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Such complete nonsense. Long haul COVID? While the world burns? LOL. Bogus nonsense
Hey why don't we wait to see about long haul COVID said Leo to those dying in Missouri and Arkansas and Russia and Indonesia and Brazil????
Oh- I get it- that is the only chance it'll be approved. Since it failed all important measures.
LOL
Leo and FDA fiddle while the world burns? Someone knows the truth. And it ain't good news for IP
60 day follow up is meaningless. Pointless. Oh sure, we will wait. And keep on waiting.
Prurisol? Did someone say prurisol?
When exactly will Leo let us in on the secret that C beat B.
Just keep on waiting.
Talk about a pathetic PR. It is embarrassing. Putin knows the trial failed. A good case was made to say that great results woulda led to trial halt.
We will find out eventually.....
I think Leo and IP and the FDA all know, somehow(C beat B). Could they really just allow people to die like this- all over the world-without a peek at the data? Seriously, no.
Putin knows and one day we will, too- the trial failed.
FDA/Leo fiddle while the world burns- only since they know C beat B(somehow, they know)
IP shareholders notified at a later date....
Eosinophilic esophagitis: just another disease that IP might address in 2030 if it still exists...
Putin: Correct the West is blinded. Also blind.
But Vlad?
Nyet.
FDA wants death and suffering? Really? Somebody knows it failed. Just not us.
nightmare of a summer continues as Indonesia is overwhelmed by COVID
Lucky they are so far away- it would be hard to say Leo is correct to sit on his hands and say nothing.
Oh yeah- the FDA forbids it.
Vladimir- what say you?
Please ask Leo for data now. Criminal to not help if IP can.
please IP can we move on to B UC? Please?
unofficially B v C prob failure and we will get official notice later. Otherwise, is it ok to let people suffer and die? When you have the cure?
We don't got it.
LOL "clout". No clout not even a smidge if C beat B in Russia. None . It will all be forgotten.
LOL we were gonna get a grant a year ago- already an entire year ago...
Pointless waits for unneeded data? Is that what the world needs now? Stupid adherence to protocol? Sure that's the ticket. It's only people dying.
So it failed. The rules would bend if it worked and we would already know
And then add 10 more days for 60 daysand then some indefinite number until finally, after Labor Day, we are told that it failed.
What say you about yest assertion that great data woulda led to a trial halt? Bound to be the case.
So it ain't great.
Trial protocol has to bend in the midst of extraordinary circumstances. Just my belief.
So I still believe that it failed
Putin znayet. Sorry.
Putin knows, even if you and IP pretend otherwise.
I also believe that somehow Leo knows it failed as well.
And to the point raised yest: great data woulda led to trial halt-
good grief. As the world burns I would be happy with former statement saying 15 or 30 days no adverse effects. But we never got that did we?
Because we are not gonna get it
Since it failed
Woulda been quite a story, but only if it showed clinical trial success, which is not likely.
Woulda coulda shoulda been.
And yet.....we up in the nice try category.
FDA wants death and suffering? When only pointless data remains to be gathered? No way.
someone knows it failed. Just one opinion.
The FDA is not that stupid or callous
I agree with that reasoning, but I think very good but not extraordinary would be reason enough to have stopped the trial
My logic is that Putin is no fool and would know if B was very good. And that Leo knows too it is not a clear winner- somehow.
Or else this delay in helping people would be unethical and immoral given the dire circumstances.
These not normal times not, even close.
Sure here in the good old USA things are better in most places.Like in my current state Massachusetts.
Those Missouri hospitals would sure like to have Brilacidin if it worked.
Which tells me it does not.
Rules bend in a pandemic as millions die and hospitals are jammed. You do NOT wait 31 extra days for pointless data. that it is criminal and immoral and unethical.
These are not normal circumstances
That is the entire point
Imagine! If someone thought there could be any violation of the sanctity of trial protocol!
Even thought the data gathered now means NOTHING
And we are in a pandemic, when rules change.
And millions have died. And hospitals are crammed in some places.
And rules are meant to be broken, in some cases.
Like this case.
Add it up : C beat B, we will be told sometime in the fall, maybe, whenever, whatever, maybe(Prurisol)
your reasoning?
Re: 4 million deaths and counting ....
Leo: Yes folks. When I announced long ago already that we would wait and wait and then wait some more for 29 days, and then 60 days, and then even more days for analysis- I was telling you - off the record-that C beat B.
Because it would be wrong to sit and do nothing while the world suffers and health care systems groan and more people die. I cannot say it officially, because officially the data is blinded and locked away.
Just one opinion.
surely you know failed trial=no more antiviral work for B? Only has meaning if trial succeeds.
Vladimir? you do not support blind adherence to a stupid protocol and pointless waiting? For the trial that was conducted in your back yard?
V- Nyet.
V-That was why I looked into the data. Because I am not stupid.
Gosh- so much fuss. It's only people dying.
Any large Missouri hospital ICU waiting area: we are back, live, with IP rep Leo
IP- Not to worry folks- I bet your loved ones can wait another 31 days. Right?
Family members- Actually, they can't wait . People are dying here every single day.
IP- really? Well, that's too bad because we have another- let me check my watch- at least 31 days to sit and wait.
Families- But the life and death stuff- the big data that really counts. You know those answers already, right?
IP- Well, we do have the data, I mean it exists, but we cannot analyze it yet.
Families- Is that how you would treat your family?
Commentary: Let's all pretend all is well and that no one knows even one piece of data. Nothing. Not one bit.
Even though all the relevant data is back and the world is burning with COVID.
What to do? what to do?
Hmm. Why not wait 31 more days, or even a lot more days and pretend that is the right thing to do?
Now there's the ticket. And there will be plenty of support for blind and stupid adherence to a pointless protocol. While people suffer and die-
And how much stockpiling do you anticipate if it fails?
LOL stockpiling chatter...
Putin says: no need to pile up the stocks comrades. We woulda already done it by now-
Could there be a better advertisement for big pharma than Russia running the successful trial for COVID?
The data left to gather are meaningless scraps.
Step onto the world stage and tell everyone- the cure was found in Moscow and St Petersburg hospitals with Russian scientists running the trials.
It has not happened.
So it failed, folks.
Draining would be pretending that B is a sure thing. That is silly mental jousting. How about we just hope for B UC?
exactly. It failed. And it will not help. Those things go together. The fact that we have not been informed of failure is what bothers me
the silly pretense that we must wait 31 days.....in a pandemic when there is no helpful new data. That is why we know it failed- that is baloney pure and simple.
The unofficial announcement - done
What matters is that there is pretense=cover up=they need to tell shareholders- officially- that it failed
And IP needs to move on B UC
Because I hate seeing Prurisol take 2
OK then. Please tell me exactly what additional data you expect to change key outcome measures by waiting 31 more days.
B beats long haul COVID, maybe? That would be all we might gain.
What a joke.
It's only people dying. There are advocates for many viewpoints. Including a pointless wait for meaningless extra data.
While people suffer and die.
But go ahead- wait another 31 days.
At the least. Who cares?
it's only people dying.
that's all.
And most of them are far away, luckily.
As if. B v C Trial failed and we will be the last to know
Large Missouri hospital ICU waiting room, late last night. Worried family members are anxiously waiting.
FDA rep: You heard it right, folks. We advise waiting 31 pointless days before getting even one data point from the B v C trial. That wait is meaningless and we expect your family members to die slow deaths here. Right here, while we do nothing but wait for data that we do not even need to know if the drug worked.
Families, coming around: You ae not serious are you? You have all the results you need but you will not find out if the drug is the cure? You might be able to help these patients but you won't?
FDA rep: it sounds cruel because it is cruel. And it is even more cruel because it is pointless. because the data we need and that you need is already available.
Families, slowly coming to anger: That can't be true. Can it?
FDA rep: We prefer adherence to stupid trial protocol to helping the sick and dying. We prefer family members suffer and die for 31 more days, at least. Even though it is unnecessary.
Families: pleaseget out of here sir. Now.