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Come on player, you are to smart not to realize it takes two to make a deal.
Yes, nothing has happened yet, as far as an announcement, but I believe there are still many things that are very close to closing. Just my opinion of course. (I don't believe Bill is here just to take money away from the stockholders)
I believe this last financing deal was done in part to show a potential client (or two or three) that Wave can raise money if they have to. Hopefully this latest offering will seal the deal with a couple of major clients that may have questioned Wave's finances.
If a major client or two are now satisfied, you might be surprised what comes next. And if and when it happens, the dilution will not matter one bit, if the latest financing generates upwards of 6-10 million dollars in business, either for this quarter and or Q3. Again, just my opinion.
I truly believe Bill believed that we would have some signed POs by now. It has not happen yet, but that is not to say it will not happen.
You are assuming the book is finish and I believe we are just in the middle of the book.
Watch for the ending.
I think the shelf is less than 10 million shares and then you have to take into account the warrants.
They would have to sell way above the closing price of today to get to those kinds of numbers.
You are assuming they are selling stock tomorrow, I don't (unless there is a revenue announcement before the market opens).
I don't think you will see them sell any stock before a revenue announcement. Depending on the size of the announcement, that is where you might find a selling price.
Sorry, I don't believe what you are selling regarding the company and it's employees. To me it's just a post on a board with no factual basis. Just my opinion.
Who would want to buy this stock on the open market, right now, without any new sales?
Our daily average has been less than 50K for most of the past few weeks. There are no sellers, and for sure, there are no buyers.
Without news, who is going to buy the public offering? No one in my book.
Therefore (2+2=4) there has to be a reason, and I believe the reason to buy is that there will be revenue news.
Wave did not have to make the announcement, but they did. They already had the shelf in place. They could sell the shelf at anytime they wanted to.
So, the question is: why did they make the announcement today? Who is going to buy it on the open market without revenue news? In my mind, no one.
Left or fired for lack of sales????
Player, yes I do, I agree, and I think you will see something before they attempt to sell the stock. Just my opinion.
Who would want to buy this stock with no discount? There has to be something to entice someone to buy this stock. Just look at the volume of late.
It WILL minimize dilution if the stock is sold at $3.00 verse $.75
The way the stock has been trading lately I don't think they will find any buyers of a public offering UNLESS there is news. That is the only way they will get people to buy the stock.
This is a growth of sales offering.
There has to be news around the corner for investor to WANT to buy this stock.
San Jose luncheon before the Wave Systems Annual Shareholder's meeting.
There may be those that do not want to have lunch, but would like to mingle with other investors.
Unfortunately there is no way to tell, if someone that comes into our private gathering, whether they are eating food or not.
Therefore, everyone will have a name tag on. If someone hears about our gathering and would like to come into our room, it is going to cost them $50.00 whether they eat or not.
If someone is in the room, and they do not have a name tag on, they will be asked to pay $50.00 or asked to leave. That is the only fair way for everyone else that has paid.
I have paid for the room, so our luncheon is on.
Barge you can invite him, but you know that in the past we always paid for his meals, so I doubt he would pony up the $50.00.
Are you coming? Should I put you down as a for sure?
O.K. here is the deal.
I have to pay upfront for at least 20 people by May 12th. I have 17 for sures right now.
I need at least 8 more for sures, just to be safe.
If you can comment before May 12th, it would be appreciated.
Those that can not decide before May 12th, that's O.K., as long as I have the 25 that gets me to almost breakeven.
At 30 it's a wash for me.
So, if I can get at least 8 more for sures, before May 12th, please let me know asap.
Thanks
Hi Alea,
Thank you. I would hope that you and Player would come.
Take care
Wave Systems shareholder's meeting in San Jose June 18th.
Here is what I have come up with.
We will have a private room called the Westwood Patio. It is inside, but has the feel of being outside. It is fully air conditioned.
We will have a open pay bar.
A full buffet lunch consisting of three salads, three hot dishes, a meat, fish and poultry, starches and desserts, will be served.
We will have this room all to ourselves, so that we can visit from 11:00 until 2:00.
The cost per person is $50.00. The cost could go down, depending on how many people we end up with.
I am going to pay everything up front, so that when you check into the room, when you pay, you will be given a name tag. On that name tag you will just print your first name and under that your handle.
The room itself was not inexpensive but the price includes everything.
Again, $50.00 is the maximum per person, and that could come down a few bucks, depending on our final number.
This is going to be a lot of fun. A chance for many of us to put a name with a face.
I hope you all will consider coming if possible.
Thanks Brian, I am putting you down for two. Will be back with details down the road.
Yes, I am looking into a luncheon when I have the numbers.
If you are planning to attend the meeting in San Jose, please respond here and let me know how many of you are attending.
If it's just you say so, if you are coming with someone else please let me know that also.
I need to get a count of how many might get together from about 11:00 to 2:00
Solms is a bully. That alone should close down Wave Systems. LOL
tkc, if Solms is pretty sure of getting to CFBE this quarter or next, wouldn't he have to have money coming in?
He knows more than he can say about deals that are not 100% done yet, but very close. At least that's the way it sounded to me from the CC yesterday.
He felt there would be big enough deals for the street to appreciate them, and to bid the stock price up well over a buck. All this before July 15th.
He came off sounding pretty confident to me.
Then I guess you may be wrong.
He intimated deals coming soon for CFBE. He felt the deals would warrant a higher price. All this before July 15th is the way I read him.
Looking at Wave's past and future, let me share this with you.
We spend our lives plodding blindly through the slaughterhouse gate between past and future. Every second is annihilation: the death of this moment, the birth of this moment. There is no "next" moment.
There is only now.
Courtesy of Greg Iles
If it's such a bad company that you keep preaching, why would you want to buy in at $.70?
Hogwash, 2.3 million dollar deal went down in 1st quarter to a MAJOR casualty insurance company.
Insurance companies are not the easiest to sell anything.
Hogwash
Yea, but I think he meant Q1 not Q2
No, not always.
Today was the first day. RSA is not over yet.
You said:
From what I hear, he was one of many that gave up wanting to deal with Solms .Apparently he is quite the bully, if you dare to disagree with him. And on the flip side is barely communicative and almost invisible to the rest of the business. Quite the antithesis of a leader for a technology company. If half of what I have heard of him is true, then he needs to go. And the board needs to find a new CEO ASAP..
This is very informative. Do you have anything concrete, other than what you heard, to prove what you are saying?
I said there were no losses unless you sell. Yes, one can have paper losses that one can average down on to get the paper loss lower but there is no loss or gain on an investment until you sell.
We were early but we were right.
The we is those of us that own over 40% of the float and averaging down (if you believe in the future for Wave) will make your break even price on the stock lower.
There is no loss until you sell, as as there is no profits until you sell.
We were early, but we are right.
I guess it's in the eyes of the beholder.
We were early, but we were right, and that will be proven out.
If you believe that, you could have built position back up at these levels.
You better get on now before it passes you by.
We were early but we were right.
Wave on the move. Something is leaking, in my opinion.
For all the gloom and doom for this investment, Wave is still in business.
If you believe the CEO, about not worrying if Wave will be above a buck before 180 period is up, you can get a better than 30% return in the next few days or weeks.
Did you see this from Taxivader?
On March 12 I put a link to Wave's Virtual Smart Card that was listed on HP's 'Technology @ Work' page.
The related links below are from the same area of HP's website, but indicate HP and Wave may be closer that I thought.
At a minimum they're cool to look at Laughing
From 'Latest Announcements' (TV- what announcement?)is one coming?
Wave Virtual Smart Card 2.0 - Enterprise capable, vendor neutral and cost-effective security
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/business-services/slms/announcements.html
From the SLMS newletter that links to HP's T @ W page
Wave Virtual Smart Card 2.0
Enterprise capable, vendor neutral and cost-effective security
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04582180
cypher you might want to check out this link
The companies are targeting the first half of 2015 for future announcements regarding products in development.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=107599098
Hasn't it been said that Micron and Wave are developing products as we speak, and that they will be announce in the second half of the year?
Don't you count that as new products being developed?