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Do you think we will see something tomorrow or do you think it will be one of those things where we don't hear the results until a couple days later when the announcement is mailed out? Sorry if this has been already covered.
yes large corporations are doing the same thing with all small businesses. You can see it in farming and pharma big time as corporations pay politicians to make new laws to force small companies out of any chance to make a profit. They want 100% of the profits.
Any common sense shows it is good news. My point on the bottom line was that I don't understand the economics of the news to our bottom line. If that was layed out perhaps there would be stock price movement?
perhaps if there were some profit projected from this announcement the pps would be going up. I agree it is good news but I don't see what is coming to the bottom line as a result?
any chance there is a link to it yet?
Maybe after the Barclay's conference their analysts will upgade to a buy and lower their price target to 30?
I am confused. I have finally thought the stock is looking like it has some good room to move the rest of the year based on the guidance we were given but then Mpartners says they see this as getting near top of the range? Why am I so stupid that I thought the opposite?
Yes, we need to find a different company to take a high interest loan that isn't needed from.
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That sounds like a great thing vs the other way around to me.
Anychance you can summarize that part. I had to step away and missed the talk on the Arbs.
i'd be interested to hear about what their plans are in working with BKYI
Does this mean that after all this time there really is more to the Apple deal than meets the eye???
Weird...every market is Green but every stock in my portfolio is Red except nvtl. I guess I really know how to pickem. I was expecting to see IDCC green when I looked. Here's hoping for the next push into the 50s sooner rather than later.
I have no information, my guess is that the stock has really been doing well in anticipation of the events that are yet to unfold and as usual they are not unfolding fast enough and then as the stock started to drip computers and short term investors jumped out of it for now. Maybe a bit of a snowball effect from that.
I am thinking this is how Apple got that last deal done with IDCC
It also was very easy for you to say how well some certain other stocks were going to do compared to IDCC on this board repeatedly and then have them fail miserably. Can't have it both ways?
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I think we are sitting just fine. If we were in this for just a few bucks we would have sold already. Don't sweat the small stuff.
LOL Florian Mueller....I unfortunately think 95% of his readers are on this board. I am betting he sides with NOK on this issue.
+cash
where did you read this...was this someone's made up opinion or a fact that Nokia states this?
looking at Nok's stock price right now it certainly doesn't look like anyone believes that. Who knows though..I would think MSFT could do better.
While I think the market is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel...I don't know that we should be figuring out the settlement terms just yet. I am not convinced Nok is smart enough to settle this issue yet.
I'd take 50 more straight days like today for IDCC :)
agreed
Have to love that Nokia says that IDCC needs to offer Frand before seeking ban. They are not a willing liscensee, just they must do this for further delay in process. They were offered, they refused...now they want the offer again. The courts must see through this.
I think they have a LOT bigger issues than their idcc problems. Perhaps to clarify...I would say that IDCC lawsuit to them would be like you fighting your electric bill for the month...you don't want to pay the high rates that the electric company charges you and might fight it, but at the end of the day your electric bill is not going to bankrupt you. Be carefull that your power doesn't get shut off however.
I would agree to a point...the stock was up a buck or so at one point in the last day or 2 on no new news and no one was complaining though....they will move it where they want as long as there remains fear and uncertainty I guess. Green is good compared to red though.
I put some money into that investment hoping IDCC can work with them to make things happen...hopefully it turns out to be a good investment relationship.
perhaps he meant liscenses?
I did not own shares of Apple or any other telcom manufacturer...am I really wrong though..I will drop it.
I have been over the Apple deal for years....but obviously our litigants are NOT over it at all....nor are the people (were you one of them?) that continue to read Apple tea leaves into every other press release that turns out not to be anything to do with Apple. I was simply replying to again the bogus notion that nobody could have predicted that Apple wouldn't be some small time player in the phone market when we all knew the Iphone was coming. Not trying to be arguementative...but I don't think we should act naive lest mistakes are repeated. I hope I am not way off base.
my3...i understand that, I just don't buy the arguement that IDCC says that nobody could have said Apple would be a large player in the phone industry. I am sure you remember even at the time how excited this board was that we signed a giant company like apple and I think everyone was surprised what a tiny deal it was that they signed with them...everyone expected it to be much bigger and more to it than met the eye. I will be very interested to see how the next round goes with them.
There were quite a few people who were talking about how big the iphone would be for like 3-6 months before it was out. Huge chatrooms and fanrooms of people discussing how great it would be as a phone and revolutionary. I never understand this argument that no one knew it would be big. Did it pass expectations in sales...yes, but to think it would be a blip was naive by idcc. I hope it does not come back to bite us again like it has over the last 6 years.
Even Apple has used it in trying to get rates from other Patent holders. That deal has caused a big rift in this whole industry. I believe that someone made that deal more looking to take a big bonus for having % of industry more than any other reason. Especially considering the length of the deal. Next year will be very interesting for what happens with that liscense...I wonder if they will arbitrate for same rate or some sort of BS like that.
10k and Apple.....so a bunch of people were reading tea leaves from the CC and like usual to some it was becoming fact that IDCC extended 4g/lte to Apple.....after reading the 10k are we to assume that was incorrect? I see some positives long term if that is the case as there is still more $ to be made. Is it possible that they were still right and more information could still be coming out about that in 10q? Any insight into this would be appreciated.
Barclays...Gotta love how their report shows that the #s far exceeded their estimate and yet they will not guide up any.
#BusinessEthics
There are still millions of shares short and the people that control the price of stock also control most of those short shares....they need to figure out a way to make money off of this....IMO that is what is behind today's price action. I think we will be good within a few days and the #s all start to make more sense.
I see they changed the code to t2 which means news has started desseminating...would it halt just for earnings release??
ya that is strange...is it a mistake?