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I am happy again. All three of my portfolios are going good now. Especially my Mar-May quarterly with a plus growth of over 15%. I am excited about looking at the possibility of doing a five year monthly with three stocks per month, instead of just one. Don't put all your eggs into one basket type of situation. I felt a bit let down when so many of my monthly stocks actually did hit the -10% stop loss limit, even when the end of the month had good growth. But, maybe with three stocks fighting for you, you could make growth in all months. We'll see.
Ken
Found it M&M. You're good to go through the summer.
Ken
Arkieboy, I checked out BEVI. Not a lot of past to go on but if it is going to do anything, it will do it now through June. Good luck to you if you buy it. HRCT should do even better.
Ken
Hello, M&M man. I love your board. Wow. I love the mouse. I tried to find the data stream for TRBY but couldn't. I will check another place and submit my chart. Good luck with your board it should do great.
Ken
I will look at it arkieboy. Hey, do you think Santos had anything in his hand in the derby? I had the second horse in the win with all of the others for a pick three.
Ken
Will do M&M man. TRBY I am coming to get you now.
Ken
The immediate response from my study of if the growth is best in a two week period or spread out over the course of the whole month is going well. Looks very, very interesting and creates several new possibilities.
Ken
As you can see I have redid the five year stock portfolio using the precise -10% stop-loss limit orders and imposing a stop-loss of -20% after the stock has reached a growth of at least 50% during its run. $421,000,000 isn't a billion, I know. But, it is factual and verifiable. See you. I have other systems to check. Like, what makes people think that the best months for a stock always starts on the first day of the month. Can't a stock have its best 30 day period during the portions of two months. Mid June and Mid July. Just a thought. I will create a template and find out.
Ken
Thanks, QuillandPenn, I signed up to get the free first half of Buffets secret. I wonder if we should send the Australian our secret. Even if it does take courage to sit for several days and watch a stock go below your imagined stop-loss, most people don't realize that the stocks they have with their pensions and 401K's are doing just that. At least with this format, you will have the stock during its best of the year months and quarters. I am going to check out what the best and worst situations are in my portfolio for my own understanding. I will not publish my findings since few people are coming back after that message. I will email you though, Quill, I have a few really nice thoughts still coming out of my noodle. See you. Wealth and prosperity to you.
KG
QuillandPenn, you just keep coming up with great sites. I think everybody is at the ThomsonFN site loading up on great stocks to ambush. You did real well. I am up to C on the NYSE. After I do that I'll tackle the Nasdaq. I have found several good stocks that have never had a losing month in their history. That is what I call a good play. I will take the stock even at 6% for the month if it is say 8 wins and 1 loss in nine years or so. That kind of stock would help to offset the stocks we choose in a portfolio that might go south. I am looking at the stock market like a layered set of hands atop of each other. First comes the start of the year, you fan out with diversification, second month comes rolling in your fanning out again, and running some of the January stocks into a smooth running quarterly. Third months comes and you're fanning out even more diversifying. There is so much that you can do now. You can sell, you can buy, you can watch and wonder why. If I get some real winners for the summer, Quill I will pass them on via snail mail. See you.
Ken
NYSE stocks to record.
These stocks were checked via the ThomsonFN site that QuillandPenn mentioned in his message and they are very close to my totals. This is meant to be an example of how you can begin to record your stocks for each month. The stocks here have the criteria that I find appealing. They each have good growth average per specific month, and have very little losses during those months. I draw the line at 3 of 10 losses in 10 years. I hope it helps you in your search for the best concepts to work with. Glean the fields of sanity wherever you might find them.
Ken
For those who are still reading this board.
I ran my monthly portfolio at a -25% stop-loss limit order and the $25,000 initial investment still totaled $2,044,640,286.42
The stock market is like a heart beat. It makes you nervous if it seems as if your missing one, or it rushes and pounds in your viens, but it is still pounding. There is a point that you have to have trust. Since that message was posted this board has almost died. Anyway, VRTS is doing as expected. PWER is doing fine. Only one losing stock in my May-Jul portfolio of six stocks and that is holding at -0%. If you were to load up on a stock, do it during the fall of the year.
Ken
Most people don't really know how good they've got it. And, there's no promise of tomorrow. You take your time in trading Sarals. There's no need to rush into trading. I believe what Sir John Templeton said. The stock market could go up to a million. What determines that? Thinngs today are obsolete and gone by the morning. Something will come along and we will be ahead of the game again. There is too many coincidences for good things not to keep happening to this country. Good weekend to you and yours.
Ken
I sarals. I registered and created a portfolio, but the site does not seem to have the stop-loss capabilities that the money.com investment challenge had a long time ago. This would be a perfect type of scenerio to teach a person new to stocks the value of different types of strategies. I thank you for your suggestion, Saral. When ever I run into anything I will back it up and as far as the ThomsonFN seasonality charts, I agree with them. If you ever needed a chart for months, that place will do them quickly. See you. Enjoy the day and I hope the tornados aren't anywhere near you. I feel for the poor soul's that they are near.
Ken
Does anyone know of a site that allows you to run a play portfolio and impose stop-loss limit orders? I would like to try something interesting. As I watched CPN go from 100% growth to 58% in just a few days, I am concerned that a trailing stop-loss would save a great deal of growth before the end of the quarter. The same goes for the monthly. Each must set his/her own standards and criteria. And, like Forrest Gump always said, "And, that's all I have to say about that."
Ken
I hope that you and your investment club make a ton of money with it. When you do run the real money portfolio try to consider the trailing stop-loss limit order too. I am watching CPN lose value every day. It was up 100% in my portfolio for Mar-May and now it is around 58%. A trailing stop loss would have saved quite a bit.
Ken
For those of you who have seen my revolving quarterly Mar-May portfolio, you'll notice that CPN has fallen to just 68% growth during this quarter. On April 30th it was up over 100% for me. This indicates that if I did have a trailing -10% stop loss limit order on the stock, I would have sold at a 90% growth profit for the quarter. Just a thought. I am sure that in the five year run, many of those situations arose where a trailing stop-loss would have closed you out at a great deal more then what the monthly close gave us to work with. Again, at the end of May I will sell everything in the portfolio-or delete it as I did the Jan-Mar, and the Feb-Apr. Thank you for submitting the great sites to check out and use. We can use all of the tools we can find in making our decision.
Ken
Thanks, Dan, like Larry Williams I do believe that there is something to the open interest in commodity trading. The commercial or big business interest is very important in getting a handle on when to buy. I am going to look seriously into the potential of developing a system to use with the commodity trading. In fact, it should be easier to do. See you Dan.
Ken
lan, here is the site.
This is the site that QuillandPenn suggested earlier on. You can get a round figure of how a stock is doing very quickly with this one. Just type in the stock symbols and it will do the rest for you. Good one, Quill.
http://insider.thomsonfn.com/tfn/stocks.asp?imodule=seasonality&ticker=LSI&ttype=A
Ken
For those of you who send me private messages.
I do not have any premium capabilities. I tried to reply to your messages but I am refused. I don't know of any EXCEL programs that can do stocks by the hundreds at a time, I wish I did. I do these by hand. It relaxes me and I find that I trust my own homework. QuillandPenn did place a decent site in one of his messages posted a few days ago, check in his messages to the board. The site is called ThomsonFN and has a EXCEL like program in it that you can copy and paste to your EXCEL that has some numbers, but not my numbers. I only use adjusted figures dealing with the splits and dividends. The concept is right. You should still be able to locate the best months and quarters to buy and sell and do it very quickly. Once you copy and paste the first batch it is very easy to make your own templates out of what you find.
I would like to be in on something groud breaking in helping the people who don't really have EXCEL to do their own homework. Those that don't even have a computer are in need of help too, but as QuillandPenn mentioned they could go to the library, but that is too difficult. I tried to get a couple newspapers to let me write a daily piece about the quarterlies and monthlies and toss in a few stocks to watch that week. Why you could even find a stock or two that make money for only two or three weeks a year every year at the same time. Very insiderlike. Sooner or later, I'll catch a wave. See you and thanks for your messages. I am very pleased that your words are all positive. I hope you make tons of wealth in this or whatever you try to do.
KG
I am glad SE. It is good to know that someone can see past the obvious sometimes and look for the potential. People will reject this concept because of that, but knowing anything that is helpful in beating the market and building your portfolio is worth while. I will amend the portfolio results to say that they are results only of the closes for the months.
Take it easy
Ken
You're right scott and no hard feelings. I thought of the same thing. But, I was just using the closing months totals to do the portfolio. The results of the growth though would still be the same, meaning the quarters would still show that the time of the year plays an important role in the growth of a stock and to hold it all year is absolute madness. If you looked at my portfolios that I have running in Smartmoney.com and get the username and password off of the intro board, I cannot impose a stop-loss limit order. Many of the stocks that do primarily well during this quarter are doing just that. Hopefully, if someone buys a stock for their portfolio they shall never have to worry about a stop loss. Another thing that I didn't mention, Scott, is that during this run, the stocks may well have doubled their respective totals and I could have sold the stock long before the month was out for more money. It all depends on how you're looking at it. But, risk is a stepping stone we shall have to consider in buying the stock. Stop-losses are just insurance. I hope to see you here again, Scott. You sound like you're very astute in this game and we could learn from you and you could glean what you can from us. See you. I promised to walk. I must keep my world if I am going to be able to watch American Idol. LOL.
Ken
Hello, irwin. I was reading a bit of Larry Williams trading for commodities and futures. And, it is much like it. I had thought about writing a template up for the commercials but, I could not get a decent data stream to do it. Good observation, irwin. Stay around and help us build this board to something worthwhile.
Ken
QuillandPenn, I think Investors Business Daily is the better of the stock newspapers. I like the format. It gives you plenty of info to develop systems and fine the edge you need. Thanks.
Ken got to walk with the wife tonight and this is not optional.
You'll feel proud once you've finished Bullwinkle. I will start soon on the NYSE. I will only do those with an average of say 100,000 shares a day volume. I have to keep it simple and this gives the thought that I can unload it as fast as I can obtain it.
KG
Hi, Toofuzzy. The revolving quarterly concept is very simple in the fact that you buy at a pre-set time frame, and sell at a pre-set time frame. You never hold for a year, or even four months. You expect a gain to be followed by a loss. You set your stop-loss on all of the stocks that you own. If the first stock bombs and you are left with 5, 6 or 7 active stocks, hopefully, they will carry you on further to growth. If you had confidence in just one stock for a specific quarter of the year just by that one stock and invest all of your money. Set you limit orders. This is not a pull your hair out type of concept like following moving averages or RSI's or histograms. This is factual evidence that a stock is more apt to do well in this specific quarter, then in any other quarter of the year. And, once that quarter is over. You take your money and look for another stock just like that one. Most people I talk to on the street, or at work are so set in their ways where their paradigms will not allow anything new to filter into their consciousness, and thus, they miss the tree for the forest. Revolving quarterly and monthly reports are so laid back in their presentation that you don't question whether it is a good bet, it is a good bet but is the force with you this time?
I realize that with 80,000,000 baby boomers retiring in the next 20 years there will be a big call for medical type stocks and companies that make glasses, and such. But, what is the company doing for the past five or six years? Those are the bull and bear years. Like the song says, "If I can make it there, I'll make it anywhere." That says it all, Toofuzzy. Tomorrow can not be any worst then the last three years, or any better then the previous ones. Just relax and ambush them.
KG and welcome to the board I hope you stay and add to our understanding of the best way to utilize these concepts.
You're playing it very smart, bullwinkle. My SmartMoney.com portfolios are all doing well. My Mar-May portfolio is up to 12%, my Apr-Jun and May-Jul is both around 3%. So, it is doing good for this time of the year. Better then a 1.3% 3 month CD. If I can ever help you when you decide to step out and play with real money, let me know. I don't like to fool around with a person's money. I would do the best study for you I could. Set your limit orders. If you see your stock is up 20% and that is the average and you don't care to risk it falling during the latter part of a quarter, absolutely sell and wait for the next opportunity. You're in charge. Don't be afraid. Remember, Dune...."Fear is the mind killer." See you Bullwinkle.
KG
With your help, QuillandPenn, I can do this professionally. You've got a lot of class. I can see some of that tough New York in you. Are you from that area? You're a very savy person. You know so much. I could learn a lot from you. At heart, I am a writer of metaphysics. I just felt this was something that I had to do. This board was needed. You and everyone who shows up here will keep this board going. If it falls, who will show the next concept. I am learning expenentially. In a week, I may add another flower in this garden we are building. And, you, too, will do this. Thanks, very much for being here.
KG
Thank you, QuillandPenn. I know that you'll be back. You're a sharp tack on the board of life. And thank God for you. You keep pushing me to better myself. I will now try to better that quarterly record you posted of over $200,000,000. I will be back, too. See you.
KG
Hi, alfalogic. If you noticed the sectors that I had placed on the web site, to the right I did the quarterly for each stock for the last six years, in conjunction with the months that I did to the left. I took the best stocks with the most total six year growth from all 500 stocks and threw out the best and worst of the last five years. I then totaled and average the growth that was left. I did not place the other eight sectors on the web site. I need an edge. But, look at what a billion dollars looks like. It can be done. I has been done with just $25,000 dollars. I know it is hindsight, but hindsight is foresight. Things repeat. Even my SmartMoney.com portfolio is doing well, all three of them. See you later. My better half wants me to walk with her. PS. Sorry, QuillandPenn. Now, you have something to shoot for. And, I was saddled with just the S&P 500 stocks. What could I have done with the others being traded?
KG
You are all in for a treat.
I finished my five year monthly portfolio as QuillandPenn has had the front seat for a while with. I have dethroned the king. I will be posting my total which you will find unbelievable, but it is 100% true. I have totaled in 5 short years with an initial $25,000 investment almost $3.5 billion. Billions my friends. Wow. Once that total becomes real to your subconscious mind, you can make it real in your life. Billions in five short years. Billions. I love to just say the word. What this will do once you see it, is solidify your thoughts that this is a viable concept and could work for you. Revolving quarterly and monthly portfolios may be the wave of the future and I am the only board on the net talking about it. If you have google or yahoo search engines and type into the browser "revolving quarterly" you come right here to this message board. I am the only board pointing you in that direction. Now, you have it. Something big can happen with someone here. I hope so anyway. Until later.
KG
Bullwinkle, you're absolutely amazing. Such a determined person. I hope this does help you. You don't have to just set your stop-loss at a certain percentage, but you can set your limit order to sell after hitting a certain growth total. I have seen stocks shoot up to 50% in a 9 day period and lose it down to a 9% quarter. You make all of the decisions in this format. Your hunger will lead you to where you need to be. I think that it led you here with us.
KG
PS: I put the entire monthly portfolio choices and my picks for the months of the year on the web site.
I have finished my search through the S&P 500 for the best stocks to use in my monthly portfolio challenge. I will place all of the choices and the results of the charts for each month on the web site. And, I will take away some other things on the site. QuillandPenn's record $328,000,000 for five years is now at risk, even though I am saddled by the use of just the S&P 500 stocks. QuillandPenn, I am coming to retake my throne. The pity of this is I am using the very best that the S&P 500 had to offer for each month of the year and some months the pickins were a bit shabby. Even during the so called bull market years in the 90's these stocks played hard to find. In deciding my choices I did indeed toss out the best growth of the last 5 years and the worst growth of the last five years. I then totaled the remaining 3 years and with the highest average remaining I chose thusly. Let's hope. I should have it on the site in the next couple of days.
KG
Bullwinkle you did your homework. Way to go. I did mine too, for arkieboy. I did the Berkshire CL's A and B as mentioned. I just wanted to see how Warren would fair in our contest. I bet he would love this concept. He would love a stock challenge. I could never beat Larry Dudash in daily challenges because I am not focused like that. He could make millions of dollars with his system, but I am like a snail racing across the razors edge. I cannot think at two speeds, yet. It is like what Dennis the Menace told Mr. Wilson. "I don't know everything yet for gosh sakes, I am only 8 years old." I have a lot to learn. Going up against professional stock traders I would be a laugher. But, give me a year, and I'll make a presence known.
I placed the BRKA and BRKB on the web site that I placed on the intro board. How do you think Warren would do? I think he would love this concept.
KG
Here is a site about the biggest companies to go bankrupt is America. Check it out. I will be doing some charts to see if you would have been burnt bad if you owned a quarterly, or even a monthly portfolio.
KG
http://www.bankruptcydata.com/Research/15_Largest.htm
Will do arkieboy. Buffet's best.
Check out these bankrupt stocks and see if you would have lost too much in the quarterly concept.
KG
LS, you need more than one if something happens to the stock you chose to represent your quarter, or month. You should have a list of stocks in each of the 12 quarters of the year, just for your peace of mind. If you have a chart on say MSFT and it shows that the time you have chosen to use the stock isn't going to unfold according to the company's announced quarterly report, you must scan your list of trade off stocks and see how they stack up with reports. Don't bind yourself to a lost,if you know before hand the loss is probably coming. QuillandPenn has placed some wonderful sites that will do your homework for you. ThomsonFN, which is on his postings is a real good one for doing your work. I would recommend it for searching through dozens of stocks a day using their seasonal charts. I do my own charts and graphs. I have to take into account the splits and dividends. These play heck with trying to run a chart. Have 10 stocks in each period if you can find them that have the criteria made. When I did the entire S&P 500 stocks I have found very few that make money during the summer months. I posted those that I found. You may have to do as I do and dig a little deeper in the well, so to speak. I am in the process of digging into the NYSE and AMEX and NASDAQ. I will find the best for us. Rest assured. I see you wealthy and secure. There are others on this board who are learning to read the charts to verify the future of a stock by learning to read the past quarters leading up to them. That is fantastic that others would do that. No one can think of two things at once and give it their complete attention it deserves. It is that much more difficult for me because I am also writing in my books as I am doing this and listening to my wife each night in my best Men are from Mars ability.
See you. Don't quit. You'll do well.
KG
OK, QullandPenn. Will do. I am going to add by: now. See you. Sunday mornings are for grandkids.
Best to you and yours.
KG
Well, I have now added the eighth stock to my five year monthly portfolio that QuillandPenn has set the mark for. So far, my stocks are as follows.
January-LSI
February-BLI
March-BSX
April-LXK
May-PWER
June-ORCL
July-GENZ
August-CHIR
For more and we shall see. Do I have anything up my sleeve? I don't know but I am trapped to use only the S&P 500 stocks that I said that I would. When I start digging into the NYSE I will find some real jewels.
KG