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you want in/back in.... PAY THE PRICE
this isn't coming down for anyone... it's just gonna keep chuggin along. don't be mad at us because you missed it.
please... that is a very transparent plea for help from you because you want to buy in at a lower price - if you want in - pay what it costs
--OR--
because you're flipping and want to get it lower so it'll rise back up so you can do it all over again - not gonna work like that going forward
:)
i agree, we'll see our share of it
hey guys, we have our ride to the clouds awaiting us, it just hasn't lifted off yet. the day will come , but for now we need to stay rational and not get too crazy. and keep our feet on the ground
we have subjective posters, we have objective posters, and that all great, we're all working toward one common goal. let's stay more closely related to the topic of the board $SAVW, LED lighting, the $$$ will come with the success of the company or the success of the ribbon cutting ceremony with the political guests, hopefully making some great announcements. and anything that could be announced you can guarantee will be tight lipped until that moment.
so let's not get down on them if we don't hear anything major in regards to that subject, however i still stand firm that we will receive more confirmations of political attendees, and updates on the status of the working space
though the nickel and dime would be awesome, whats going to happen will happen.
no, it wasn't your post
and that's quite the assumption you just made
let's try to keep this board more on topic , lately it seems to go waayyy off track - and needs some serious help to get it back on track. everybody is guilty from time to time including myself.
but we are all here for a common goal - to see this succeed and grow our accounts.
and obviously nobody is acting as a financial or investment advisor on this board - so really everyone should decide for themselves when the best entry/exit points are for them and their trading style.
yoyo this wasn't directed at you - you were just the last post on this long chain of replies going back to the post this message is more directed at.
ah, i had the wrong one... my bad - you are correct, they did the retrofit in baltimore per the savwatt article
A Q&A article featuring nancy sutley(she worked for the city of los angelas before becoming the chair of the White House Council on Environmental Quality)she obviously has a green agenda - and one must think she knows the state of california could benefit from massive energy savings.
and there are massive government subsidies as pointed out by her in this article - this is dated after the time she was announced to be a guest at the party
Q: What type of subsidies are available for employers?
A: The Recovery and Reinvestment Act included about $90 billion in investments in clean energy, supporting state and local initiatives, as well as money directed at specific technologies. We need to take existing incentives and make them more usable. In commercial buildings, the people who own the buildings and the people who operate the buildings and use the energy are not often the same, so we're trying to align the incentives. There have been loan guarantees for certain kind of technology, and a very important piece is government support for basic research and development, and helping entrepreneurs get over the hump.
Q: With green building, should we be focused on new buildings or retrofitting existing buildings to make them somewhat more energy-efficient and environmentally friendly?
A:: There's a lot of appreciation for new buildings. Many are being built to LEED standards, (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, a rating system to gauge energy-efficiency and environmental standards). I worked for the city of Los Angeles before moving back to Washington, and they required any building over 50,000 square feet to meet LEED standards. But there are certainly a lot of opportunities in retrofitting existing buildings. There are great opportunities in federal buildings. The president issued an executive order in 2009 setting sustainability goals for all federal buildings. We operate half a million buildings of every age and function, so there's an opportunity to save taxpayers' money by using energy more efficiently but also to show what you can do to reduce energy use, to reduce water use, to reduce waste. We're also looking at our federal fleet. We operate 600,000 vehicles, and we are moving toward more electric vehicles, (including) Chevy Volts and Nissan Leafs.
Q: Much of your environmental experience has been in California. How do Texas and other states compare in terms of public thinking and policy on environmental issues?
A: My last job was for the city of Los Angeles, and there was a healthy competition between cities about who could be more sustainable. It's good for business. But there are differences between regions. You can't compare a place like Houston with San Francisco, for a lot of reasons. But a lot of people are doing things. Corporations are thinking about sustainability as a value for their shareholders. Here in Texas, in the oil patch, there is support for green energy, which can power the economy and keep jobs in Texas.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7637461.html
and this does not directly relate to SAVW or US, but japan has seen the energy savings, a WHOPPING 44%in total energy bill. this is only a matter of time before mcdonalds in the US pops, we'll see if it is in fact SAVW brand that is designated to retro the facilities
Better lighting in Japan
Simple changes can have big benefits. After McDonald’s Japan installed LED lighting in 33 restaurants in 2009, CO2 emissions were reduced by 18 tons annually per restaurant and electricity consumption in the restaurants’ dining areas was reduced by an average of 44 percent, saving an average of $9,400 per year. Based on the demonstrated environmental and cost benefits, the decision has been made to install LED lighting in all new McDonald’s restaurants in Japan, and a review is underway to determine if LED lighting should be standard for all McDonald’s Japan restaurants.
http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/content/mcd/students/serving_our_communities/building_green.html
sorry guy, i misread your post - you said you think , however not 100% certain that metal halide contain phospor, and mercury
i looked this up - they contain mercury, argon , and phosphor among others
though :Argon is the third most common gas in the Earth's atmosphere
but that will eventually drive LED's across the nation. if the prices are increasing for certain products as resources get scarce, they're going to have to find s product to replace it with, currently LED's are the future of lighting, future being now.
there's really only 1 thing to do, since we do not have that time machine that's been spoken of before, and that is wait and see.
Good Call,
the cost of LED's are said to be coming down over the next couple years - the cost of Fluorescents going to atleast double going forward
dated 7/11/2011
The trickle down effect to the lighting industry:
According to a statement from Ellis Yan, CEO of TCP Inc. "Where phosphor once represented roughly 10% to 15% of the cost of a typical CFL, it can now exceed 50% (or more in some models) of the total lamps production cost". TCP was the first lighting manufacturer to alert us of the rare earth shortage issue - before it became an issue. As we experienced with the 'ballast shortage of 2010', there are forward-thinking manufacturers that choose to share information to better prepare their supply channel, and there are those who choose not to divulge any information lest they expose a possible market vulnerability.
The issue with the scarcity of phosphors is much different than what we experienced with last year's component shortage. The component shortage mainly impacted the availabilty of finished goods; fixtures, ballasts, and controls. Market conditions were not driving prices up like they are with today's rare earth minerals issue. This time around with lamp manufacturers clearly taking it on the chin, we should expect clear and frequent communications centered on recovering escalating phosphor costs through price increase notifications.
The TCP statement from Ellis Yan goes on to explain: "Over the past few months, an unprecedented rise in the rare earth mineral markets has sent fluorescent phosphor prices skyrocketing to levels not seen before. Fluorescent phosphor prices have increased nearly ten-fold over the past couple months. Phosphor costs continue to rise every week. Last week's phosphor price exceeded 2400 RMB/ kg., (vs. around 300RMB/ kg. in February 2011), more than an 800% increase in just five months time!!"
"Most of the other domestic CFL brands source their CFLs from various Chinese-based CFL manufacturers. Therefore, some of these companies can delay the price impact to their customers by simply pushing the burden temporarily to their lamp suppliers. Eventually though, all manufacturers will be forced to pass along these costs, since this is an industry wide issue - there are simply no alternative sources for this phosphor. In addition, these other CFL brands may not be able to control the actual cost impact, as their suppliers may eventually be able to pass through additional costs above and beyond these material impacts."
To Mister Yan's point, we are now being faced with price increase notifications from all major lamp manufacturers. Some of these increases will come in stages but industry chatter has been reporting price increases upwards to 40 percent.
In the coming days, Connexion will be meeting with some of our other lamp manufacturers to address the supply channel issues and price ramifications. As we learn more, we'll be communicating everything in our Industry News blog. . As formal price increase notifications are released they will be posted on our Price Increases page .
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/print/article/2011/07/huge-price-increases-underway-from-lamp-manufacturers-the-impact-of-rare-earth-metals-shortages
random articles to do with lighting, plus macy's ramping up installation of LED's throughout their stores nationwide
http://www.bulbs.com/blogs/current_news/
keep your goggles on $SAVW
going into a huge week and a half span - expect big things here
we just found out the float
new numbers:
float=584M
O/S = 669M
have been trading HUGE volumes : and also starting to confirm politicians to attend ribbon cutting ceremony july 28th
Nancy Sutley, senator nathanial mcfadden so far have been positively confirmed
not sure if you noticed sir,
this is not a board to promote other stocks,
this is the SAVWATT (SAVW) board
there we go, thats what i was waiting for :) LOL
we'll be very happy here. IMO It should, though i was not there for that. I would like to see it, and am glad to be in this at the right time to witness it, but it'll probably be shortlived-my heart may cease to pump... HAHA
for now, we just have to stay grounded and not pay attention to those that come in with their own agenda to pick up an extra share and save a buck.
agree, i see momo, and i have a feeling we'll hear something that pertains to a shareholder update this week, and by the monday/tuesday or ribbon cutting week, i do believe we will be between .01-.015 , will not go as far to say where we would or could go from there - predicting something that is unpredictable is like committing suicide.
Hey Cobra, thanks for the heads up :) didn't mean to offend anybody.
is there a spider monkey on crack comin?
Jolly,
My apologies, I guess i shouldn't loosely throw around the phrase 'Sir'
I'm sorry for that, Jolly - we will all be very happy very soon ;)
yes sir, i also have a lot going on outside, but I'll try to be here as much as i can.
We'll all be very excited & Happy very soon :)
I would like to say thank you to an awesome board member for a gift.
I have now been brought back to full time and am no longer limited to 3 posts per day :)
no, it's just accounted for as FEDERAL TAX
Hey reaves,
You are correct on a portion, though capital gains (both short term and long term) are included in your yearly tax return
you can use up to $3k capital losses to offset capital gains, if you have more than $3k capital losses you will carry forward the balance.
1yr+1day = long term Cap. Gain = 15% tax
1yr or less= short term capital gain= taxed at same rate as ordinary income.
Cap Gains/Losses are not realized until you sell. (if you hold past midnight-new years eve and sell on jan 1 - you will not be liable for 2011 taxes, however will be included on your 2012 taxes)
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=106799,00.html
I'm looking forward to continuing this week, looks good from where i'm sittin
Thanks for the charts P! this thing's gonna pop like orville redenbachers best
IMO
that is true, i was once a new comer, i was referring to the pedro DD on the sticky,
it is news filings, updates and good information consolidated into one post
We'll all be very happy with what we are brought here - nobody on this board has a 'bad' position.
this board(contributing members) has done some awesome DD, some that NEW COMERS should really check out. very promising here.
and for the naysayers/negativity, there's no reason to talk it down just to save a buck and pick up two extra shares, There is not much to be negative about, unless you're looking to pick up more shares
also no reason for bid squatters come these next two weeks, we need to keep EVERYTHING at the ASK and really blow through this week to show a we are in a very strong position going into Ribbon Cutting Week
Keep It Up Savw
this is my last post of the day, I'll use it to say Thank You,
This board was in need of correction. I know there hasn't been any after hours events or information disseminated, but thats no reason for crazy talk all over the boards today, it has been a slow day, but i believe it is good, we are gaining many boardmarks (up to 531 as of this post)
technicals are looking good, and if we continue the momentum we finished with friday, i believe this next week will be excellent (unlike last week, i do believe for this week we will hear updates that will confirm several things for us[though i do not have information to back that up - it is speculation] but i believe that will carry momo through the week - to the opening)
sittin back, enjoyin the days... GLTA
Yes sir, I have to agree, I've been scouring the net after i left class today looking for something NEW to share and i come on here and there's a bunch of nonsense
I love to see the board marks shooting up as they are - and yes that does equal new investors bringing in money to make money, I have seen during my searches that this is being touted as a major technical setup
lets remember all we have right now is speculation, and it's fun to get carried away with it, as i remember seeing all the Gov't contracts they were bidding on, and various projects they were working on, it's just a matter of time before we end up hearing what has been hammered out, what has been won/awarded and what future plans are.
We just need to stay grounded, as i do believe also that we are on the brink of seeing major dollar signs IMO
just keep the feet planted firmly on the ground
EVERYBODY - STOP talking about reverse split... IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA
There is so much misinformation floating around here today - The lights installed at JM Lexus were not ecopoles - they are LED streetlights/parking lot lights. they have shown closer photos, but these photos also show they resemble this=
http://savwatt.com/page/692/6-module-220w-led-street-light
Keep constructive posts here guys, it seems like there's alot of bickering and arguing going on here today for no reason.... we are gaining momo back that we lost early last week, and we are gaining/hopefully gaining many new investors, as board marks are coming in quickly, we all know that there are many eyes on this stock going forward into the next couple weeks.
$SAVW
Well.... If there was a chance of us getting past a dime, i think the chances are dwindling extremely quickly by all these sellers/flippers - AND BID WHACKERS...
IF everyone wants to gain steam & MOMO - we need to be on the same page and work together BUY & SELL @ ASK
, otherwise nothing will get accomplished IMO
there's nothing more irritating than watching that.
There's always hope, and hopefully it floats...
IMO
JusDePomme = bidwhacker - just got filled 865900 .0042 (ASK=.0043)
Rule #1 - KEEP THIS MOMO GOING ALL DAY INTO NEXT WEEK :
LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW TODAY
BUY AT ASK, if you're going to sell, THEN SELL AT ASK
let's get this thing moving in the right direction
Over the past couple weeks this has been extremely liquid - and if you place your sell at the ASK it will get filled as long as we keep BUYING at the ASK,
LETS DO THIS GUYS
I am expecting between 1 penny and 2 pennies by the time the 28th rolls around - then wouldn't even fathom taking a guess at where we will peak/sustain.
LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW TODAY
BUY AT ASK, if you're going to sell, THEN SELL AT ASK
let's get this thing moving in the right direction
this is correct, i haven't been able to find anything else online in regards to their agenda's, person marks for you for making the calls. Refer to my previous post as this is a HUGE deal, that she is forgoing her originally anticipated international event to attend SavWatt Ribbon cutting ceremony.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65162877
mostly bid buyers - thinking they are getting a deal - however, they are buying the wrong way - they are not helping the cause, the more it goes backwards the more they lose - if they were smart - obviously the spread is not big by any means, one tick mostly two at most, not much of a difference, instead of buying us the wrong way - why don't people buy ask and help the cause they are buying into and support GREEN & MAKING MONEY
& Sellers/profit taking
you like to get feedback - when things are on the up, you're all smiles... when things are where they are at you're doom and gloom - however it is nice to see there are TWO sides to you, as with every human...
things will be fine here, the sky is NOT falling, the earth is NOT caving in - though people tend to believe it is, or make it sound that way atleast.
The ribbon cutting is legitimate, the attendees are legit also. I know you posted the other day where you couldn't find anything that 'confirmed' them being there, but if you see where they are NOT, that will confirm they will be there. I'm checking on the other invtiees now, but i did find information that nancy sutley is in fact skipping the global enviromental summit, as i'm sure you have read that post, I'll post back later if I can find more on anything else.
SAVW DD
who are you? you just appeared when we started gaining momentum, and all you've done i talk everything down - never positive nor resourceful, you say you are allowed to post, because you are very opinionated, yet whine when your posts get deleted and threaten that you're going to get this board shut down = LOL
FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=65162877
as i posted yesterday - Nancy Sutley attended a global conference in January - she was penciled in to attend the next international conference which happens to fall on July 28th
as we see it here (and there are in fact links to back this up) Gary Guzy, Deputy Director, White House Council on Environmental Quality will be filling in for her at the summit while she has accepted the invite to attend the ribbon cutting.
Gary Guzy is Nancy Sutley's subordinate, as she is the Chair of whiite house council, and already indicated participation.
Link to international environmental conference(Chicago)
http://centerchicago.blogspot.com/
](GOOD READ)Interesting article i found when i was doing a search to see if i could find what ms. sutley will be up to come july 28th - could not find anything specific - but if you look below - you know she will not be attending a global conference...
This, to me, Implies that she will be sticking to her 'early indication of participation' plans :
(GARY GUZY going to represent NANCY SUTLEY at international summit while she's attending Ribbon Cutting)
Monday, July 11, 2011
2011 INTERNATIONAL GREEN ENERGY ECONOMY CONFERENCE
July 28-29, 2011
Washington, DC
The National Council for Science and the Environment invites you to hear speakers from more than a dozen countries:
• Hoesung Lee, Vice Chair, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
• Dan Kammen, University of California, Berkeley; Chief Technical Specialist for Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency, The World Bank
• Peter Lund, Director, New Energy Technologies Group, Aalto University, Finland
• Governor Bill Richardson, former Congressman, Ambassador to the UN, and Secretary of Energy
• Eduardo Pereira Guimaraes, Secretary of International Relations, Curitiba City Government, Brazil
• Johanna Gregory Partin, Director of Climate Protection Initiatives, Mayor's Office, City of San Francisco
• Jong-dall Kim, President, International Solar Cities Initiative, Kyungpook National University, Korea
• David Jhirad, Professor and Director, Energy, Resources, and Environment Program; HRH Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Professor in Environmental Policy, Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies
• Mark Levine, Founder and Group Leader, China Energy Group, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
• Johan Eliasch, CEO of Head, former Climate Change Advisor to UK Prime Minister Tony Blair
• Allen Barnett, School of Photovoltaic and Renewable Energy Engineering, University of New South Wales, Australia
• Gary Guzy, Deputy Director, White House Council on Environmental Quality
The conference will focus on the interplay between clean-energy strategies and policies to secure significant technological innovation, workforce development to promulgate green jobs, and sustainability principles to guide economies and societies toward sustainability.
Registration is still available (click HERE to register now). The registration fee of $220 includes a banquet featuring remarks from Governor Richardson, two luncheons, and a reception, along with the full conference program.
The conference is organized by the National Council for Science and the Environment (NCSE), the Center for Energy and Environmental Policy (CEEP) at the University of Delaware, the Council of Energy Research and Education Leaders (CEREL), in collaboration with the Korea Energy Economics Institute (KEEI).
More information, including the conference agenda and a registration link, is available through the conference website . You can also contact David Blockstein, NCSE/CEREL or 202-207-0004
http://centerchicago.blogspot.com/
(SAVW early indication guest list[implies more big shots may attend])
A guest list of over a thousand will be sent with early indication of participation by:
Chair of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, Nancy Sutley
Congressman John Sarbanes, Maryland 3rd Congressional District
Senator, Nathaniel McFadden
Congressman, Maryland's 7th District, Elijah Cumming
Baltimore City Mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake
Baltimore Deputy Mayor Kaliope Parthemos
Kathy Magruder, Executive Director of Maryland Clean Energy Center
Baltimore City Councilman, 10th district, Edward Reisinger
John Moss, Town Administrator of Bladensburg, MD
Denis G. Antoine, Ambassador, University of the District of Columbia
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=48270726
Last post of today... GLTA
(EDIT)
http://cleaneconomynetwork.org/National_Update_01-21-2011
this article is of a conference that was held in january, and seems to have been penciled in to attending the international summit coming up on 7/28, but deputy director was instead inserted into her seat. I strongly believe Nancy Sutley will be in attendance for Ribbon Cutting Ceremony - ALL of this should show how much this means, and how much of a big deal this actually is
I agree, looks to be hangin pretty tough here, bid whackers and sellers keeping this down - as far as bid whackin goes: i really don't get it, with the spread this close it doesn't make a huge difference - why don't the bid whackers help the cause they are buying into and buy at the ASK!!!
as far as the sellers/flippers... i don't even know what to say other than they'll soon be burned - then we'll hear more bad mouthin comin at us because of it...
regardless SAVW has come on too strong - and has not let down, we are just about ready for the next leg up - I'm not going to put a number on here - but i know what I'm thinking and have a good idea where we will be at by the time the week of the ribbon cutting ceremonies.
GLTA - good days coming soon, and following there-after
http://www.barchart.com/quotes/stocks/SAVW
and we're being shown as a STRONG BUY
the past week or so it went from strong sell to hold - to buy - today is the first time i've seen this in many months
Hey KIG,
I've been watching the setup as well, the lower band just went vertical, i do not have chart posting capabilities, i was just referencing the chart on the main page, and we are sitting on the top band each day as it goes up and up, i see it as indicating a major vertical movement - i see anomalies between SAVW chart and look at BCCI chart on their main page - BB's setting up similar and similar positions at start of run through the top, (On the latter chart on the main page you can see the bottom band shot vertical as well)
IMO : This is a great setup for everyone holding and buying in - for others...not so much
(EDIT: In response to your reply - Yes sir - things are looking great from here through atleast the middle of August. )
This is my last post of the day, Good Luck today everyone - we'll be looking to destroy the penny tomorrow. :)