On the contrary; I felt my characterization gave him the benefit of the doubt.

lol, now I guess we need to find out for sure whether Dhonau really took over Valvoline at the age of 22.

Anyone care to place bets?

Ed seems to tell increasingly fantastic stories at each race. Remember the one about how he was a "founder" of Blockbuster and Pizza Hut??

Delusions of grandeur. I fear he and Urbie make a very potent, and potentially dangerous, pair.

Because it's the obvious truth?

Not surprising. That's how they always do it. Makes it easy to start diluting again immediately. And I'll bet there's some preferred held by insiders, too, that isn't going to be affected by the split.

I could be wrong, but I think Miller's just a witless mark. Very clearly, Dhonau's a pro.

What a suckup Miller is. Obviously he couldn't DD his way outta a paper bag.

Oh wow. There ain't much Dhonau won't say, is there? And nothing, apparently, that Ed Miller won't swallow:

He confirmed that Dhonau started and owns the majority of UCAD. He said that Dhonau is the deep pockets money behind this whole deal with CMKX. Apparently Dhonau comes from the Valvoline family as in Valvoline Oil. Ed said at age 22 he walked in and fired the CEO and took over. He also said Dhonau was in college at age 14. While Jose said that CMKX is central to everything that is happening Ed said that Dhonau’s the money and is calling the shots...

Well, we knew that months ago. The part about UCAD. The rest sounds like pure BS. Funny Ed didn't mention that little securities fraud problem in Ohio, isn't it?

You really need to check your facts.

A woman on the CMKX investors hub board named Janice Shell seems to know a little about everyone that's a CEO of a micro penny stock and she claims there are alot of connections to families where one son inlaw runs one company,a son runs another and the dad or wife runs another.

Richard Surber's uncle, Allen Wolfson, is currently in jail. He's been whacked so many times he probably doesn't feel it anymore. Al's son is also in hot water, as is Bonnie Jean Tippet, Al's loyal secretary. These people are serious criminals.

Don't look now, but they're gonna do a 1:1000 reverse split.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/833209/000107054404000126/0001070544-04-000126.txt

THTHF has been pumped and dumped several times now. It doesn't work forever, as you know.

LOL!! Too funny!!

Going rotten, more like. Stinks to high heaven.

IHub crashed briefly.

Condi's hopeless. She's in love with Dubya, so it's highly unlikely she'll ever tell him anything he doesn't want to hear.

I had LOTS of fun over there a couple of years ago. The SEC really doesn't like Little Richard. It's only a matter of time.

LOL!! NXIA!!!

Absolutely absurd, for a company like this one. For just about any company, come to that.

a/s is now 27B
o/s 20B

Winger madness!! You go, guy!!

Lawyers usually know how to avoid getting into trouble. But seriously, I don't think Edwards and Angell has any investment in CMKX.

When they do that, they don't keep it secret. They can't, or they'd be in enormous trouble.

Roger Glenn is an attorney, not a venture capitalist. Good God, do you even know what a venture capitalist is?

Were he buying huge amounts of CMKX stock directly from management (as VC's do) it'd be a gigantic conflict of interest.

Yes. Though with this much stock out, even a tiny cash divvy would have been expensive. That, of course, is the problem. If you really have a short position in your stock, the very last thing you want to do is continue to dilute.

Just one more reason to believe there isn't any short interest in CMKX, and never was.

I have no idea what he means by his last statement. If Glenn really were hired to deal with a shorting problem, he'd have done something by now.

Huh? Hasn't Zen been saying for months that Glenn had a Master Plan to squeeze the shorts?

I hope most can see why I'm hesitant to say that Roger is planning any short trap based on the new regulations.

He adds: Note: I believe Roger will deal with the shorts in ways that do not depend on the new regulations. Legal ways that will imo cause maximum pain to anyone short.

Once again, huh?

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4196647

Oh for God's sake. How infantile.

Kerry is a communist sympathizer and has been for 30 years!!

LOL!!

lol, that wouldn't surprise me...

Oh come now. It was pretty mild stuff compared to the worst of RB, and all in fun.

I`ve never seen anything like it, even the worst of raging bull had this outclassed. CMKX continues to set records, in this case a new low in message board content.

lol, it certainly would be. But I don't think we need to worry: if Urbie really had something "huge" he wouldn't be selling off so much of his own company. Well, of what we presume is his company.

I think the real problem is that what began as a modest conventional pump and dump got way outta control.

lol, I believe Urbie hopes it will.

"Is that dog still going to hunt" (as they say back home)?

lol, ninety minutes can seem like a REALLY long time when you really have to go...

What "50% share pass"? Urbie may have the 7.5 million UCAD shares at this moment, but they're gonna be distributed to CMKX shareholders in a few days. And they're no longer 50% of UCAD's o/s.

well since the 50% share pass to CMKX and addind UC as director at UCAD, i'd say casavant's have a hell of a lot of pull in UCAD...

Keep an eye on Dhonau. He's a major player here.

The company would tell 'em they had divvies in all sorts of wonderful little companies.

What do you think the company could/would do to soothe 40,000+ CMKX shareholders who were counting on buying private planes for Christmas this year?

Well, I did post about it. Not my fault if Dubya doesn't read Raging Bull.

By the way, maybe you should have let the rest of the world in on your WMD insight.

Maybe Condi should start reading the newspapers. We know Dubya doesn't.

In a series of television interviews Sunday, Rice insisted, however, that she only later learned that the Energy Department believed the aluminum tubes were actually meant for conventional weapons, denying a New York Times report that she knew of those concerns before wielding the tubes as evidence in her argument for war.

If you meant UCAD, no, it isn't.

controlled by casavant's as well.

UCAD appears to be controlled by Ed Dhonau.

Because they'll no longer have anything we want. They also won't have any money.

And it may be one of the reasons nobody's seen him in two months or more.

I believe that to be true......and I'm sure Urban does too.

In a way it was. Take away one of the major players and you create a power vacuum. You're looking at the results now.

That place was stable before we went in there?

Frankly, I think we should just cut and run. Doing so wouldn't make any difference at all to the eventual outcome. They're on the brink of a civil war, and sooner or later they'll get it.

This is Vietnam II, and unfortunately most of our leaders seem to have learned nothing whatsoever from Vietnam I.

Many people, I among them, originally believed that the idea was to keep giving away claims, and then roll what was left of CMKX into UCAD. Or just to abandon CMKX altogether.

But now SGGM's in the game, and they have no relation to UCAD. In addition, Williams's most recent public remarks suggest that he has no intention of merging with CMKX.

Yes, I've seen some ugly situations. After IFTA blew up, a broker kept emailing me about the whole mess. He made some pretty unambiguous death threats against Fatboy Hoyng.

Didn't act on them, fortunately.