LoL diarch....too funny to pass up...

"Hello Andy, Mr. Ed's owner here...Wilbur....yeah Mr. Ed would like to know if you need a spokesperson for Actipatch. I would of gave him Healfast, but we treat Mr. Ed more like a real person since he can freaking talk and all.....what's that?..... You want him at the FDA meeting this morning....well we'll try to make it....Mr. Ed doesn't like to fly.....Here he is....I'll pass the phone to him...........Neigh.....Willllllllbbbuuurrrr, I mean Aaannnndddy (sounding like Aunt B. From Andy Griffith show).....I'll try to make it....ehhem....(Mr. Ed corrects his voice back to his normal tone) ....how's that meeting going? Do you think a talking horse will help your position? Andy:"it couldn't hurt at this point." Mr. Ed, " I'll be there as soon as we book a flight....Bbbyyyyeee...

Well I think most people on this board get how lucrative Healfast could be. I think since we can not vote on who controls this company - nor even vote on how it's controlled; most have therefore resolved to accept 'what is' since it is out of our control and 'they know it."

Wow kid. Three years without needing FDA approval and AW and sister (can't leave her out of this) have let time just pass on by . . . That 'horse' ain't gettin' up anytime soon now is it. Too bad again. (Tomorrow will be more of the same - except worse) . . .IMO. I can understand the FDA stall, but this is starting to look like an inside conspiracy and let me explain why. Ok, it makes sense that AW could have made mistakes filing proper FDA papers from the beginning and not substantiating enough information on efficacy and safety, and one could add that he is stuborn and that's why we are where we are, but when you throw in Healfast - that makes no sense to me for its failure as it was not under the same FDA roadblocks that Actipatch and Allay had. No, there is no reason other than for Healfast to also be s threat because once word got out about animals receiving benefits then people would have been more aware of its use on people. It looks like they purposely grounded the whole idea - maybe for another 5 to 10 years, but I'll bet someone got paid off to stall the whole operation. . .IMO

Ok. So Steve, when do you think Mary will do anything with Healfast? Hmm. She's waiting for AAA to fix the flat, but she'not even a member of AAA, so how's that 'flat' going to get fixed again? (All this technical stuff is over my head, ILX, IMJ, AAA, it's all nuts what's going on with it .....)

So one possible outcome for tomoorow's FDA meeting is to go ILX by prescription only. So then that's what they should do since there won't be any BIEL to speak of if they have to provide more trials and proof, etc. Shouldn't the topic today be to persuade AW and company to at least accept the ILX code and forget about OTC until they can design an OTC product around the code or class for OTC? Sorry for mentioning the FDA again people but the meeting is tomorrow and some of us want to know what exactly could happen for BIEL tomorrow - instead of the 'nothing' I've been hearing about. I would settle for precribed ILX at this point and start selling them to doctors. Also, BIEL can go back on Dr. Oz with FDA approval with a precription and people can then ask for the products. . . Otherwise what are we looking at - another two years of waiting with point of no return dilution - since Healfast is being ignored???? IMO

What's next for BIEL? Complete product redesign to fit existing FDA codes seems the only way to go; and if they start PMAs, the products still do NOT fit into the already pre-existing FDA codes that they 'must' fit into. The FDA is not interested in helping these companies succeed or set up any new codes - ever!! Based on latest FDA statements - BIEL must start totally over, starting with each product!!!!

It must be because now that it is known that the FDA has stated before their meeting on the 21st of May agenda that they will have no discussion on providing a code for any of the (5) companies concerned and will not even discuss fitting BIEL or anybody else for that matter into an existing code (unless the product(s) already fall precisely into their existing thermal or non-thermal codes) and BIEL's studies apparently have meant virtually ziltch, then there is nothing for BIEL to hope for tomorrow except more of the same rhetoric and false hope. (That is unless the FDA completely lied in their pre-meeting agenda that they listed online, which I doubt they are lying and that they meant what they said).

See, it's the unknown things behind the scenes that keep people hanging on here. One might think, an institutional investor would make great news for BIEL, but then knowing all the recently cleared up confusion with the FDA, the next question would be "why?" would an institutional investor even bother (hence the major doubt about an II). . . BIEL seems to be able to bait that hook with the lack of and/or disinformation almost everytime!

As much as everyone feels the way you do tj, the FDA obviously does not give a second thought as to any of these small businesses needs or wants, but "they," the small businesses must comply and fall automatcally into the FDA's pre-established parameters. So much for new technology and so much for BIEL's studies. They (FDA) appesrs to have their codes set for all eternity and it looks like nothing will change their minds since BIEL does not have any real $$ backing from a larger entity that could make a difference, nor do they seem to care about making any money (for the longest time now) from "so-called" products, but only have done the easiest available step, and that is to sell shares, millions and millions of shares, at a discounted price - to who only knows who, while totally useless distributors and marketers sit idly by and contribute nothing. Something is up alright - and whatever it is does not seem legal at all [with regards to >>] It would be intetesting to find out who bought those tons of shares in the last couple of months. I wonder if kid could find that out for us seeing his DD is the most revealing.....(or did he already say something about stock conversion)?

Thanks kidnova first and foremost. Thank you steelyeye. Thank you Steve43.

I'd like to throw this out there. I agree the company is consistant in their ability or shall I say lack of ability to drum up sales lately. One more thing, BIEL and speculators have been consistant with .....and that's running up the pps before an FDA meeting linked to them. Based on past events, I still expect something positive to happen with pps before May 21st. Nothing may happen, but it would be one of the few times it hasn't prior to an event like this. IMO...

I agree with you on the rebound. Something is brewing again, and as always, this could be it ?
When there are huge buys, the company usually will oblige - until the MMs decide to push it up. . . Nicely orchestrated efforts. Get positioned for another run everyone. IMO.

Hi investordisciple: Nevermind. Please disregard.....

Just saw the BIEL news. Is it AW's plan to have one distributor for each shareholder to oversee in the near future? Brilliant ! I tell you. Brilliant ! lol

It sounds like ddls has "inside information." To speak with such conviction about what the FDA is already going to do or - in this case - will "never" do - does not leave much room for anything else......

I'd prefer the former on some of your first questions rather than the latter, but I'm afraid BIEL management is going to waste another year spinning its wheels and giving us the latter, "lack of any real results," end of the deal. So far it's what they do best. It's like they forgot why they are in business and lack as you've stressed over and over, any real business plan....any business plan that's able to give noticle results anyway....good post Steve43....I hope we actually hear from one of them - like did Gro International sell anything yet, or do they just go around expelling hot air like Greenwood....so far S.O.Stuff. Here's a big YAWN for BIELs sales performance, FDA performance, and every BIEL distributor performance.

You are right about the wording; but just think of the possibilities if GSK even wispered anything about BIEL - the stock would be an overnight sensation. I am sure they are very careful not to be so careless as big corporations, like GSK, make changing decisions continually.

Thank you yankee55 for bringing this to our attention. I don't know if people realize this but "THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!" (Besides new FDA code of course). This million dollar prize has BIEL's name all over it. JMO This would be a great next step in our wait. If/when BIEL gets that prize, it will be like GSK letting them know that Big Pharma finally will give BIEL "permission to come aboard!" I believe this will be a huge step for Bioelectronics Corporation. IMO
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/10/glaxosmithkline-electroceuticals-idUSL5N0CW0NB20130410
I did not think it would be J&J as others said once I found out that J&J was selling their medical device division to get cash and P&G is still questionable. It looks like GSK is definitely positioning itself to expand it's bioelectronics and most likely has BIEL on its radar.. of course my interpretation is that GSK will in addition to the $1M prize will fund 40 other researchers. IMO

Thank you ddls. I was looking for BIEL's comprehensive distribution list. Do you have the BIEL complete patent list as well? TIA.

Agreed. And one thing I've noticed from my personal observations is that not everybody is privy to obtain the ones that work; kinda like they (phamcueticals and DEA) are being selective of doctors and micro demographics (exercising control through intimidation). Also, right now regarding BIEL, they (government and management) are working together to make sure this kind of pain relif will only see the light of day when they decide the time is right. (If ever). That's my explanation of the on purpose - continued stalling as seen on both sides. imo

To continue this second run, it would be nice if we heard some news tomorrow from either Gro-International or any of BIEL's one million distributors. . .

That's fine ddls. I do not blame you for not chasing the pps. You are free to participate in trading BIEL stock - or not. Best to you anyway, and good luck in whatever stock you decide to trade, bash, or pump.

Thanks wyattiamrolling. I feel sorry for AW in the photo - he looks kinda sad. I sincerely hope for real he's doing alright.....

Once the .003s clear, (very soon) we bump up higher into 3s.

To put it bluntly "who cares!" If they tax the non-OTC device - the consumer pays INdirectly. If they tax the OTC device - the consumer pays Directly.

Actually, they've managed to "live" off the company this way for years and it is clear to me that the AW clan knows how to work the shareholders pretty good, hmm? so I wouldn't say they do not know what they are doing so much as being told, (or forced by no choice of their own) rather by others to wait for their - or shall I say wait for PEMF technology's allotted time. (Which could be when the patents run out by the time the dillweeds at the FDA gets their act together).

Agreed. The sad part about this being a "gray" area is that whether it's diathermal, non-diathermal, or both - with the exception of RxRec, the output, though effective - is very low and anybody who's ever tried these products knows it too. So my invitation to the FDA is: WELCOME YOURSELF INTO THE 21ST CENTURY AND SET UP SOME PARAMETERS FOR (A NEW CODE FOR OTC PEMF DEVICES!!!) WHICH SHALL BE KNOWN ON BOTH SIDES OF CURRENT OTC ALLOWABLE TEMPERATURE RANGES (diathermy, non-diathermy, or both), ALONG WITH CURRENT ACCEPTABLE OTC RADIO FREQUENCY POWER (distance), AND CURRENT ACCEPTABLE OTC MAGNETISM, THAT IS 100% ACCEPTABLE FOR OTC ALREADY !!!

I always thought that .0008 was bottom, but I've been proven wrong every time so far.

Maybe "fool me twice" is to throw the scent of the dogs off.....this is not over yet.....get ready for the next coaster hill as they may get bigger and bigger.....(what seems like a three stooge play could be a diabolical scheme to throw everybody off). LoL

Put the pieces of the puzzle (using Simpsonly's recently asked questions and what happened with pps overseas).......1). Cancellation of meeting has nothing to do with any schedule conflict 2). Undercurrents of a new FDA code 3). DC may be asking - why delay at FDA 4). BIEL had nothing to do with April 5 now May meetng?......and it means still no buyout......Let's see....throw that all in a hat for a hat trick...... I got nothing from all this other than some influential distributor or investor overseas may be asking about new code and why there is a delay?

"Not too sure how cell phone and the current BIEL categorization overlap but I expect the FDA will use it as another delay?"
Well one thing is for sure, I can't make a phone call or locate my GPS position using a satellite with any of the BIEL patches . . . . . not yet anyway. As far as the FCC being concerned about certain radio and/or microwaves affecting peoples brains, that probably won't matter - as it hasn't so far; and the radio transmissions of BIEL patches are not that powerful (distance wise) and cell phones have seemed to have gotten a little better (headaches are not as commonly reported as they used to be as when flip phones were popular). IMO

Thanks fuente. Excellent information. Please keep us up to date as to the rescheduling of the meeting in May if you find out. I am greatful for you sharing this letter with everyone.

The people who sold mid sixes, got it right, however, I also think there will be a secondary run next - if not possibly starting tomorrow - because the markets are closed Friday,so the second run may occur sometime tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon and resume in the beginnng of next week. So load up and get your finger on the "sell" button between now and next week. I was hoping to see very close to .01 then followed by the FDA wrapping their arms around BIEL with a big kiss (not the kiss of death - we've already seen what that's brought for the last three years).
.01 is a good springboard into pennyland. Come on FDA! Let's finish the other side of the parabola and beyond !!! (We could be back in the 5's tomorrow......)....or there could be a major sell-off. LoL

Here we go again. Nothing solid holding the pps up other than day old whims and dreams. People not emmotionally attached to this stock are the ones that made any money here so far; esp. if this keeps going down. I sold few at .006, then made a mistake of selling some today when all I wanted to do was buy. Then spent the rest of the day trying to buy back almost 400k shares thanks to MM games. Day trader I am not. Go ahead - laugh it up!

Yes, normally, but the last time it ran I think I remember getting the rug pulled out before any news hit meaning the run was short lived. Take this morning, MMs had no problem bringing it down to .004 early this morning (I did not bid that) but then make it harder to buy anything around .0045, .0046, .0047....

Brace yourselves...momemtum has fizzled as expected. This can not sustain itself witbout sokid news, which is still on the horizon. Onl thing left now is daytrading; unloaded some more today...

Some kind of news is formulating - if not already formulated, which will bring pps into pennies. For this to work, the patient, but do-nothing, distributors (birdies) will have to start "hatching" from their dormant state and start chirping about BIEL sales. It's Spring Time! It's time to spring into action !

Thanks fuente. It looks like they need to find the guy at the FDA (who kinda looks like Mr. Bean) that has the rubber stamp that says: "ACCEPTED."