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Agree... winning the cisco would be a slqm dunk ... losing it would just lessen the damage
I agree they will likely wait until early 2019 to.reach a settlement. Just before trial
Other parties could be any of the cable companies
We won the iprs using the more difficult standard... so it really doesnt matter ...
But the new standard would apply to appeals.. which gives us an advantage
Id like pps to remain where it is until settlement
Absolutely... lots of time and $
Trade havent processed much in the first few hours of the day
? How is an opinion fake news
I agree. Weak hands who dont understand the worth of the patents and their shares have already sold leaving a lot is strong hands. For new investors or existing to increase their share substantially they will have to buy at a much higher price.
With consensus amestimation of future pps above .5.... moving to .05+ over the next few weeks is likely
I agree the case is not about win or lose but rather about how much
That is possible, however its more about the infrastucture muti billions of dollars in infrastructure. Huge cost to change.
Fiberoptics has already made docis obsolete but the cost of implementation make it not market feasible
Even if we only look at past infringement patents are worth 1-2 per share. The question is what is carter willingvto settle for. My guess, closest to the pin is .85
0.5 to 1.25
Great summary
Yes its really all thst matters
I suggest you read them
Based on all the pacer releases and the time it takes to put those documents / motions together.... have you read them all?... there is a lot of work product there
That was exactly my point... at this volume 1 buyer or seller can influence the PPS. Its not a represetaion of the value of the stock or the patents... unless we have much more volume.
Welcome BIll,
Love new investors who do their DD before jumping in.
Its all just noise... jumps and drops dont mean anything without 10x the volume
Anyone who wants to build a significant position here will have to increase their bids dramatically... only very small holders appear to be selling and not many of them
Thw ahreement doesnt expire...in 2020 carter needs to pay 5m...which is poket change compared to what he will get
Tda was the broker
My limit buy order for .016 filled at .008. Thank you!
Great post. Very truthful. This should put an end to the discussion
Thanks jbb
Maybe we get.so.e valuation data released soon
We know the patients are worth $1b easy. ~50 cents a share. The pps reflects just a few weak hands selling out of fear. Or possibly a few manipulators selling a small % of their holdings hoping to scare more.investors.so they can increase their position at a lower pps.
Only 2% of shares were traded over the past week. PPS means nothing unless you are trying to buy. ... it has nothing to do with the value of the patients.
Most know what they own and will not be selling so accumulation at these prices is impossible
Why in the world would there be an Reverse split. The company not raising capital, it is non reporting, all anyone cares abput is the putcome of the lawsuit
I know its hard when you could use the cash... but imagine how you would feel if you sold now and we settled 3 months later for .75 a share
Probably trades around 1.5 to 1.8, but the day to day is inconsequential to me and most longs. Key is progress with the case
?? What? His point was that he had a buy order in higher than the transacted price. and when one one sold it was not sold for the highest price that was offered to buy but rather a lower offer
If I was late to to get in on this stock. I would be trying to scare shares out of the hand of current holders so that I could get in on the settlement profits.
Shares are tightly held since the halt only about 2% of shares were traded. very few are selling (only about 4M)
With the massive potential settlement looming in the next few months the only way i could get a significant quantity of shares would be to try and convince current holders that they would not share in the settlement profit.
However, the rules associated with sharing profit in a settlement even with a company taken private have been posted several times, showing that The shares retain their value and holders of this stock will be compensated upon settlement or buyout, so I would likely only be able to get shares from very week hands who were scared bu my false arguments
Mods please sticky ome of the many posts explaining that in the even of the upip ticker being delisted the shareholders still own a part of the company and will share in the buyout / settlement.... so that we dont have to keep explaining it over and over
Agreed. Thats what it should come down to. That being said even at .10 cents a share thats only 190m. More realistic would be 1b or about .5 per share... we are extremely undervalued here even before the halt
The real question should be what will be the determined value of the patents in 3-6 months... thats what we out a %of the patent value.
The pps of uoip until settlement is meaningless unless you need to sell or want to buy
Its abosolutely similar, i can give you several other lower profile examples but not woth my time, as you will deny their relevance regardless of how similar... infact uoip.has more going for it due to the lawsuit than any other i have been a part of.
Key point
shares still have value if goes private. A buyout will require tindering of shares from holders ... that buyout $ will be the value of the patents with a likely premium... nothing else matters