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Real world drug development requires animal testing.
Unfortunately the vermin usually die to study the effects of the drug in research.
And...legitimate examples?
Any substance to the bearishness or only a matter of form?
Yes right dude. Last article was full of pure junk.
There were some tid bits which will help management strengthen governance for the long term. Waiting for more bullshit sold by a crap writer.
Dead cat bounce? What has changed since last week, month and year?
Another article without substance will shake out any remaining weak hands. Traders and week hands would make up majority of sellers. Traders and those looking to long would buy.
The 1-2 combo is never as effective when people are waiting for it.
If this supposed forthcoming article doesn't finish the job then it will be wasted effort and resources.
Bwahahaha...nice joke.
20 cents is now 'Slammed'
I agree leifsmith, pure speculation. I would expect to see some revenue if trial progress into humans on schedule and results are positive.
Since lease terms and related nature of transaction would almost certainly qualify it as a capital lease why not just buy it. No reason not to finance purchase through debt to maintain capital and liquidity for research. With (behind closed doors-speculation on my part) management projections for profitability within 3-5 years company can pay the thing off prior to what would be renewal of initial lease.
This is speculation on my part and open to other viewpoints. Further issuances of stock in this case is not the only option.
Is it? Looks the same when I just refreshed the page.
By the time I get some more cash into the trading account this baby will probably have risen back beyond current discount prices.
These prices still present a reasonable buy if one is willing to ride a little volatility.
The news coming down the pipe will likely cause increases from here.
It is on Management to get the necessary work done to release the news.
Volatility is an NNVC traders friend.
Lower share prices and pending news makes an opportunity for any investor with a little longer timeline.
Still risky here, especially short term in regards to recent share price action.
However pending news releases will blow the lid off the current prices and probably past 5 again. Especially if the shorties hang around.
I don't pay attention to Cramer or PVCT.
Libel is libel. If NNVCs attorney didn't think it was why would they use resources to pursue it.
Professional service firms will seek to drum up business which is what they are doing in regards to NNVC. We'll see if they have a legitimate case if they submit anything to a court, as of now, paid advertising is paid advertising.
Plusses:
Tox
PHE
Berkley
New lab
Dengue
Flu
Herpes
HIV
Exceptional results
Viroclinics
Risks:
Governance
Timeliness of results
Competition
Regulatory requirements
Distractions to management:
Lawyers drumming up business
Articles full of misinformation, distortions of fact and pontification.
Daily shareprice
Readers separate the wheat from the chaff. Management is attempting to change the world of medicine and will be met with many obstacles along the way.
Have you ever gotten a speeding ticket? All the local firms will send you fliers thereafter soliciting business.
These guys seem to all have noted the share price drop and then put out their advertising.
I am sure they are investigating, which is fine and costly.
If one of them actually had the goods I think their approach would have been different, otherwise you are putting your competition on notice for no reason.
On with the tox Docs!
Positive results will sell themselves.
Advertising by lawyers seeking clients.
We shall see if it goes down in flames.
Pending news makes it more likely to go up.
Did you listen to the radio interview. Cannot undisclose disclosed information.
Sec.gov > company filings
What a song! I am going to slip a few of those in the next time I have a chance at Karaoke.
"That's a well deserved spanking.Thank you."
Here's to hearing that statement out of the mouths of any NNVC detractors.
My best personal 'misheard' was an AC/DC song: "Dirty deeds and the ThunderChief". I was young and it was in between the time the song was a radio hit and the advent of the internet.
I'm not sure Big K but I swear I heard an interview where someone was. I am pretty sure the guy was from the Big City after Puffers reminder.
Thanks Puffer.
I guess it will work for now as long as Weedie approves it for use with her Pom-poms
Letters on behalf of shareholders to members of the press are worthwhile and may make someone take a second look..
However it is up to Management to make a splash, and we know the ways to do that....positive test results. Here's to hoping for a GREAT PR next week!!!
This ones going out to Weedie:
Let's go Docs
Let's go Docs
You got the 'cides
We bought the stock
Let's get our stuff into Tox
We'll build our lab
To show the FDA
That we're ready for phase 1a
Then its time for the world to see
The meaning of no tox-i-city
Let's go Docs
You got the 'cides
We bought the stock
I know Doc S pronounces it differently but I am from the South and until I heard him interview I thought it was pronounced "sides". For the sake of my tribute cheer to Weedie that is how I hear it.
Little harsh at the end B...The Bunny was as positive as one could get about this company just a few years ago. Shows the yin and yang of emotions.
Good becomes bad easily.
Don't bet what you can't lose.
If he's here now, he still has something riding on this company. The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference. Bunny is not indifferent at this point. If he'd really moved on, he wouldn't be here. Appreciate him for what he is, a player on the stage of NNVC's epic journey to greatness.
Bunny- with all due respect. I don't really know if you are in or out, long or short, holding or long sold, but your sled joke made me laugh the first time you told it a few years ago on a really dark day. So even though we may be on different sides of the spectrum now the following lyric applies: Send me dead flowers in the morning... I won't forget to put roses on your grave.
Echo,
NNVC will not need publication on a site like SA if it can accomplish what we think it can. I am sure they'll allow articles about this company if news trickles in, but what the company is trying to accomplish will garner a bigger platform than SA if they are successful.
DS
I'd also like a small farm in central america, close to the coast. But that will definitely not be a risk-free venture either.
NNVC is a small shot at seed-capital for that dream for me. Unfortunately the cartels have had a very negative influence in some of the communities there. I could lose my money in NNVC. I could lose my life tripping over the wrong persons toes south of the border.
MattFlash,
Good post. It is very level-headed and free of emotion and conjecture.
The company does face risks as it continues to progress on it's mission.
Unfortunately people may be in over their heads and have too much on the line. I stopped recommending this stock to others four years ago, however I continued to invest in NNVC when I had the opportunity to do so.
The sharks are circling though. The potstirrers are coming out of the woodwork to stir things up and create an opportunity for themselves. None us know which this thing is headed long-term but we form our hypotheses and place chips on the table.
This stock has been a heck of a learning experience for me personally.
Kind regards,
D_S
Initiate investigations Brenum. Read their advertisements. They are all disclaimed with a key word: Advertisement.
"Attorney Advertising. © 2013 Harwood Feffer LLP. The law firm responsible for this advertisement is Harwood Feffer LLP (www.hfesq.com). Prior results do not guarantee or predict a similar outcome with respect to any future matter."
They are initiating investigations. Could go either way, we'll see..
I think four law firms are investigating the drop in shareprice, trolling the waters for anyone, anything to get on board. It's similar to when you get a speeding ticket, they are trying to drum up business.
We'll see if any of them bring forward a class action suit, but it won't be anytime within the next week.
Honest-free of deceit and untruthfulness; sincere.
Presumptuous:
1. full of, characterized by, or showing presumption or readiness to presume in conduct or thought.
2. unwarrantedly or impertinently bold; forward.
3. Ihub poster, Smooth.
Snow day here, office is closed. I have time to play with words. I apologize to the board for taking the conversation off-topic.
I apologize to Smooth for disagreeing about the perception of the definition of the word honest. I will refrain from posting no matter his retort.
Gimme a break dude, nitpicky much. I could add in skill. There are all types of trading, nitpicker. The action for day trading takes part in the early part of the session. Astute traders were in and out while I was working a desk job.
Smooth the nitpicker, trying to project what I think or mean. Ever look up the word honest?
Puffer,
That may be the case, I do not remember his exact calls last spring but I'd wager he's made a helluva lot more money than I have here holding.
I don't trade. I do not have the time or the funds to play.
I know that there are some longs here that hold a core position and trade some swings.
I do not fault anyone who can make money on the stock trading.
There is confirmation bias here played both ways. I like the arguments and the debates which is why I read here way more than I post.
I got into this stock in 2009 after researching treatments for one of the viruses that this company has a drug in it's pipeline for. I thought that drug would be be further along than it is based on the timelines made available by the company via presentations/website at that time. Sad to say it is not.
I just really want to go to Hawaii. I'd like to go with a plane ticket and accomodations paid for by the proceeds of a small portion of the investment I've made here. I'd really like to see the company get the treatment to that virus on the market. It won't change much for me at this point but it would do much to change the lives of people dealing with the implications of that infection.
Kind regards,
DS
Here's the thing whether NoRetreat is right or wrong now, or will be right or wrong in the future really has no impact on any of us long or short. He claims he has been successful trading this stock. I think he probably has been.
If you go back over the message board here NoRetreat has made some pretty accurate calls regarding the short-term direction of the stock. And to give him, credit his calls for next steps by the company and management have always been to take the next step.
There have been varying circumstances over the years that have caused shifting timelines and directions. I doubt I am the only long here who thought that we'd be a little farther along now than we are, and that has been based off of projections and announcements by management....A BP was interested in NNVC 4 years ago when I was watching the last world cup. I didn't think we'd still be waiting on Clinical trials by the time the World Cup rolled around in 2014
I am pleased we have more cash in the bank than ever. We have a production facility that is nearly online. We have great alliances. We seem to have made significant progress in the last 12 months. The ball seems to be going in the right direction.
There are many risks between now and success. Some have been addressed over the last few days, through posts and actions of players in the market. This is still not a sure bet. I'd like to think we won't be sitting in a similar position next year. I hope we're not. But ultimately it is up to management. Get it done. Get into Tox. Get into human trials. Get to market...don't want to miss by a hair for any reason. Excuses are there for those who need them.
Bunny,
I was wondering where you'd been. It'd been to long since I'd heard you make a sled joke.
I remember the days when you were a true believer. Sad part is that you could get in for less than when you got out years later, and that is no fault of your own.
Another law firm on the case. This is just ambulance chasing or similar to when you get a speeding ticket and every two-bit attorney in town sends a flier.
Zinc I appreciate your knowledge of biotech and investing but with all due respect drop the condescension.
I've been long and strong for too long now too take everything at face value. I think the question was relevant and adequately addressed.
If you want to have a Latin contest there are better places than this board.
Mahalo Big K!
Your post was timely and informative.
Cheers- Diabolical_Southpaw