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Dude, you should really relax a little. You are blowing 2 of my sentences way out of proportion, and misconstruing it completely. You also need to learn the difference between wanting/wishing/hoping and expecting. They are not the same thing.
If you wish people kept expectations reasonable, then what is with the example of the stock going to $20?
Did one of those positive posters predict $20?
Your own expectations of others, need to be reined in prior to trying to control other folks sentiment. If you don't want to be hot or cold, then fine. But don't try to control how others express themselves.
I prefer others not have a sojomy filter. You are asking for far too much.
I understand the attempt to say you got it under control, but IMO.....others are being much more honest in saying what they think, than you are.
The more negative or the more positive you are, reveals exactly that. Try to put that into a balanced perspective and walk as you would walk. Don't ask others to do likewise....that would make them lemmings.
Kim was very certain in the approximate timeframes for KBLB news.
I have faith that he will produce and that he will release some information soon.
I bought a few more today at .096 I'm not worried about catching a penny per share discount when this thing could EASILY DOUBLE or TRIPLE when the right news hits the wires.
I think we get news sooner than later and we will be shipping product before the end of the year.
You wait for your penny ... I'm adding here. Time will tell who is right.
It's been about 5 hours since one of the monotonous, repetitive negative posts that have been consistently infecting this board has been posted. Funny how that works isn't it??
KBLB news is inevitable
news is usually preceeded by volume
Seems to me that news is overdue and the sudden buying volume on a Friday can be interpreted as a good sign, imho.
And I agree with them on their idea, but not their tactic. I'm not going to bash a stock, especially a speculative biotech stock, when the CEO doesn't give me information on MY schedule. But I am just like those whiners and bashers in the fact that I am hoping that the price does go lower so that I can buy some more. I'm ready to pull the trigger in the low .08s, but not here in the .09s. If it goes under .085 then I'm buying, but if not then I won't be buying any more shares. If the stock makes a huge surge and I didn't buy any more at .095 because I was waiting for .085 or less, then I will accept my "missed opportunity", but by limiting risk, I can limit losses. I might also possibly be limiting my gains, but "not making as much as I could have" a lot of the time is much better than "losing more than I should have" most of the time.
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And BTW, based on the heavy decrease in the number of posts daily, I would venture to say that many are feeling the same way, but don't want to "rock the boat" for fear it will decrease the pps further. REALLY, like IHUB posters can affect the pps, give me a break.
I was answering a simple question with a simple answer, as it relates to this stock. Do you really think that there are HFTs, quote-stuffing and dark pools involved with this stock? Me neither.
And unfilled orders that are buys on the ask and sells on the bid are very infrequent with thinly-traded stocks like this one.
If you have 100 shares for sale and your ask price is $1, and then I bid $1 for 100 shares, then those 100 shares are sold at the ask, so it's listed as a "buy" trade. If I am asking for 100 shares and I set my bid price at $1, if you go to sell your shares at $1, those shares are sold at the bid, so they're listed as a "sell" trade.
If I set my bid price at $1 and you set your asking price at $1.05, until one of us budges (or someone else comes in with a higher bid or lower ask, no trade will be made.
and while there, their guy would have access to inside information and it also makes perfect sense why a company like calm seas would want that information as well...and you have noted that taking action on inside information would be illegal.. think it doesnt happen all the time in pink sheets?..well it does...and they get away with it all the time..why?..because the sec doesnt really care about what happens in pink sheets.
.....i never said that there was insider trading going on in kblb..but it wouldnt surprise me...i mean come on...is it really such a stretch??
Ok, I didn't know that this came from a filing directly from BORK. If that's the case, then the shareholder counts are probabaly either reported quartly or even monthly, like retail same store sales. If that's the case, then I am wrong about the brokerage firms being counted as 1 entity instead of the sum of all of their managed shareholders. But it also means that the total is only as accurate as it is reported. So if it's reported quarterly, then it is only accurate quarterly. But a small stock like BORK might not fluctuate as much as larger S&P stocks do, so it shouldn't matter too much.
ahahaha, I love being quoted. However, fear not upsetting me for doing any DD. And even when I am wrong (especially when I am wrong) I would love for someone to speak out the truth. The "punching a baby" annoyed-level is reserved the whiners who think that because they own 100 shares, that they are due daily info from the CEO.
I still don't think that sounds right. I don't think Fidelity, Scottrade, Etrade, etc are all updating their reports of every individual shareholder of every stock every single day. That would be the only way the shareholder count would be accurate. For a small stock like BORK, it might not be a problem, but for stocks like AAPL, do you think that these big brokers are updating and reporting their shareholder counts daily? Since there are millions of shareholders and that number changes every single day, they would have to, or the shareholder count would never be accurate?
I'm not sure where someone got this <2000 shareholders number from, but look up the shareholder count on a large stock (like AAPL or C) and see if it shows thousands of shareholders, or if it shows millions of shareholders.
Can everyone STOP saying that only 2000 people are trading this stock! That is not correct. When you buy this stock from Scottrade, along with hundreds of other people, you all count as 1 stock holder. Scottrade is the stockholder, not you. Scottrade holds the stock certificates, so they count as one entity. If you request the actual certificates from Scottrade, they are transferred to you, and you become a separate entity.
Scottrade, Etrade, Ameritrade, etc, they all count as 1 entity each! There are way more than 2000 individual traders/investors of this stock.
The wording was similar in both exit and jatmraz's replies, but to me, it doesn't sound promising. When KBLB announced the ZinkFingers deal earlier this year, it was a major deal. It sounds to me that whatever they have to announce isn't that big, and that he is trying to lower expectations early. But that's just my opinion and how I took the two short replies.
I'm sure everyone here is going to over-analyze every single word used in the two replies, but I hope it doesn't turn into another yes-no-yes-no argument that we have to hear for the next few months..
Retire shares? With what money? You want them to borrow money from CSC to buy back shares if borrowing money puts out more shares?
How about we wait until there is incoming revenue to worry about buying back shares.
You might want to check your facts a little. IBM's quarter was not a blowout. Revenues came in at $26.16 billion for the quarter, slightly below estimates of $26.26 billion. Yes, their EPS was good, but also heavily helped by currencies. And keep in mind that in the past month, the stock was up 18%. So if it sells 3.5% (currently) lower in after-hours after lower-than-expected sales, it's probably some profit taking by people who bought a month ago. Please don't try to blame the mystic market makers, the government or the economy or insinuate that the entire market is about to come crashing down. It's ok to have opinions, but please stick to the facts and keep the fear-mongering to a minimum.
That's great, I had no idea about that. Thanks!
RT, I apologize. Yes, I probably did just skim your message and used it as a launching pad for my reply. But my reply came after reading a few dozen messages in a row, and was mostly directed towards the people complaining about no news after missed time tables and leaves falling.
I'll try to start reading every message again, but after the past few weeks of dealing with the rantings and encyclopedias writting by a few others, along with no real recent news, and almost nothing worth reading on this board lately, I had gotten in the habit of just skimming. Again, I apologize if you took offense, and yes, my judgement was incorrectly send in your direction.
Possibly. But without any news for the week or two, it could just as easily break .09 and then boom... in the other direction.
I think that you might have a flaw in your logic. What he said was
I find those who post comments such as......this or that is coming in two weeks or at the end of the month......are really without fact and apparently posted to inflate the stock value for personal gain.
Pumpin' All Over The World!
More tonight...
http://stockreads.com/smw/9628/Are-you-ready-for-KBLB
Bourque posted pictures on their facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.224353910957219.55382.174407155951895&type=1
I'm happy it's up, but it's not an indicator of anything other than how many people received the SWAlert Newsletter this morning.
I agree with you, it's ridiculous to think that reading a chart based on no-news action that you can predict what will happen if news does come out. You can predict high-volume action based on previous low-volume action. I posted the same thing a month ago, but you won't convince anyone here. If you want anyone on this board to believe what you say and think that you're always right, you just need to include an "either-or" prediction in your posts.
I can not find a link to this filing anywhere on the internet, including the SEC website. The most recent filing they show for KBLB is 2011-08-15. Can anyone else post a link to the filing or another announcement of this filing?
IMHO some have been hoping or (and working for?) a dip to buy in at before the news and some of them have realized it's now too late in the game to be waiting for a dip and are buying in.
I totally agree. I didnt say we have been up 3 days I said you can not find a day like yesterday followed by a day like today without news in almost a year.
Um, last Friday we closed at the same price we opened, 0.095, right? So isn't today just the 2nd day in a row that we're up? With all of the "OMG news is coming out any day now, cuz the first day of fall just got here and Kim said early fall so that means the 1st day of fall, or the 2nd or 3rd day at the latest!" posts that have been added in the past week, don't you think that it could all just be speculative buying? Lots of people assume that something is coming soon, so they post "something is coming soon", and then uninformed and impatient readers go "buy buy buy" so they don't miss it. But if news doesn't come out in another few days, people will start to realize that the sudden run-up was unfounded and we could start to retrace back to where we were.
I hope everyone here has a little bit of reality in their mind when they realize that Kim said "early fall", but haven't his time projections been delayed in the past? I'm not saying that news won't come out, but if he said "Early Fall", then I'm not expecting it until mid-late October at the earliest. And I am also aware that he might have been too ambitious and news might not be here until November or even December.
I don't mean to sound negative, I'm just trying to be realistic and objective. I am very hopeful for this stock and I am holding long (even though I thought about selling a little bit into this run-up so I could buy back later if/when it came back down).
Ducati,
Steipp wasn't "liquidating". He wasn't planning on selling everything, he announced that he was selling a small percent of his shares for tax purposes. Not trying to be a dick, just making sure someone who didn't read previous announcements doesn't get the wrong idea.
Also, welcome back! I was sad to see your blog go away. When you started it, I was checking it every week. I thought it was great that you started with the same 2 speculative stocks I was watching (LQMT & KBLB). Have you been watching KBLB lately? I'm not unrealistic or impatient, but I really do think that it's about to have a very sharp run up (even if it retraces some quickly).
Also, not sure if you're still following small speculative stocks, but if you are, I am also following a third one now, BORK. This one is about to get going very quickly in the next 2-3 months as well, but it doesn't have near the potential as this one or KBLB.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/liquidmetalr-technologies-announces-strategic-alliance-with-engel-2011-09-27
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11260093/1/liquidmetal174-technologies-announces-strategic-alliance-with-engel.html
I doubt this is the last announcement we will hear about in the next 30 days. I wouldn't be surprised if we heard about a few new customers in the next few weeks. I am also guessing that we will start to see a very sharp rise in price for LQMT, so Steipp's decision to sell seems to be a very "lucky" one. :)
Well since it was already posted and kind-of confirmed last week, it's not really NEW news. It's just officially-confirmed news.
I've tried to ignore the past 2 days worth of "You said this", "No I didn't", "Yes you did", "No I didn't" (and on, and on, and on), but I'm sorry, this is ridiculous and childish. If you have something worthy of posting, why haven't you posted it already? Don't put stipulations on what you will or won't post or use them as weapons in a childish internet fight. If you want to post something, just post it. If you don't, then don't.
7) Is "David" code for "Not Goliath"?
Not sure if many of you follow KBLB on the yahoo forums, so I thought I'd link to this post in here. I'm not giving any credit or doubt to this guy's claim, I'm just posting it for more eyes to see and take into consideration. Make sure to read the replies underneath the original post.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_K/threadview?m=tm&bn=112987&tid=2536&mid=2536&tof=1&rt=1&frt=2&off=1
IchimokuCloud, I'm not sure why your message was deleted. I wasn't offended.
However, you can not convince me that chart patterns are effective at predicting a stock's future if that stock can shoot in either extreme direction without any news or approaching any technical points - or even the hint of a rumor.
I'm not saying that technicals don't work on liquid assets, I think they do because they're based on herd mentalities. But with illiquid assets like this one, they don't predict what will happen, only what should happen. You can't predict the unpredictable. Well, you can, but it doesn't mean you're any more accurate than a coin toss.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then. And there's nothing wrong with that. :)
Why is it that every time someone decides to visit the new mfg plant, no one seems to take any pictures? I find it improbable that not one of the half-dozen or dozen people that have been to the site did not even think to use their camera phone to snap a couple of shots - even if it's only pictures of the building, or a single worker next to the building. I'm not calling anyone a liar, but without pictures, it's really hard to just take an anonymous person's word for what they say they saw. As a a long-term investor, I really would like to believe that what everyone is saying is true, but as a cautious investor, I don't just believe it because a few people on the internet said they saw it.
I'm also curious as to how a random person shows up to the building, uninvited, walks in to look around, and then is greeted with a tour and a progress report by a new employee? Even if you told him you were an investor, did he just take you for your word and decide to show you around? Did it not cross his mind that you could possibly be working for a competitor, checking in on their progress, or even fishing for some private information?
I'm sorry if I come across feeling very negative, I'm really not. I'm very hopeful for this company and for this stock. I am holding long, waiting for the company to get up and running. I'm here to make money, and I'm patient, but I am cautious as well.
I'm sorry, but you can not rely on chart patterns with a penny stock. Chart patterns only work when enough people see the same chart pattern and decide to buy or sell based on that pattern. And when they do work, it's only because enough technicians see the same pattern and act on it - it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. But you can't do that with a stock that has an average trading volume of 100K shares per day! There's not enough people that will see the same chart pattern, think the same thing, and then act on it.
In my experience, chart technicians are wrong most of the time. They never mention previous prognostications based on charts that didn't come true, but when they're right, they let everyone know that they knew what was going to happen because the charts told them! Of course, that's just like everyone on any investment boards that feels the need to make predictions about what a penny stock is going to do, so I put equal amounts of weight behind the two. :)
RockQQ, I mean no offense. I'm sure you're a great technician, and maybe it helps you a little with major stocks like AAPL or JPM, but those stocks have a minimum daily trade volume in the millions. I just don't think anyone should put any hope in what a charts technicals say about an unpredictable, lightly-traded stock like this one.
My guess... He is allowed to start selling on October 24th, and he has around 40 days to finish his selling (so right up until December). At the last conference call, he said that they have deals or partnerships to announce towards the end of this year. If I wanted to sell shares (even if just for tax purposes), I would plan on selling them when I saw the price rising, not after I waited for a co-worker to sell a bunch of his shares, pushing the stock price down. So I am guessing that we should have some news coming out in the next 5 weeks that causes the share price to rise.
The iPhone 5 is also rumored to come out in October, but I dont think that this planned sell has much to do with that. However, if there is any use of LiquidMetal in any of Apple's devices, no matter how small, and even if LQMT will no longer receive revenue from AAPL, there are still uninformed speculative buyers out there that will flock to this stock. Just like the first announcement a year ago when the stock went over $1.