 wk low and everyone on here pretends it's not. Check your account. If your in the common in the past few yrs your down.
No idea. I'm telling you what the bulls are telling us. There posting all the funds buying but not the ones selling. A companies stock just doesn't fall from 3.50 to 1.00 out of thin air.
my point exactly, but everyone on here are homers.. they have big money in the game and post to convince themselves they are right by reading post that fit there bias, its called confirmation bias.. we all do it, buy a stock and search for articles and opinions to fit our bias..now the problem I have is if there is just funds buying than why are we at a 52 wk low area, than the response is these funds are smart.. well so now every fund is smart? has anyone researched these funds to see how smart they are, some bought the snap IPO, and are down 50%.. appoloosa sold 1/2 of wmih shares a few quarters ago.. why? if they are smart and this is a for sure deal why would a fund do this?? but we only see all these 144 smart funds who bought and the handful of funds who added.. like I said, stocks that are bought hard and heavy go up. not down
This thing is ready to fall like a lead balloon. And of course at .90 we'll hear xyz fund added shares. Funds are buying. Many blame manipulation and do not understand how the market works. Can't make this stuff up
I remember mr Simpson from stocktwits.