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Neal, you are correct, but for anyone that is new to this board... they do not know that. Periodically, someone needs to just post about his motives. You disagree?
Ok, if you will never own any shares, then leave this place. You are not appreciated here by most.
I don't own any Harley Davidson and you don't see me stomping around their boards. It just doesn't add up with you. You are a giant contradiction.
An observation... is it any coincidence that BT shows up on Sunday? No. Trading begins tomorrow morning. He needs to shake the confidence of a few people so they will sell and then he scoop up more shares on the dip.
HE IS A SELF-CONFESSED DAY TRADER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. DON'T ENGAGE HIM IN ANY DIALOGUE. HE HAS MOTIVES FOR WHATEVER HE BRINGS TO THIS BOARD.
Perhaps I should have re-phrased my question. It was my understanding that they were "auditing" shares to find out how many are o/s, etc. I did not mean to imply that there was going to be a formal audit that they would have to pass/fail.
As much as you like to instill those little bits of information in people's minds, you can give it a rest. I know you are a day trader and I look forward to the day when you leave here for good. Have yourself a great night.
Curious if anyone has heard any updates on the audit of shares. TIA.
If you are assuming that each person in that 180 million owns a tv, you are going to be disappointed. Why don't you learn to temper your enthusiasm and take a realistic look at things. Sure a worldwide audience would be big, but do some critical thinking please.
This type of thinking is precisely what got people's panties in a bunch when the "ad campaign" didn't start last summer. People were crying about no ads in the USA Today... somehow thinking that just running an ad in that paper would guarantee success.
Don't you think that the well-placed ads that Q is running are better than just throwing a big one out there in one paper?
Think what you want, just be realistic for crying out loud.
Yet people were taking his statement last week as proof that F.O. hadn't done squat. His denial meant a lot to them last week. Such two-faces.
Oh, that was not how it sounded, but whatever. Good luck to you.
You are going to buy more shares based on a riddle? Wow, you are brave.
I am still sitting on the shares I bought last Feb.
Things are building nicely. Can't wait for the audit results too. That should give us some idea of what we are dealing with in the market.
maybe this warning is having a positive effect.
3/28/2005 - RE: Message Boards
Management as well as investor relations have recently compiled a list of individuals posting inaccurate and or false information on certain message boards. Management has worked very closely with the owners of these message boards and they are cooperating fully with the investigation. Management will be sending these individuals certified letters insisting them to stop posting these fallacies or criminal action will be taken.
No information posted other than from the company or investor relations should be considered true. Management’s policy is not to discuss any information with a specific individual. All information regarding Triangle Multi Media will be issued via news wires for all investors to view simultaneously.
Foxy, do you flip shares on a routine basis? Just want you to come clean. Thanks.
If any newbies do read this board, there is a cast of characters on here who like to plant seeds of doubt. They are obviously day traders with an agenda. Don't buy into their line of BS, and don't just blindly accept what anyone else says either. Do your own research and make your own decisions.
I find it laughable that some of the people on here actually think they are being sly in their use of the English language to convince people. "They better....", "If they don't....", and statements such as that only serve to forebode of doom and gloom, which is what they want you to think. Price goes down, they buy in, then they are quiet and let the long term people happily post away. As soon as they want back in, they show up and drop their little phrases on us. Usually they are based on old info, or info that they themselves can't prove. Lots of times they just twist it to suit their needs.
That is all I have to say right now, just want any new investor to realize that there are a few different types of investors on this board.
You are showing your pattern of irrational thinking once again Smoke.
You are a joke.
Look, all of the people on here that are confessed day traders are just using this board to help them accomplish their goals. Buy low, sell high.
They don't care about Q. They don't care about long-term investors. In fact, they probably sit back and enjoy using this board to help the timing of their purchases/sells.
It's like sleeping with the enemy. The one good alternative that I have found is the Q forum. I'm not pimping that, but they will kick out anyone that has an agenda. I like that.
orafup, no offense but it's very hard to decipher what your question is.
I think you are saying that the pps right now is what people see as the value of Q?
Without knowing financials, most people have no idea how to value the company. For most it is just a gut feeling I would guess, based on lots of research and an attitude they have about the legitimacy of the company.
Govt is usually slow, so don't count on news coming out right after bids close. Personally, I don't want any dates anymore. Just surprise us.
Here is a film slated for Fall 2005.
http://www.gaywired.com/article.cfm?section=10&id=5722
Olsen would be a good candidate for this, no?
You should change your signature to "If you find yourself speculating on too many things for which you can get no answer... stop speculating."
And you wonder why people didn't reply.... haha
I don't predict those things anymore, because I was usually wrong... haha
I will say that last year the patterns seemed similar. You might research the run-up and take a look at how the pps reacted day to day.
There is just no pleasing some people.
Early this a.m., most people were overjoyed. Then we retrace and excitement drops. Then, based on that drop, manipulators come in to plant seeds of doubt .... again. Not saying you are doing that, just an observation of the mood today.
I have not seen one PR come out that pleased everyone, so frankly if a few people are pissed about it I don't really care anymore. I liked it. They are making it known they are a player and are serious about growth. Any potential investor has got to love their aggressive nature.
I believe they said they would try to figure out a fair market value, which is called negotiation.
Ever try to haggle with someone when you buy a car? They think their car is worth a lot more than it really is. Usually takes a while to finalize a number.
Interesting parallel: Toys r Us was initially unreceptive to offers (as PV is saying...), and later on they would not comment on rumor and speculation even when it was reported that offers were on the table.
NEW YORK - Shares of Toys R Us Inc. rose more than 2 percent Thursday after a published report said an investment group has proposed paying about $5 billion for the nation's second biggest toy retailer. Another report said a different bidder also offered to buy the entire company.
The company has been considering splitting its toy retailing business from its more lucrative Babies R Us operations.
The Wall Street Journal, citing unidentified people familiar with the matter, reported Thursday that an investment group including Cerberus Capital Management LP made an opening offer last month of $23.25 a share for the entire company.
That is lower than its closing share price of $23.05 on Wednesday, when its shares rose 2 percent after The New York Post reported that an unidentified bidder had emerged willing to buy the entire company.
But the Journal said Thursday that one person close to the matter said the $23.25 a share offer "may be an old number," indicating other offers may be on the table.
It said Toys R Us initially was unreceptive to the takeover offer, but the newspaper said its sources feel that resistance may be easing.
The Times of London reported that an offer for the entire company was made by another bidder, the buyout firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., which had initially bid only on the toy segment.
Toys R Us spokeswoman Susan McLaughlin said Thursday the company would not comment on "market rumor and speculation."
Messages left Thursday for representatives of Cerberus and KKR were not immediately returned. Other firms identified in published reports have either declined to comment or not responded to requests for comment from The Associated Press.
Toys R Us shares rose 62 cents, or 2.7 percent, to close at $23.67 in Thursday trading on the New York Stock Exchange (news - web sites).
Toys R Us shares have risen from about $12 a share since August, when the Wayne, N.J.-based company announced it wanted to separate the toys and babies units. It has given no substantive guidance since, aside from reiterating that an evaluation on restructuring would be completed by July.
Its toy business has been hurt by price cutting from the big discount chains such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the nation's biggest toy seller.
Babies R Us, which sells baby furniture, clothes and accessories, accounted for three-quarters of the company's operating income, despite logging just 15 percent of the company's $11.6 billion in sales, for the fiscal year that ended Jan. 31, 2004.
The Journal said the Cerberus group also includes investment banker Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and real-estate investment trust Kimco Realty Corp. It had previously reported the group was one of four finalists in an auction Toys R Us had set up to sell its toy chain. It said bids for that operation had come in at about $3.5 billion.
In addition to the Cerberus group, the Journal said other bidders for the toy chain were KKR; a partnership of Apollo Advisors LP and Permira Advisors Ltd.; and an alliance between Bain Capital LLC and Vornado Realty Trust.
The newspaper said KKR also is interested in acquiring the whole company if it is available for sale.
The Journal said a spokeswoman for Goldman declined to comment and that Kimco and Cerberus didn't return phone calls
It appears that in making bids for the takeover of another company, utilizing borrowed funds is common. I have been researching this and companies that want to buy will borrow $$ and "back" it with the earning potential or current assets of the company it is acquiring. If there is a source of revenue from the company they intend to acquire, that makes the people who ponied up the $$ feel better.
The company looking to acquire can also use its own assets as collateral, or the investors can put up money based on the pure earning potential of the new company.
I'm no expert, just wanted to share...
Takeover education....
"There are two different types of firms that typically acquire companies.
A buyout firm, organized specifically to seek out undervalued and usually distressed companies that they can rejuvenate and then bring public again, purchased National Golf. The process is similar to a real estate investor who buys a rundown house, fixes it up, and then resells it.
The other type of acquirer is a growth company that employs acquisitions as a part of its expansion strategy."
from www.winninginvesting.com
thanks fire, sometimes people miss those things. Read the PR's closely and you see it. No worries.
Are you psychic? On what do you base your well-thought-out theory?
Interesting scenario.
Here is what I think:
I don't know. hehe
So many possibilities.....
I'm sure he consults with his receptionist before he submits a bid.
My old bosses would always be in closed-door meeting figuring out ways to develop their company. It was like their baby. They would drop news on us, their employees, only after it was a go. Why would Q be any different in their approach?
We are not privileged enough to be included in their negotiations, so how do we know that this is not just posturing? Oh I forgot, posturing never goes on the real world. haha
According to someone from the CBS board who is reliable, Q is just awaiting final word from the sec of state of WA before it will release a pr on the retirement of shares. Do your own dd.
Just in general. I have not ever been able to listen to on Q Live from the website. My computer sucks. Just curious about the programming, in that the schedule was taken off the website.
skunks, did you notice that the program listing was not on the Q website today? Are they running repeats?
froy, you are correct. the majority of peeps on this board see through the bs.
The rest live in a daytraders echo chamber...haha
Unfortunately, I had to take BigTips off of ignore, as I am not a paying member and ran out of space. Now this post is going to have me re-prioritize that list.
How can something from 1999 be relevant to today? Are the same people involved now (Rene, Lamont, Richard the IR guy...etc)? No. This is current Q, and you love to reference old Q.
You "play the game" and that is your job I guess. I don't "play the game". I bought my shares and am sitting on them. I am just waiting this thing out and hoping that bottom-feeders drop out of the mix over time.
As long as this company shows signs of sustained growth, which it has, I feel compeletely comfortable with my investment.
Take a look at the bid for Pride any way you want to. Personally, I won't comment on it until it becomes factual. If it was a red herring, it was a dam good one. I must say that I tend to believe they are going after some type of acquisition because Pride is ripe for the picking. It's not like they are making a bid on some company that is not interested in selling.
Seems like everyone has a "hunting license" with TW.
firefight, honestly... if you were a cable carrier, would you jump in bed with Q without scrutinizing the hell out of them first? I wouldn't. No wonder it takes so long to get this done. Q is a penny stock company, who has to prove itself. The big boys are not going to put themselves in a position to look foolish.
That article was good, thanks.
I like the news for the day. I'd love to know how many are bidding on Pride. Staying optimistic...
I agree. Although I have not seen them in action, it is clear that they are piecing together something unique, and you don't put all of this time and energy into something unless you care about it a lot.
For all those slimey day-traders on this board, you make me sick. Go find a new penny stock to occupy your time. This one is going to break loose from your f'd up attempts to make money at the expense of honest people.
Oh and for people that may have only been around a short time, it seems that perspectives change the longer you are around this stock. Concern yourself with the potential of the company and the manner in which it grows. The pps is being manipulated.
Speak for yourself. I believe in f.o.