nemo...don't discount the possibility

of a judas or sucker rally....there might yet be hope for those who bought into all the bullish hype yesterday, but I wouldn't count on it....

Nemo...it's dropping like a stone

bid down to .0022 now.

irishbull....check this

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4266156

I'm just not a hypster/pumper, that's all. If I make a mistake (and I've made my share).....well I think you get the point.

I know irish....

But why is only bullish sentiment allowed? No one slags someone for saying "CYOS...heading to a penny or more", but post that "imo the bottom could drop out" and everyone has a cow.

I'm not attacking anyone personally, but expressing my opinions brings down loads of personal assaults....I don't mind, but it just seems so whiny.

irishbull...congrats

What's the big deal? Yesterday I got a PM from someone who sold @.0030, didn't get the .0035 but at least it's better than .0026. I'm just adding my 2 cents like everyone else....There was lots of talk how CYOS was gonna go to 1 penny, maybe 3 yesterday and some might have bought into it. Now things are quiet which suggests to me that perhaps some took their leave....you can learn from watching, the ticker symbols change but the game goes on and on.

CYOS had a nice run soup.........

But it looks like that might be it....too bad for those who bought into the bullish forecasts if it doesn't, those are the risks. Already over 1 million traded and we're not even 1/2 an hour into the trading day.

CYOS ask DT, .0029/.0035 now....

bid down to .003 on CYOS now....eom

CYOS is off to a sluggish start.....

Only 152K traded so far.....only about $600 in dollar terms..with the recent + movment I thougt it'd have at least attracted more attention

Point taken irish bull....

So when people are saying how CYOS "could" go to 1 cent or more etc...Ya figure it's just an attempt to build up the bullish sentiment so they can exit with a nice profit?

What if the bullish sentiment in CYOS doesn't continue? Is discussion allowed about how far down it "could" go?
Or is it the mandate here to only post bullish comments if board participants have exposure?

Note to Matt(admi)....no worries, I'll refrain

Reasonable requests should be dealt with reasonably....got a bit of stress right now (not market related) and this is providing a pleasant diversion...sorry for overdoing it.

You know what's ironic here? re CYOS and more

I'd argue that those posting bullishly about CYOS (or any other POS for that matter) that they're opinions are pretty close to my own as to the intrinsic value of a share of CYOS.

The posters here seem to know that a stock like CYOS is borne up on expectations and hope. And my comments are so vexing because of the terrifying thought that if that positive sentiment bouying up the stock evaporates....that the stock could potentially plunge as buyers exit and sellers abound.

All the claptrap about community and such, helping each other out is just thinly veiled BS in my opinion. Each holder is hoping to jump ship as everyone else is propping up the stock on expectations...be it of news or hype or whatever.

And that's as it should be....everyone 'talks' about being a team player....but mostly they're lying sobs no matter the enviornment, each looking selfishly after their own purient self interest imo of course.

Cheers guys

hawk...conflict is the juice of life

message boards with everyone singing from the same song book...that's boring. I think that's what attracts some to evangilism, the opportunity to argue with "heathens".

a word of FXGP......

I got "bagged" on January's run....lft some nice profits on the table waiting for what I considered (and still consider) the inevitable news/hype/promotion. But if you look FXGP is maxed, which suggests to me MMs don't have the liquidity they like to give FXGP a run....

When WNMI moved os vs auth shares was 80 million to 800 million I belive. FXGP's time will come though imo, and I'll be out during the run up if things pan out.

Thanks for that hawk....

Ya know if I was as thin skinned as some seem to be here I'd have given up on OTC 'investing' ages ago....

The reason I think i ruffle so many feathers is that the hotstockchat/tradersnation types have a good gig...and I agree with miniditka...there are plenty who regard otc stocks as "investments"....even ones like WNMI, IBZT and ITCV

mini ditka...thanks for the kind words

I'm less bitter than things appear, but I can certainly understand why you'd think that.

this board is mostly mindless drivel bbstock.....

Woo hooo, hubba hubba...level II is "shaping up"....are the banalities only permitted if it's bullish pumping?

What support have I provided? Mentioning all the avenues by which stocks seemed to get touted when MMs have shares they're looking to move and enumerating examples...woo hoo, hubba hubba.

Just because something doesn't appeal to your particular bias....Does that mean it is without merit?

bbstock "nothing of merit"...

If I mindlessy pumped a stock like cyos though, i guess that would be deemed of merit? I've never said it couldn't or wouldn't go up, same with ITCV...Is this a pumper only zone or are we allowed to discuss the negatives?

Last 1 bb....sure I have postives

But not with most OTC stocks being pumped and dumped. How high was ITCV gonna go when it got over .015 on Tuesday? Hard to dump if ya say..."Hmmmm, looks like the end of the line here".

CYOS, now that it's .003 on the bid I'm seeing posts saying it's going to .018...Uh huh, ya really think someone saying that is buying? If they really were bullish and buying they'd be thanking me.

Go nuts boys and girls, 18 posts done...see ya back tomorrow. 1 hour left, pump like madmen.

LMM "THANK YOU"!!!

I have no quarrel with honesty....it's the pumpers looking to suck in the unsuspecting with psuedo market analysis that pushes my buttons. It's just a thinly veiled attempt to push the stock higher so as to escape the POS with more money than was risked imo.

What I'm talking about is the "level II" analysts....if the schyster owns shares level II always looks good. Even TA with these OTC P&D's....I used to believe in TA to a degree, now it seems any indicator is bullish if the pumper dumper has shares.

I see someone ponied up .0035 for CYOS, and with the bid at .003 that's quite a gulf.

Relax...1 post left. Then the wizards here can go back to the smoke and light show without toto pulling back the curtain.

CYOS, nice profits...but no buyers @.0035

Can't argue with the money made...2 posts left then the courageous lions here can go on slagging my opinions behind the cyber skirt otherwise known as ignore.

with your vocabulary pizza...

you'd have difficulty with my discourse in any case, it isn't monosylabic. 3 more after this one...enjoy life with the blinders on.

CYOS, No takers at .0035????

bbstock, CYOS...ITCV...what's the diff

Different pumps imo...look at this board talking about ITCV on Tuesday, big run coming. Oh yeah, the money ran right out at .018 and it hasn't come close since.

Now CYOS is showing life....but when will the bag get closed? There are positive and negatives to anything in life...just consider me the ying to this board's yang.

almost 8 million now and can't get past .003

I guess sellers are happy and plentiful at that price, nice run though. Those shares bought this AM @ .002 have made a healthy % return.

bbstock...we'll see

Nothing surprises me in pennyland anymore. Is CYOS a good buy at or above .003? Well...if some are buying others are selling. How many shares in that sb2 filing anyway?

bbstock....that depends who has the supply imo

They don't call broker dealer specialists for nothing as far as I'm concerned. CYOS has made a nice % run, but in terms of actual increase it's only 1 tenth of one single penny (.001) in spite of almost 6 million shares being bought and sold.

bbstock, so with CYOS moving higher

it follows that you think MMs are selling...not buying correct?

re CYOS hotstockchat email blast mention....

listed as one they're "watching"....anyone listening to tradersnation? are they touting it?

Letsmakemoney....

CYOS, do you have time and sales....looks like alot of shares got sold at the bid, 20 pt profit for those who got in at .002 of course...

domer re CYOS

jmo, but it looks it's moving on air....they're spreading it real wide again

2 10K blocks hit CYOS at ask....

Ya think maybe there's some retail investor trying to give her a little jump start....thinking there are only 5K shares @ .0020 for sale?

bb re CYOS...ask uptick .0017/.0020 now

Do ya really think there's something up with this one?

h2nrg...re itcv

I show volume @ about 2,000,000 in the 1st 15 minutes of trading...You really think that qualifies as "light"?

bb re CYOS......

If MMs have shares to move (s8/sb2 or otherwise) why would they try and move the PPS of a stock down? If anything I'd think they'd try to get some momo going to attract some buyers...

I notice that CYOS is .0017/.0019 last check

bbstock re CYOS SB2 filed....

Back in August with a whole slew of ammendments....Hmmmm, ya think MMs might have some shares to move maybe? Woooo hoooo, cue the rally music!!!

Let's see if this posts eom

Did ya see RNVO get hammered?

Yet another stock promoted via an email campaign. All OTC stocks are not the same, but if they're being hyped and promoted via the usual OTC outfits that tout stocks professionally...I'd submit that those behind the promotion/emails/touting aren't buying.

with cause domer (1 post after this, relax guys)

The market is buyers and sellers...bullish buyers purchasing from bearish sellers. The conduit for trades on the OTC is MMs, broker dealers. When "Joe Retail" is buying and selling he's likely doing it from his desktop hitting the buy and sell buttons on his broker's site, (pardon the chauvinistic slant, I'm old school).

When insiders, beneficial owners....promoters etc....when they're selling I'd wager it's most often done through a specialist, that is to say a broker dealer MM.

When retail investors buy, whether during the pump or before positive sentiment rules in my opinion. While I don't believe MMs have any passionate feelings one way or another regarding a stock they're looking to move....in my opinion it's helpful if the retail buyers form an attachment.

That way retailers will buy/hold during that period when the pump is in full swing as MMs move shares dispassionately on behalf of their clients as I see it.

Don't agree? You don't have to....but if I'm right it stands to reason that the real pros working these boards would argue tooth and nail.

relax hawk i only have 2 more posts today....

Then you can return to your "everything is bullish" rosed colored view of every OTC stock...Free for the day from my injection of cynical reality.