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So your contention is that they made illegal statements in a legal document to the SEC from which it would be a slam dunk to prove fraud if untrue. Great logic.
Perhaps a better question is how they have gotten away with similar deception in the past. There are numerous instances of claims both in PRs and in filings that have turned out to not be true. Shoot, the Lucent "verification" of Cu@OCX was in a filing. Nothing happened then. Why should they worry about anything now? Besides, most of their statements are protected by safe harbor. You know that, I know that and they know that.
So if someone is paid, then they must be untrustworthy?
Not necessarily, but it certainly is not indisputable proof of what they claim. It raises *doubt* for a company that has a serious history of deception.
...yet you conclude their tests are bogus, based on....
You see, that's why I don't post here very often anymore. You people are always twisting statements and putting words in people's mouth. As Burstein said, Telcordia may very well have tested something. After all, OFDM is a public domain technology. Anyone with a PC and and FPGA development board could build and OFDM prototype. Without knowing what was tested and under what conditions, the PR is meaningless.
Every PR this company has issued is highly qualified and carefully written. They hint at great things, but tell virtually nothing concrete. This company had done that expertly for many years.
What would they send to target customers? I suppose you say nothing.
What target customers? Mayhbe the same ones that they sent the prototype to 3 years ago?
I can think of a number of reasons. The fact that you can't just shows that you don't want to.
And yet, you didn't bother to mention a single one of them...
They released v 1.3 in January
So they said. At the same time, they also released pictures of v 1.3 that turned out to be fakes.
They released v 1.4 around June which is the first DSL chip to ever have VoIP on it. v 1.5 will be the first to have VoIP, WiFi and Router software on it.
So they said...
They have the best DSL technology on the planet according to HelloSoft and Telcordia.
So they, and their paid endorsers, said...
Still, we have seen nothing in the way of verifiable evidence that they have actually done what they said they did. This company has been deceptive about its progress before. They even were given a chance to have one of the industry's leading pundits (Burstein) affirm their claims, only to refuse to give him any information. I can think of no reasonable reason why a legitimate company would do that. The information could easily have been protected by NDA, and we would have the long sought-after independent verification that what they say is true.
Of course, there are any number of reasons why a non-legitimate company would do that...
Sprint/Embarq has signed an agreement to have their equipment manufacturers design a DSLAM around the Rim chip so they can do field trials to test the customer acceptance and preferences.
No, they didn't. I have to say, though, that this one is curious - at first. You may recall, when Sprint first announced the spinoff of Embarq, I did a trademark search on "Embarq". It became clear that RIM filed for trademark protection before Sprint did. Apparently, RIM owned a trademark that Sprint was using. I have no doubt that Sprint put the screws to RIM to try to get them to release the trademark. I would imagine that a few threats of a very lengthy and expensive legal battle took the fight out of RIM. I believe that RIM settled for a licensing agreement that gave that great PR fodder, but actually comitted to nothing of substance.
One more thing to think about. This company has made yet another year-end promise. They have said that they will be producing an ASIC for revenue by the end of the year. They company has also admitted that it will take at least 6 months to spin even the first run of silicon. That means that they would have had to contract with a fab over three months ago. That hasn't happened.
I'll be watching with bated breath for the myriad of excuses you will come up with for this year-end failure - again.
And you say they have done NOTHING?
Absolutely. At least, they have done nothing that can be verified as true by anyone other than them or their paid endorsers.
Spoke what is wrong with wanting to make some money after one purchases a stock? That is normal. I am sure you want to make money on the stocks that you invest in...
Of course I want to make money from my investments. I suppose the difference is that I prefer investments that are honest, and don't make money at the cost of duping others.
You are just one in a long line of people who get in to try to play the pumps. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose, but I for one couldn't sleep at night knowing that I was posting a bunch of hype on a message board, knowing full well that it is a scam.
But Burstein himself has been a basher to them , so how could they in good faith send it to him.
I'm not sure how you define "basher". Burstein has been honest and fair when reporting about this company. The fact that he has only had bad things to say so far simply means that the company hasn't given him anything good to work with.
What better way to improve their reputation than to provide the industry's best known pundit with proof that they have a working product? Rather than provide the test results and remove all doubt, they refused to provide any substantiating info and increase Burstein's level of distrust.
It just makes no sense.
Also, I resent the fact that you called me a shameless pumper, there is no need to resort to personal attacks (as I dont do that to you).
Well, you did try to somehow twist my comments about the growing market into some kind of deal with Alcatel. Anyway, my use of the word "pumper" is not worse than your use of the word "basher".
Spoke, so are you suggesting that RSMI might partner up with one of those companies (like Alcatel)?
I neither said nor implied any such thing. You know that.
I encourage you and all of the other shameless pumpers to read what Burstein wrote agian. Read it carefully. He basically summed up what I have been saying for years. Furthermore he is an entirely credible source.
This company has become extraordinarily skilled at manipulating its share price and orchestrating fluffy PR campaigns. People like you seem to fall for all of that and completely lose track of the fundamentals. Allow me to reminds you:
1) This company is touting its *second* "disruptive" technology. The first one was a miserable failure. Which is more likely - that this one is a miserable failure too, or that they somehow actually did develop (another) disruptive technology this time?
2)This company has a history of lies and deception. The examples are too numerous to list, but the most recent one was the bogus pictures. Remember that one?
3) This company spends practically *nothing* on R&D. They spend more on executive salary and paid PRs than they do on R&D. That simply does not happen in a legitimate technology company - ever. The last "Q" showed that in the last 9 months, they spent $255K on R&D and $3.7 million on G&A. Sadly, nobody seems to ask where that half million per month goes. It sure doesn't go to R&D, and they have no other G&A expenses except rent and salaries.
4) This company has offered nothing in the way of actual, verifiable evidence that they have *any* viable technology. When Burstein, an indisputable expert who could do nothing but help them, asked them for the Telcordia report, they blew him off. They did not offer it to him under NDA. If they had done so, he could easily have published that he looked over the report and found it geniune, without revealing any "secrets". Why would they do that? The only plausible answer is that the report is rigged, and that is what Burstein was forced to conclude.
Who, in your opinion among the legitimate/real companies, do you think will benefit from that 318% increase. I would
appreciate your take on it.
Since I am no longer invested in the segment, I haven't been following it that closely. However, the article I linked discussed it some:
Worldwide DSL aggregation hardware DSL port shipments increased 2% between 4Q05 and 1Q06-- VDSL ports on IP DSLAMs were up 34% in 1Q06, VDSL ports on broadband loop carriers were up 60%-- IP DSLAM revenue is forecast to grow an astonishing 318% between 2005 and 2009-- In 1Q06, Alcatel maintained its #1 position in worldwide DSL aggregation hardware revenue and port market share, followed by Huawei and Siemens; Ericsson jumps into the #4 spot after its acquisition of Marconi-- Alcatel and Huawei also hold the #1 and #2 positions in the burgeoning IP DSLAM space in 1Q06 Infonetics' report tracks ATM DSLAMs, IP DSLAMs, next gen DLCs, and BLCs.Market share and forecasts are updated quarterly and cover worldwide, NorthAmerica, EMEA, Asia Pacific, and CALA. The report provides analysis andrankings for ADTRAN, Alcatel, Calix, Ciena, Corecess, ECI, Ericsson,Fujitsu, Huawei, Lucent, Marconi, Millinet, Motorola, NEC, Nokia, Occam,Samsung, Siemens, Sumitomo, Tellabs, UTStarcom, Woojyun, Zhone, ZTE, andothers.
I think in the grand scheme of things it is not where it should be would you not agree?
Yes. I would not agree. You asked about the VDSL market and I provided a link that shows it is soaring - Ikanos' problems notwithstanding.
I am quite well, thanks. I hope you are as well.
Spoke are you surprised at how VDSL does not seem to be catching on.
I'm not sure where you get your information:
VDSL ports on IP DSLAMs were up 34% in 1Q06, VDSL ports on broadband loop carriers were up 60%-- IP DSLAM revenue is forecast to grow an astonishing 318% between 2005 and 2009--
http://www.mirror99.com/20060519/surge_in_vdsl_port_shipments_shows_providers_preparing_for_iptv_vod...
Like I said - the level of understanding on this board hasn't changed a bit...
I was curious as to what part of the claim that Telcordia made exceeds Shannon's law?
I suggest that you ask Burstein. After all, he is the expert and he made the claim. I have e-mailed him several times and he has been quite friendly and responsive.
Having said that, as I understand it, VDSL2 is roughly at the Shannon limit of speed for copper given the power and frequency constraints of current standards. A claim of 100% increase over VDSL2 would seem to be a claim that exceeds the laws of physics provided the equipment operates at power permitted by wireline standards and FCC frequency constraints.
But, like I said, ask Burstein. You all have repeatedly questioned my knowledge in this area (curiously, only when I disagree with you). I have no expectation that you would believe me now.
Looks like Mr. Burnstein did not do his homework as well as I expected.
Well, first of all, it's Burstein, not Burnstein.
Secondly, I want to thank you for the chuckle you gave me when you offered your pop-n-fresh opinion of Burstein's knowledge.
Simply speaking and in compliance with Shannon's law, Rim has found a way to increase the speed while decreasing the noise (S/N).
Thank you for the Pilsbury interpretation of Shannon's law. However, you are completely wrong. Noise is an intrinsic quantity. It cannot be "decreased". It is what it is...
One thing sure has not changed around here. There are still a bunch of armchair engineers who think they something. Of course those who actually do know something know better.
Fire away. I'm going back into the shadows.
Spoke, what is your opinion of Todays PR that disclosed the speed? Does this seem viable from a technical point of view IYO?
I see that not much has changed on this board. As Bill guessed, I have been quite busy moving into the new house and with the new job. I also can no longer post from work, so I don't come around all that often anymore. Despite that, Groove seems to still be completely obsessed with me. It's no wonder that his wife left him.
Incidentally, here in the new house, which is in the middle of nowhere in rural East Tennessee, I get my internet content and VoIP over a good DSL signal, and my video content is nicely delivered by satellite. All with existing products.
To answer your question, I am unimpressed with the PR. Without any additional information, the claims are meaningless. My $15 gigabit ethernet card can transmit data 10 times faster than VDSL2 over short distances. Not knowing what the test parameters are, I can only conclude that this PR is simply fluff. It is also important to point out that the comparison to traditional VDSL2 seems to be very carefully worded. At the risk of being once again accused by the esteemed 427Cobra of parsing the words in a PR, I should point out that the comparison seems to intentionally omit comparison to the faster VDSL2+ technologies out there. In fact, I found no comparison at all to VDSL2+ (the fastest technology currently on the market).
I also take issue with the reference to Telcordia as a "third party". While I suppose that they technically are a third party, the term is usually intended to refer to a disinterested third party. Given the fact that Telcordia was compensated by RIM (through a different third party) one could hardly call them disinterested.
This company has a long history of deception and misleading PRs. There was a time not all that long ago when they released a PR that Lucent had done similarly hype-worthy testing on a now defunct technology. Greaves and Propp of ANI also attested to the fantastic attributes of both the former defunct technology the PowerStream-based one. Not that long ago, this company heralded the release of their FPGA, complete with pictures, but it was later proven that those pictures were pirated from other companies and not pictures of an FPGA at all.
My point is that this company seems far more interested in making people believe that they have a viable product rather than actually producing one. That premise is reinforced by the fact they they spend many times more money on executive salaries than they do on R&D. Although I haven't researched it, my guess is that they spend more on promotional campaigns as well.
Meanwhile another commitment to produce an ASCI for revenue in the second half of this fiscal year seems likely to pass without result (only 2 months left in the fiscal year). That also should come as no surprise. Year after year after year after year, this company has made promise after promise after promise after promise of producing an ASIC. It just seems to never happen. Unlsee the company is seriously sandbagging, and production work started on the ASIC 6 months ago or so, there will be no ASIC this FY. No doubt there are some who will believe that the company is indeed sandbagging. But those are the same people who demanded that Embarq would be in the xBox.
Meanwhile, the industry continues to make strides. There have been at least 4 new generations of xDSL products released by competitors in the time that RIM has been diddling around with Embarq. Somehow, the PRs tell us, the RIM technology miraculously continues to get better than the competition, yet no product ever emerges.
History is a great teacher.
For some.
Previously known as Bell Labs...
That's technically not correct. Telcordia was previously known as Bellcore. Both were subsidiaries of AT&T before the breakup. The company formerly known as Bell Labs is Lucent. Isn't that an odd coincidence...
Its probably important to understand this part of the PR:
Telcordia's detailed study of Embarq(TM) uses accurate transmission system models including precise models of the copper telephone loop plant plus the impact of crosstalk and external noise...
They didn't test anything real. They tested models...that is, if they tested anything at all.
Given the fact that 6 years ago, this same company claimed that their previous "disruptive" technology had been "independently tested" by Lucent, I wouldn't bet the mortgage on this being the real deal.
My guess is that the SB-2 has (finally) been declared effective. That means that the shares underlying the debentures are now free-trading. Should be an interesting ride down from here...
You know of all the stupid posts I have made on this board...
Yeah, you could have just stopped there. It pretty much says it all...
Start stalking someone else. You're creeping me out.
Why on Earth would I do that? You gonna try to start stalking me again?
By the way I think...
There's your first mistake...
Yeah, you try to cost me my job because I bitch-slapped you on an internet board, and you talk about shame...
That's pathetic, man.
Yeah, I figured you'd deny it. Thankfully, you sounded enough like a lunatic on the phone that my company did not take you seriously. Not cool, man.
So let's hear about the new *top secret* job...
Not a chance. The last time you questioned me about my job, I gave you my contact info and then you stalked me and tried to get me fired when I pissed you off. I won't make that mistake again.
LOL!
Yet another internet virtual bad ass. Everyone on the internet is filthy rich, tough as Chuck Norris and hung like a horse.
LMAO!
Tough talk there, Pop-n-fresh.
You can dish it out just fine. Maybe its time to learn to take it too...
No, I took a job supervising a trash collection crew, and Groovie and doughboy are my bitches.
Louis:
Thanks for the sentiment. My daughter is fine, and she gave me a fine grandson earlier this year.
I took an exciting new job about 6 weeks ago. Because I am working in a secure facility, I cannot post here during the day. There really hasn't been much to say anyway.
con: Re: Proof the technology works!
NETGEAR LAUNCHES 200 Mbps POWERLINE Solution for High-Definition Video and Gaming
Product for in home use! It will probably work better when Rim's chip is used outside the home.
It is your assertion that the Netgear product is based on the ANI technilogy?
If so, then your DD sucks. The Netgear product is based on technology developed by a company called DS2. Read the Netgear PR. Its all there.
Propp, Adaptive and RIM have nothing at all to do with Netgear's product.
But, then, don't let the facts interfere with your euphoria...
I am still waiting for the proof however before I can completely agree with you. No one seems to ever be able to give me proof, only opinions.
I have given you copious proof that this company has lied many times. You simply choose to ignore it.
Rim does not have a going concern.
It was stated at the SHM.
LOL! Now *that's* funny. And yet, right after the SHM, they file an SB-2 with a "going concern" statement in it. Ray made the same promise at the SHM 4 years ago.
You were lied to again.
Some people never learn.
There *is* a "going concern" statement in the 10-K and the SB-2. That disqualifies RIM from winning any government contracts, regardless of what lies or promises were made at the SHM.
Spoke their [sic] is no "going concern" for rim this year.
There is a "going concern" statement in the "K" and the SB-2.
gold: Re: Did anyone challenge this statement at the annual meeting? "As a result, in December 2005 the Company was invited by the General Services Administration (GSA)"...
I addressed this back in December or January. The GSA does not invite specific companies to bid on RFPs. This is yet another example of how this company will twist the truth to suit their needs. A GSA "Request for Proposal" (RFP) is always entitled "Invitation For Bid". These "invitations" to bid are posted on a public web site and in business journals as an open invitation for anyone to bid on the scope of work detailed in the RFP.
This company makes it sound as though GSA has expressed some specific interest in RIM. It just doesn't work that way. An RFP, or invitation for bid, is posted by GSA. Anyone can bid on it, and usually, hundreds, if not thousands of companies typically will bid each RFP.
GSA then evaluates each proposal, and throws out the vast majority of them as unacceptable or unqualified. This is exactly where the RIM proposal (if they actually submited one) will end up. This is not speculation, it is fact. GSA is bound by the Federal Acquisition Regulations (FAR) in evaluating bids. The FAR requirements for financial stability of the bidding company are pretty strict. Specifically, the FAR prohibits any government agency from awarding a contract to a company with a "going concern" statement. RIM's proposal (if it exists) will be dismissed based on that alone. That is a simple fact.
Additionally, the federal government is not in the business of funding product development for companies. RIM does not have a manufacturable product - even if the fabled FPGA does actually exist. The FAR also require that GSA evaluate the ability of a bidding company to execute the scope. Since RIM has no manufacturing experience or history, and does not even have a taped-out design, any proposal submitted would be dismissed based on technical merit and ability to perform. This, again, is fact.
This company has simply used the GSA angle as another cheap trick to stimulate interest where there is absolutely no substance. They know that there are some ignorant investors out there who don't understand GSA or federal contracting. They are playing on that ignorance to effect their pump-and-dump schemes for their own benefit and to benefit the insiders. Notice that they also managed to throw the "homeland security" hot button in there as well.
It is truly shameless and disgusting. By law, RIM cannot win a single GSA award. They know that. Yet they tout the so-called "invitation" by the GSA as some sort of affirmation of their product. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Believe me, this is a subject that I know more than a little about.
Wow. How clever of you...
I have to admit that some of the people on this board are downright funny. Nothing but excuses and cheerleading as the share price plummets, but giddy as little schoolgirls when it goes up a fraction.
You can't make this stuff up. LOL!
I can't give you a link, but my E*Trade insider trading page shows that HelloSoft filed to sell 880,952 shares on 5/25.
That would explain the latest pump.
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Another paid pump during the quiet period? I recognize that the rules regarding the "quiet period" are vague, but paid public promotions are without a doubt taboo. Is the quiet period over?
Is it possible that they are trying to drive the share price up to benefit the "investors" that will dump the death spiral shares in the next few days?
Nah. Couldn't be. Sherman just got done telling us how honest and forthright this company is...
427: Re: The question about Rim having a legitimate (and actually outstanding) product was answered quite a while ago.
I agree. That questionv was answered with a resounding NO! when this company published a picture of a board from a consumer product, and stolen artwork from AMD and tried to pass them off as pictured of their "product".
Your shameless pumping is disgusting.
Not interested...
I'll bet you 1,000.00 dollars rim will deliver the powerfull E30 ASSP or FPGA this year to its customers
Excuse me, but didn't the company already claim to have delivered the FPGA to its customers?
you folks had me prepared for a .0001 level by Jan 1st - didn't happen did it?
And you folks had us prepared for $200/share. Didn't happen, did it?
jjz34: Re: Well, I looked at your post again, and your use of the word "wrong" in response to my post to Bill, was the very first word you used. You didn't say that??
You're right. I did say that. I just didn't remember saying it. My apologies.
And who said, that Ikanos's drop in sp was related to a threat from Rim, per se??
I believe it was HopefulOne.
And I don't understand all this dramatic "gauntlet", "throwing the gloves off" stuff. You're somewhere in Tennessee and I am in California, I'm over 40 now and haven't been in a fight since I left Chicago's south side many years ago.
I see that metaphors are out of the question now. I think that you know that I was referring to your decision to cease civil discussion with me on this board. I will try to be more clear in the future.
I just can't fathom why you and others seem to take so much satisfaction out of damning some honest sharholders who try to maintain a modicum of optimism.
I can't help but hope that you keep thinking I'm someone else. Believe me when I tell you that I take no satisfaction in anything related to this company. Furthermore, I rarely comment on anyone's optimism, unless I can offer my *opinion* regarding facts. I try very hard to avoid speculation, unless it is based on facts, and I am never negative just for the fun of it. This is serious business. It is my reasoned opinion that this company is a scam, and that Ray and Brad have swindled a lot of good people out of their money. There is a huge body of facts that support that conclusion. If you dispute any of the facts that have led to my conclusion, please feel free to do so.
It is just amazing, when you consider how much I am attacked and derided on this board, that you accuse me of takng satisfaction in hurting people. I guess that's OK, just as long as the people doing the attacking are supporters of this company.
Posted by spokeshave in response to some really bizarre stuff by density90210"
density: Let me first remind you that you were going to look into the facts I used for industry performance to refute your ridiculous speculation about RIM share price and market cap. I can only assume that since you did not provide anything substantial to refute my analysis, that you admit you were way off base with your wild speculation.
Now, it seems that you are trying to deflect attention away from me slapping you around, and instead have turned to attacking me and Ikanos. This is not the Ikanos board. However, some of your assertions are as patently ridiculous as your previous post, so I will answer.
Because you compared RIM to your beloved IKANOS however, I thought by taking some time to learn about a potential RIM competitor, I could answer you more clearly. What I learned however was appalling.
Well, first of all, Ikanos is not "beloved" by me. I considered buying on the IPO, but never did. I choose Ikanos as a comparison to RIM for several reasons:
1) They began development at almost exactly the same time that NVXE did.
2) They also touted the world's fastest xDSL chip.
These two facts make a comparison between the two a natural, logical choice. But I have also compared RIM to Infineon, Centillium, Metalink and others.
3% margins. If I were a U.S. company with supposed worldwide prospects for dissemination of broadband technology, reporting to have shipped over 10 million ports since 4th quarter of 2002, and to date had ZERO business in the United States, isn't that reason for concern?
Given the company's 50%+ quarter-on-quarter revenue growth, most investors see much more profitability in the future. My point, that you seem to have missed completely, is that it take a very large amount of volume to produce respectable margins in the semiconductor business due to the enormous up-front costs.
As for the US business, if you actually took some time to understand the industry, you would have found that virtually no telcos in the US currently offer *any* VDSL products. Ikanos manufactures VDSL products exclusively, and they always stated that their target market was Asia. Now, they are succeeding in their target market. Imagine that.
What about the fact they have one customer who represents 47% of their entire revenue base, and only three others?
What about it? I'm sorry, but I don't understand your point. There is only a handful of large telcos in Asia. Furthermore, Ikanos has exactly four more customers than RIM has.
Could you explain to the class Spoke what a "design win" is? And why is it Ikanos in all it's 10 million port history has not been successful in gaining a single design win with a company that represents a US telco?
Look up "design win" your own damn self. As I already said, no major us telcos offer VDSL. That is not Ikanos' current market.
Ikanos proports to have VDSL2 technology that transmits at up to 100 megs/sec. Why is it in none of their publications, distance is mentioned? Could this be one of the reasons US telcos have not wanted to dance with them?
Nobody mentions distance in any publications except in general terms. There are far too many variables that can dramatically affect reach. Ikanos does talk about reach in general terms.
Maybe they have no viable product?
LOL. Yup, they sold 10 million Actiontec modem boards and called them VDSL2 chips. Geez. You are really reaching. Just for the record, Ikanos' first generation products were tested in the DSL Olympics. Their results were so good, it caused the ITU to standardize on Ikanos' DMT as a result. But, if it makes you feel any better, you go right on ahead believing that they have no viable product.
Could you explain why a company that reportedly becomes "profitable" for the first time in 2005, has an IPO in October, authorizes a 12 for 1 reverse split, raises a bunch of capital, then virtually every officer, director, and insider holds a fire sale emptying his cofers of virtually all his stock within the last 45 days.
I think you are confused. Again. You say you're a doctor. You might want to consider Aracept. The reverse split took place before the IPO, when the company was still privately held. There are currently only about 24MM shares outstanding - about 5% of what RIM has. As for the fire sale by insiders, I can't explain it, though I haven't looked into it. I will say that it is not uncommon for insiders who have been invested privately for many years to sell some shares to reward themselves when the company goes public.
I have to admit that I don't understand your visceral attack on Ikanos. I have only used them as an example of a company that began when RIM did, yet has succeeded immensely, where RIM has failed miserably.
Given your grave concerns about Ikanos, how can you possibly have any remaining interest in RIM? You are making absolutely no sense.
jjz: Re: I am starting to get the feeling that you are now Whp's "spokeperson."
I speak only for myself. Who do you speak for?
How is my post "wrong" as you put it???
I didn't say that.
So you don't find Ikanos (cited by you, among others, as the pioneer and leader in this market) recent sp drop of 34% off it's high (I didn't verify that number) relevant to the discussion on Rim's board?
Actually, no. I don't. At least in the context that the share price drop is in any way related to a threat from RIM, which is what was posted. RIM has no product and won't for a long time if ever.
I'll bet if it was UP 34% you wouldn't feel that way and in fact I bet you'd cite it as another piece of evidence that Ikanos is dominating this marketplace.
You'd bet wrong. In fact, if you go back and look, you will find not a single post by me related to Ikanos' 100% gain from its IPO price. Every reference I ever made to Ikanos was directly relevant to RIM. It seems like you newest hobby is putting words in my mouth.
Sorry you found my "vitriol disappointing" but I am not looking for anyone's approval just as you don't.
Trust me, I won't lose any sleep over it. You were just the last one with whom it seemed I could carry on a civil discussion. I guess those days are over. I'll be perfectly happy to take the gloves off. Just remember that it was you who threw down the gauntlet.
...maybe it's an indication that Ikanos is losing its' grip, not doing so well or as well as expected, maybe it's a product of new, emerging competitors, maybe it's a reflection on the marketplace as a whole...
Two days ago, Ikanos posted almost 200% YoY revenue growth, and two big new wins. It doesn't sound like they are losing their grip. My guess is that there is some profit-taking going on. Nonetheless, I saw it as a buying opportunity and bought my first Ikanos stock today. No doubt that will give you people some more fodder for attacking me. Go ahead. I can take it.
But we will wait for you to tell us when it's relevant, ok?
LOL. More sideways digs. I recognize the behavior. Its what happens when you finally start to realize what a big mistake this investment was and you lash out. I'm used to it, believe me.