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Well said, the mass exploitative nature of it dovetails with the capitalist idea of squeezing every last drop
maintained exquisitely by a manufactured insecurity
One only needs to be aware of to sidestep
3rd of 5 tonight for those unlike Fuagf who already listened to the series in 2023 🙂
https://subscriptions.cbc.ca/newsletter_static/messages/ideas-newsletter/2023-11-17/
That long 😶. I'll defer to your better judgment then ..
They need a come to Jesus experience - not the nonsense being peddled that couldn't be farther from Trump's shallow "soul"
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=ed219b31d6377477&sca_upv=1&q=trump+as+religious+saviour+images&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0CRraR4AFMOJtZDUPiZk_hDEGW7EwGJ8ltzg0fUf3C5Xd1mhrcmUZ_z_Gw36zS3CIPG8xCRAefxrRYeluhQGyKyJmlTO0zgFWYJ90EHfF9J0C9TxZw9GSEMucDwobS1Kn7CvbpdRqSuB9i9sRMNuzwOPGMZJaTGds-9WuvfyoQdaGBXltLW8p7OkrLqC2iIPN4_U-tdIEGb1Z4ergQNfTdQudlkyw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJzoKT2LuHAxXMk4kEHe5ACKIQtKgLegQIERAB&biw=1536&bih=767&dpr=1.25#vhid=yTgFgVuYCnGcUM&vssid=mosaic
Sorry if this is a mess but some graphics that don't seem to transfer well...
How Democrats can pick a new candidate, step by step
Delegates will choose a new nominee now that President Biden has stepped aside, possibly at an open convention in August.
7 min
By Bonnie Berkowitz
,
Szu Yu Chen
and
Adrián Blanco
Updated July 21, 2024 at 2:39 p.m. EDT|Published July 21, 2024 at 6:00 a.m. EDT
Now that President Biden has decided to end his campaign for reelection, there are two paths for replacing him at the top of the Democratic ticket.
One is a virtual vote that would lock in a new nominee in early August, and the other is an “open” convention, a scenario the party hasn’t experienced since 1968.
A convention is open when no candidate arrives with a clear majority of delegates, so the event turns into a mini-primary in which contenders scramble to persuade delegates to vote for them.
The potential for chaos is high, and the time is short. Some states have August deadlines to get on the ballot for the general election, and early voting begins in some places in September. So party leaders probably will try to settle the nomination before the Democratic National Convention begins Aug. 19.
Here’s how the process could play out.
Lol, you will have to somehow figure out how to put what is inbetween the ------------- lines into this chart which doesn't supply the text!:
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Biden dropped out of the race on Sunday.
His delegates are free to vote however they would like.
Biden doesn't endorse anyone
Biden endorsed Vice President Harris
Biden’s delegates aren’t obligated to support Harris, but they may be inclined to do as he wishes.
Additional candidates may see an opening to jump into the race.
Efforts at unity
Party leaders will try to convince delegates to coalesce around one candidate.
An early vote?
The party has planned a pre-convention virtual vote to officially nominate Biden. It could be delayed or canceled.
No vote
Vote
No majority
majority
The decision will be
made at the convention
The nominee is chosen
before the convention
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Who will pick the nominee?
A few thousand delegates representing voters officially decide on the party’s nominee, whether a convention is open or not. Typically they choose the winner of the primaries — that’s what they are sent to do — so it may feel as if the voters choose directly.
Follow Election 2024
But now that Biden has left the race, all his delegates are free agents and will choose a candidate on their own without voter input.
Democratic delegate vote allocation by state
3,949 delegates
749 superdelegates
crap again:
[imghttps://gfx-data.news-engineering.aws.wapo.pub/ai2html/catogram-openconvention/7DII7SF3AJFV5IZ4CW5MUBD424/OPEN-CONVENTION-CARTOGRAM-xlarge.jpg?v=8][/img]
There are two types of Democratic delegates.
Pledged delegates commit to supporting the candidate state voters chose, although a “good conscience” clause in the party’s rules gives them a bit of wiggle room.
The party allocates pledged delegates to each state or territory, and state party officials divvy them out to candidates.
Jurisdictions have different criteria, but in general, almost any registered voter deemed to be loyal to the party and the candidate can be a pledged delegate: poll workers, local elected officials, fundraisers, even candidates’ kids.
Automatic delegates, often called superdelegates, are the party’s highest-profile leaders. They have the role because of the offices they hold (or held), and the group includes former presidents and vice presidents, Democratic governors, members of Congress and party officials.
They are not pledged to any candidate and are not allowed to vote on the first ballot at the convention.
So, we’ll see an open convention?
We could.
If the party goes ahead with a long-planned virtual vote, it could officially lock in the nominee before the convention starts, and the contest would be over.
Biden has endorsed Vice President Harris, which could strongly tip the scales toward unity. His nearly 3,900 delegates wouldn’t be required to back Harris, but they were chosen for their loyalty to him and may be inclined to do what he asks, especially because she was already on the ticket that the primary voters chose.
The virtual vote is not a typical part of the process. It was largely set up to confirm Biden as the nominee before Ohio’s ballot deadline, which falls before the Democratic convention this year. Ohio legislators resolved the problem, but Democrats had planned to go through with the early vote anyway to avoid any legal challenges that would try to keep Biden off Ohio’s ballot.
However, that allows very little time for the party to coalesce around a new nominee.
Even if the virtual vote is canceled, the party could agree on Harris (or, much less likely, another candidate) before the convention. In that case, the convention might technically be considered open, but the proceedings could be as drama-free as usual.
Democratic leaders would be motivated to settle the question quickly so a new nominee can begin a campaign as soon as possible, said Amy K. Dacey, the executive director of the Sine Institute of Policy and Politics at American University and a former CEO of the Democratic National Committee.
“You’re ending a Republican convention where it’s very clear who their nominees are, whose names will appear on the ballot,” Dacey said. “... They now have this moment in time of like 31 days before the Democratic convention, where they have their nominees in place and they’re all campaigning.”
But if there is no consensus before the delegates arrive in Chicago, the Democrats would have their first open and contested convention since 1968. That one, also in Chicago, went so catastrophically awry that the party overhauled the way it chooses candidates.
What would an open convention look like?
AT THE CONVENTION
If no nominee
has been chosen
If a nominee was chosen
before the convention
Voting is done, and the convention proceeds as normally as possible.
Candidates officially enter the race
The signatures of at least 300 delegates are required for a candidate to appear on the ballot. They may gather signatures before or during the convention.
Just to get their name in the roll-call vote, each candidate would need the signatures of at least 300 delegates, and no more than 50 can come from any one state.
We would probably know early if anyone plans to challenge Harris, Dacey said, citing the short window of time available to drum up wider support. “If I’m somebody who wants to get my name in in a contested convention, the minute I have those 300 names, I’m going to say it,” she said.
If there are challengers, behind-the-scenes maneuvering and dealmaking would rev up to warp speed as state party bosses try to corral their delegates into a voting bloc.
Once everyone is in Chicago, candidates and their surrogates probably would blanket not just the convention floor but also hotels, bars and other assorted hidey holes looking for delegates to woo.
Things have gone off the rails in past open conventions, when candidates clawed for every vote.
In a Politico oral history of the 1976 Republican open convention, attendee Tom Korologos, former ambassador to Belgium, recalled a Gerald Ford delegate falling and badly injuring her leg. He said that rather than rushing her to a hospital, other delegates splinted her leg with convention programs and kept her within voting distance because they feared her replacement would cast a ballot for Ronald Reagan. (Ford won the nomination battle but lost the presidency to Democrat Jimmy Carter, who in 1980 lost to Reagan.)
Soon enough, the first roll-call vote would occur.
If a candidate were to get a majority of delegates’ votes on the first ballot, that person would become the nominee, and everyone could finally relax a little.
But if no one has a majority, a second vote would take place.
At that point, the convention would be considered “brokered,” a term coined in long-ago conventions when party power brokers threw all their dealmaking, arm-twisting might into finagling votes. There hasn’t been one of those since 1952.
The toned-down 2024 version of that scenario would be that, starting with the second ballot, the superdelegates enter the voting pool.
Voting would continue, round after round, until a candidate gets the votes of a majority of all delegates and would be named the party’s nominee.
While it probably would make good television, party division playing out on the convention floor is hardly the ideal scenario.
In 1924, the Democrats needed 103 rounds of voting to finally settle on compromise candidate John Davis after the two highest vote-getters withdrew. It didn’t work out well. Incumbent president Calvin Coolidge beat Davis in a landslide.
Additional sources: Brookings Institution; “2024 Presidential Nominating Process: Frequently Asked Questions” by the Congressional Research Service; Ballotpedia, The Green Papers.
Artur Galocha and Dan Balz contributed to this report. Editing by Kevin Uhrmacher and Tim Meko. Illustrations by Ben Kirchner.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/21/open-convention-democrats-biden-drop-out/
Ok, this one works same WP. Not as conclusive as you are about "not enough time":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/21/open-convention-democrats-biden-drop-out/
Biden's health aside I do agree there is more chance of the safe route - virtual vote in, etc,.. and as being reported, stuff I don't really understand but
As I said last night it could be real exciting!
And shut up the back room/super rich/pac bleavers and actually DO Democracy for all to see.
Those intelligent candidates would not devolve into mudslinging personal attacks.
Just imagine the nuance of issues that would come out with a contest - educate the public!.
Renewal.
It was a crisis for 8 days.
So actors have a better take on things than that/those journalists?. What part(s)?
What part of the article (I read it again quickly and if Fuagf is right: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxe24mjez84o)?
Saw that Zor, good catch and good rant
trian in vian
Fair enough Roos like Thiel picked JD but have a look at some of the rationale for some of the candidates that
There only rich backer angle is to tax a bit more of their money:
Getting narrowed down quickly for Kammy's running mate - Pete's out,
https://www.tiktok.com/@tomasmier/video/7394221261288705310
"prosecutor vs felon" LOLz..
He helped restore "honesty, dignity & integrity to the office after four years of lies, crime, scandal & chaos"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1e5x1yyj5xo
.. on a personal note;
I know,.. you are amazed at my predictive skills
It's not brain surgery - just observe things, the truth always comes out.
It may very well be an iPub thing
Pump some piece of shit to the moon
Then Bash it to bankruptcy
(Think they call that a grand slam ;)
Keep Calm and a pure heart
Look for the one with the Champagne Eyes
This year’s Republican convention was a carefully calibrated machine, promoting the party’s most popular agenda items and focusing criticism on one man, President Joe Biden.
It turns out, the Republicans were targeting the wrong guy.
With the news of Biden’s abandoning of his re-election campaign, the Republican game plan spearheaded by Donald Trump has been turned on its head.
The Republicans spent an entire week of carefully scripted events focusing on the wrong weaknesses of the Democrat opposing them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpwd8yzw45qo
Lol Roos - hope OMO sees it ;).
honeymoon is over .. back to running scared
https://www.bbc.com/news/world
.. Some of those posts just swatting mosquitoes, sometimes too much for too long, yet is done successfully by each of us.
Savvy Democrats sensed a potential opportunity.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxe24mjez84o
Kaboomage!
Obviate and hybridity.. sheesh, too late for this crap but inneresting though, later:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snake_Charmer
I really do have hope that all good people will come to their senses and vote for their best interests and
The country is going to be rockin'!
Seriously, imagine hundreds of millions of people in one country on the same page..
Landslide Democratic victory will be a huge shake up and Repugs will come back to the center (eventually ;).
This is positive:
486000 is a big number and kudo's to the board but also a whole number like a $100 stock price
Good support and may even put up some resistance lol
Just momentous Sir, don't read too much into it lol - a beautiful paradox ;).
Yeah, back in the day I learned early there are a lot of sweet talkin' snake charmer's at the iPub
Also, that nice girl is a denizen of casino's and clubs
Wife knows, we have also formed a personal relationship ;).
I don't agree, political ideology never comes across so desperate in western developed nations.
edit
If you are a Russian bot then it's understandable you don't want to hear this but, if not
Imagine if the Repugs took the high ground
The Dems keep their footing there
How fuckin' united and strong would that be?.
.. don't panic friend,.. but, understand your morning - buy a Biden pin or something ;).
That's true, you are a nutter
Try a few search terms on this board but not 'numerology' - nothing., I'm going to bed lolz..
Cheers friend ;)
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171089173
Ha ha, no - but into the coincidence of numbers. Some of my best days have been on the nineteeth ;)..
see if I can find a link - but don't want you researching any more lol..
Really excited for what a landslide Democratic win could accomplish.
They probably will not consider such(sovereignty)...would you expect the Republicans to do the same? Of course you wouldn't :) Because they do not.
If you mean by "such sovereignty" "not" something the Repugs "consider"
Why do you think they have gone bat shit crazy gerrymandering districts, stacking the SCOTUS, inciting the rabble, etc,..
Scared shitless they will lose more of their diminishing clout not minding legitimate clout.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174787593
Nice them to death but don't stop until you can't hear them breathing..
edit:
486000!
That's great!, people can only gamble so much but sports all day every day ;)
I have an interest!:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=cnbc+comcast+earnings
“I think the world is going to be shocked at some of the artists that we’re already talking to for long-term residency,” Allen said.
Lol, that was pretty lame..
Good point, we should find some articulate articles on Jill's sensibilities on The Good of the Nation.
See, if she reveals herself as a selfish bitch.
Really don't know much about her other than hearing her speak the odd time
Sounded like she had a good view to things.
Please reply with a cc for me, thanks!.
I was sure you were talking about Jill Biden.
Must have remembered something of this dumb premise:
So why did Jill and Joe put their democrat voters through this knowing good and well there was no way Joe could make it to the end?
Yeah, pass the torch is for Monarchies - Obama has it right
Must be reading iPub.
Lol, that's so dumb Roos
🙂 No time to let Ukraine be a Carthage.
Ok, I must have misread it as Pubic Wars ;).
True, super power expansion continues
But, seems a bit more nuanced now, lol:
Meanwhile;.. back at Biden siden -
Contest of Peers with the same vision
Sharp intellects that will make iron filings
Of the boneheads sharpening their wedge issues
Be that Democracy the Autocratic World consternates over.
And sure, maybe dominate the world again
Kick Russia and China's azz
That should do it
Stop imploding - fuck Trump and move on with vigor. eom.
Sheesh, did you two lose the thread
Anyhow, punic wars was a typo
So, apparently this mass shedding of clothes happens when Don G descends into hell. Now, I’ve only seen this opera a couple of times, but riddle me this: isn’t that Don G’s idea of a good time? Surely it would be more radical for Don G to be stripped by 200 women and then for them to laugh at him – isn’t that what his idea of hell would be? Or beat him up, or something?
Really groovin' on this Democratic energy.
Biden going to the Siden
Let the games begin
Exquisite competition
[read, no backroom bullshit]
Gretch, Newsomed, Petebitch, Kammy, Kennedy (f'n great name cache), Bothsides4, Janice, etc,..
Show the circus how Democracy is done.
No contest with any of the above:
trump·er·y
/'tr?mp(?)re/
archaic
noun
noun: trumpery; plural noun: trumperies
attractive articles of little value or use.
"None of your woolen drapery, nor linen drapery, nor any of your frippery or trumpery. I hate ostentation"
2. showy but worthless.
trinkets
Pete's great but how bout' Newson for VP?..
Still taking high ground, hope he comes down soon:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=gavin+newsom+for+vice+president
Briefing America's democracy; how dictator proof is America?..
Mr Trump's contemporaries at the New York Military Academy, which he attended as a teenager, recall drills, occasional sadism and votes for the school's "lady's man of the year" - the first election that Mr Trump ever won.
[see "Checks in the balance" article]
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/05/16/is-america-dictator-proof