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BBB answer the questions please
can you provide proof of a verifiable business?
What about the $130MM revenue?
What about the CTBG dividend?
WHat are the current share counts, floating, authorized, closely held, insider both (144 and non)?
that will do for now
thank you in advance
Here's the deal
they've got 7 days to accomplish the following
distrbiute the warrants
get executions on the warrants
file for permits to drill
hire a drilling rig (*7)
spud the wells
Now, I figure that in the unlikely event that someone actually does file a complaint and or suit against jim dial, he and his crack legal team will use a combination of a forward looking statement defense, along with a track record defense
Well, Andy, did you read the PR's about the venezuelan order, the al haig show, the multiple buyout offers from europe, the 225 buyout offer from layamec, the jet motor pr the income statement, the ctbg dividend, the share buyback agreement?
Well, yes sir I did
Now Andy, after so many PR's that failed to materialize did you REALLY think that this time would be different? I mean you had the chance to sell at .15, .12, .08, .05 etc, right?
10 bag
I have often wondered, why BBB, while posting these wholesale guarantees, for years now, of "profits surely to come" etc etc etc ad nauseum, why he doesn't answer your questions outright, why he won't prove there's a verifiable business, why he won't post some kind of links to the jet motor's 2 Million per month per 50 units while they also extend the productivity of each well by 20% or more, why he won't prove the share counts or even tell us what they are.....yet he's so vehement that this one is going to pay off and says so every few days
BBB,
Pleasee answer the question. I mean, surely you know that a lot of people are hanging on your every word, right? Lots of people consider you the expert, and I have read more than a few times, "if bbb is hanging on, so am I" from the likes of andy, etc. It's an easy question 10Bag is asking you.
I would also know
"what are the share counts, how many floating, how many issued, how many owned by dial and close management and how many 5% holders are there and what are their positions...."
thanks and maybe instead of pie in the sky "this one's going to make me rich and you can come along too, I've got a million share, and don't worry I'm down a quarter million dollars in my own account", you can give the loyal longs here something in the way of PROOF.
if not, then WHY WON'T YOU?
Andy:
You're almost there...
The powers that be took it down some more. You can bet your bottom that next Friday we will be even lower. There is something strange at play here. If all the longs are holding and there are only 40 million shares...
Hmmm, answer me a question, why do you think there are only 40 million shares?
Because Jim Dial said so?
and,, if he lied? if he's printing shares right and left, then what?
he's going to jail? you gotta be kidding me
even if he was caught lying, and did, in fact go to jail, would that bring your money back, or just make you "on the right side"?
Please take a step back and check your assmptions... please
you konw it wouldn't surprise me
that is the one thing that triggered my sniff test gag reflex on this one, is how the CEO will tell the right people exactly what the news is and when it's coming out
just another reason why someone could sue dialer, if they wanted to make certian their short position was maximize
yes they addressed the issue of fibroid size, and the one investigator who measured fibroid size via ultrasound saw a significant decline in size
another guess is that they never intended to get warrants out in the first place and just fabricated something to have the ability to print and sell another few million shares
ten million shares at .06 is 6 hundred grand- PAYDAY!
Len, never mind I kept it pretty cool, although I was tempted to call a spade a spade.Any changes need to be made let me know, i saved the post in word.
BBB wrote:
I am NOT, as you claim, trying to stir any trouble between 10 bagger and myself. Strangely enough, I can respect his views and stance, with the exception of his rather rash conclusions and presumptions you’re kidding right?. What exactly is rash about saying that there’s nothing to the business until proven and they’ve yet to prove 130 Million in business? That’s not rash, that’s good business sense, to not only ask BEFORE buying into a stock, what’s the proof, but after such a lousy track record, insisting on it! RASH? I cannot believe this statement, at all about Grifco and his over-the-top accusatory suppositions about Dial. accusatory suppositions? Dialer sat there and lied to cleverrox’s face, knowing he was a large shareholder, yet the accusations are unfounded? Over the top because he’s (supposedly, if there ever was ONE in the first place not to mention how many he’s claimed) let one audit go by after the other? Remember the crack team of auditors? 10Bag is being KIND and BENEVOLENT to dialer
Someone here -- and the reason that I say "here" is because a person did capture a screen shot of my post from this site -- faxed an anonymous copy of that post, presenting it as having been my words, and it was NOT taken kindly by management. It is no great mystery to Dial who I am. I have met with him on two separate occasions (April 4 and August 9 of 2006), so the ease with which he can contact me to vent his frustrations in the case of such venomous words -- words he thought were mine to refute -- is the cause for my genuine concern. did you ever once stop to think that dialer has been looking for an excuse to cut off communications with you? Did you ever once consider that you’ve been the biggest royal pain in his ass, with your phone calls every two days, numerous attorneys, shareholder coalitions, visits to his office etc etc etc etc etc etc. I bet Jarvis didn’t warn him about someone like you when they passed the scam baton. Dialer IMO IMO IMO “probably” (keep in mind that this is ALL my suppositions and my own unverified opinion which is probably wrong) screen shotted your post himself, faxed it to himself, and then sent word down the line that he was pissed, all so he could a) cut you off from further communication and b) justify in his own mind giving you the shaft just like he’s IMO been giving all the other nameless faceless shareholders the same shaft all this time. Any slight justification will do when you’re looking for a way to feel better about committing “screw the little guy”, or in your case “the big guy”. Dialer doesn’t need any fax coming through to his office to see your posts, he looks here on a regular basis, I’m sure of it.
I vehemently resent what someone is trying so very hard to do to me. The fact that someone is trying very hard to cause me distress is good indication that something is definitely awry outside of Grifco. Some individual or some group very cleary has great disdain for my positive view of what I consider now to be an inevitable outcome -- a really great outcome.Maybe just maybe they’re pissed because they listened to you and bought this POS in the first place, and then listened to you again when they wanted to sell, and didn’t and now are out a trainload of money. in Medical school, we were taught, when you hear hoofprints look for horses not zebras. You increasingly look for and blame some non-existent conspiracy theory of stealing and or counterfeiting shares to sell, when the company has it’s own printing press and dialer won’t let ANYONE see the transfer agent’s statement as to how many shares there are outstanding…. There really is a business operating in Scott, LA that has been hot on a ramp-up of production (an eyewitness has reported recent increases in productivity and can attest to those FACTS), this is why people are pissed at you. You state guesses and hearsay as fact. and there really is a business operating out of Houma, LA that is also ramping up productivity (same eyewitness can also attest to those FACTS). Sure, I don't know the actual numbers as of yet, but we will all know them soon enough, won't we?NO, you won’t. if dialer was going to post numbers, audits, any kind of verifiable financial information he would have already, I’m sure of it
Now, one insurmountable observation I simply cannot logically reason through is this: Why in the world would Grifco work so hard to go all-out public by going into an OTCBB company if a long and lingering look at its financial picture was anything but positive? they probably are not, IMO they are going through the motions to appear as if they are, but they’re probably not any closer to merging than they ever were. I conceive of no possible reason to work hours upon hours, only to reveal a bleak financial state.IMO they won’t reveal it, and some people would work tirelessly if it were profiting them a hundred thousand a month to do so It would NOT make any sense to do so! MMMMMMOOOOOONNNNEEEEEEY!/ Simple logic invariably reveals that finances MUST be good -- ok, maybe not exceptionally so, but good enough to reveal to any and all probing eyes. Sure, there is absolutely nothing that one can dare review now, once again you’re kidding right? Dare review? There’s nothing daring about it. I sure would do it in a heartbeat and everyone else would too. It takes actual paper and of course permission to look at it, but IMO neither is coming, any time soon but soon enough, there will be.wrong again, IMO IMO IMO there’s not any merger happening Until it happens, nothing -- and I do mean nothing -- can be definitively declared final.let me guess, one of your great-uncles stood on the last dry piece of the Titanic and was last heard yelling, “ITS ONLY A WAVE SHE’LL BE RIGHTING HERSELF ANY MINUTE NOW”
The following FACTS about Grifco's past I can accept:
1) Very disappointing choice of a reverse merger candidate in LTBI that subsequently led to the inability to properly audit their financials by September 2005;
2) Severe lack of even reasonable amount of follow-through on far too many of their PR's, which led to widespread doubt and distrust in the authenticity of PR's;
3) Shamefully disappointing recurrence of another poor choice of a reverse merger candidate in IPHG for CTT, which led to a greater degree of doubt and distrust;
4) Poorly written (or worded) and rather confusing (and often contradictory and/or rebutting) PR's that led to even more of widespread doubt and distrust;
5) Wickedly manipulative sell-off of phantom (or counterfeit) shares by nefarious groups of entrepreneurially opportunistic vermin, who hope for bust; and
6) Long and drawn-out timetables to accomplish any measure of observable progress in their ambitious plan of restructuring, spinning-off CTT and merging with TTII.
Now, I understand that there have been "force majeur" reasons for the delays upon delays, so they can print more shares, sell them and pocket the moneybut regardless of the many untold reasons (justifiable or otherwise), it does tend to wear upon the shoulders of those who wait with great anticipation.great aniticpation? Try crushing despair! The likes of Oracle, who wait as patiently as possible for any of the progress to be made known, are only human, and humans can only wait so long, to be sure, before they move on to greener pasture. But I, my dear friends, am as patient as I must be, that I might reap the rewards that I know can be had with the likes of Grifco.KNOW? there you go again.
I sincerely do believe that this "stray dog" stock is grossly undervalued. Sure, it may look bad for the moment, but I can wait long enough until the true value that I know know? Proof isn’t anywhere to be foundis there is fully revealed. As the hero of DUNE, Paul Atreides, once did say, "The sleeper MUST awaken!"not if it’s a terminal coma
lentiman
I would very much like an e-mail from you. I cannot post private messages, yet I feel that this last barrage of posts by BBB needs a carefully worded rebuttal, yet I dn't want to get into yet another war with you about the PC'ness of my post, so I'll run it by you first if you will let me, to avoid you pulling post after post and wasting us both time.
thanks
it's bltiman AT yahoo DOT com
thank you and I'll not waste much of your time...........
This makes me believe you represent a short position.
LOL trinity, if you can find out how to short a pinky from a little ol retail account in the US of A, I would be mighty happy to be short this POS, right now and forever more.
Alas, the almost 100% or full 100% to be gained is out of my reach unless I move to Grand Cayman or the BC on the West Coast, cause shorting a pinky is not possible.
This one's going to $0.0001, fairly soon and I would love to be short it, but I'm not.
trinity:
there is nothing to the latest rumors of warrants and gas wells
there is no permit
there is no application according to the person I spoke with
they aren't happening and it's the latest ploy, IMO, to sell shares to the public that are new and freshly printed
call it what you want but this one's a bigger turkey than LTBI ever was
reverse split takes this to .0001 split adjusted IMO, and fairly soon
a hundred thousand bucks turns into one crisp ten dollar bill, not even enough to buy lunch at McDonalds for three
tampa,
I compared grifco to litfiber because they are one and the same. ducks of the same feather if you will.
The latest and greatest hope of these "investors" is some hair brained scheme to drill oil and gas wells, yet strangely enough, even though the PR mentioned within 30 days, there hasn't been any permit filed for, or granted for any of the possible owners, or benefactors.
as for cyo, there wasn't anyone on earth that agreed with him, and I mostly enjoy his posts, but he was way off the mark and everyone knew it.
I am wrong on a lot of things, have been and will be for many more years, Lord willing, wrong about lots of stuff. But I also have supreme confidence to know when I'm right, I'm right.
Dial ain't drilling no gas wells, tampa and the market knows it
mandjb
you're absolutely correct, his second post was "never mind"
oh that all the loyal longs could have listened to him then.....
Tampa- Nonsense. Absolute pure nonsense. Sorry if that offends you. But still. Geeze. People who held litfiber stock, still have some minute shred of money in that account, if they stayed through the reverse split. Their stock holdings were divided by either 100, or 200 but still, a thousand dollars either became $10, or $5, but the people having negative comments on that stock and J Jarvis, have not been proven correct yet?
Tell the truth, Tampa, if you would have known, when you first purchased GFCI, that it would see the .04's and stagnate below .10 for at least 2 months would you have still bought it then? No way, but it's an unfair question, right? How about this one then, if you had refrained from buying, and put it on a watchlist, would you still consider buying it knowing the history of lies and miscues by management? If you're at all an honest man, or woman, you'd better say NO WAY.....
which proves my point that I was right, about all along!
78
Umm tampa, you're kidding, right?
OK, what would consitute proving me either, right, or wrong?
thanks
because so far I've been right on the money about share price movement, dividend, financials or lack therof, audits, etc etc
why don't you please name me one person here who has been MORE RIGHT, than I, and then name me one "loyal long" who has been "right" about anything at all?
thanks
I am certain the float is much higher than anyone other than the real bashers would estimate.
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Ummmmmmm HELLOOOOO McFLY! ANYONE IN THERE?
That's what I have been saying since two summers ago! The float is extraordinarily large.
As for the "real bashers" comment, I am guessing that I would fit into that definition.
But, I would like an honest appraisal, about just when someone leaves basher status, and gets into the "was right all along" status.
Because for my part, I was just being openly honest and appropriately negative about a high level con job, a massive share printing scheme with no legitimate business plan or proposal, that was just desigend to enricht the few lucky ones who dreamed it up.
Why do people still refer to me, and the others here who were right all along, as bashers.
I think a basher is someone who makes stuff up, posts ad nauseum about fictional or marginal, negative implications of the company they're studying, and ignores the truth, or the positives completely.
right now, if they were ever to complete the dividend payout, you would get 1.89 X .03 or about .0567 plus retain your share of grifco which is .07. So you'd get thirteen cents minus the contribution of the CTBG to the grifco business which is subtracted when the dividend is paid. So, you held grifco doen from 25 cents in may, for the record date, til now which MIGHT POSSIBLY IF PIGS DO EVER REALLY FLY get you thirteen cents.
And I'm a basher
Be careful, there are a few people here who have invested their life savings on Jim Dial
Tina,
so now he's a liar, as well as filthy mouthed and immature?
Go figure
RPRX-
I hate to keep beating a horse, especially when it's just won the Derby and rounding the last leg to get the triple crown, but the price targets established here:
Coverage and targets
ThinkEquity: $18
Punk Ziegel: $25
were for one, $30 and $25, and Think changed theirs down, but to not digress too much they were 12 month time frames based on the outcomes we just saw, happening, with moderate to good results, and with the risk figured in. So IOW, the price targets are now, where we should be, looking forward to more good news.
Even riding the 13.20 range it's still undervalued by about half and I think people are realizing it slowly, or they realize it but can only buy and hope not to run it up too much before they take their position......
This is yet another nice day
strong buy to $25 then it's a moderate buy/hold until after financing
thank you len for that link
I think someone disagreed about that last one, though
I agree Tina
one of the most despicable things I have ever seen on any message board is spitnick posting a picture of his own grandchild using an obscene and disgusting gesture, in public no less
I think sputnick is either still in the trailer park, or not far out of it, that his kith and kin are either still there, or headed back there, eventually
it's so sad, really
Len,
You have removed multiple posts of mine during my involvmenet on this board. I have no desire to personally attack anyone, but do feel like I should be able to point out off color and or wrong behavior, misleading posts, or disingenous statements (ie lying).
I would appreciate if you would detail for me, your rules as pertains to this board, and how they differ from other boards you moderate.
It would save both of us time, my posting, and your deleting, if I know what is and is not permitted upfront.
Thank you very much
Dr Bill
North Carolina
strongus you removed my post?
way to go dude, if you get called on a load of BS then just take it down
Len LOL,
I was considering doing that myself just to see exactly where king strongus (that is the hardest word to typre for me for some reason) stood but arguing with someone about a dying or rather already dead but doesn't know it yet pinkshit stock wasn't worth my time (unless his majesty had to push the issue) but I am glad to see that His Higness would have had to, statistically, buy (MUCH) more than 20 times his previous load to have averaged down into a positive position, unless of course he was lying all those time, lying now to save face, or traded out of those losing positions and is now hoping to regain all that was lost by this one MASSIVE purchase at $ .047
I wonder if the Emporer has any truth serum to feed to the KING to get him to spill his guts about just where he stands on this one......
but then again he's up 1000% in JUST ONE of his tickers so who are we to judge or question??????
strongus, I'll give you one thing, you can get excited about anything
even a 60% move
(you also can calculate percentages, I'll give you that, too, unlike our resident expert in all things short selling)
nice three cents strongus
probably balances out your purchases in the 25 cent range, and the high teens, too
you got one, right, out of three I know about.
way to go
remember stongurs, even a blind pig scares up a nut once in a while
wow, you're filthy!
I mean filthy rich!
your buying at .047 brought your cost basis where, first of all, secondly, you're crowing about a three cent rise, you realize that don't you?
OT- do you see RPRX strongus?
going into the open last monday I had a very large% of my portfolio in that stock- and it's still undervalued by a factor of 4, easily
but you're too busy gamblimg with pinky stocks to bother with good companies, aren't you?
sputnick why does it not surprise me in the least that you would be proud of someone in your family acting in such a vulgar way? especially a child?
You have quite possibly the least class of anyone I have ever run across.
It's sad, really.
RPRX- I know this is a value board and not a short tterm trading board, but gosh I really like what I see from the action today.
Stock run from 6-12 and a pullback more than 10% only shook out maybe a hundred thousand shares? Two tops?
amazing and the stock price should continue on its upward trend towards a more fair value of $20-$25 BEFORE any financing and if they do it correctly and are good on the road shows 35-40 is not out of the question going into final results, don't forget the INSANE p values they found on relatively small n's
my fear is that some of the retail investors are trying to get money together to actually buy these warrants, as if they haven't lost enough money by now as it is....
there's risky money,
and there's gambling problem, and I see some of the gambling addiction behavior on this site and on the RB site, it's really kind of sad
Once again, just like when the stock was trading north of $.15, I wish I could short this stock. Anyone know how a little US retailer can short a pinky?
like candy from a baby, this one's going to $0 or close enough
Best2
Sometimes, in the market, commom sense is what is left out to dry. Do you REALLY think that anyone is going to give Jim Dial a check to cash???? Even if he is able to issue warrants to some of the shareholders (I never got my CTT shares, my account in AMTD was never notified of the dividend and they laughed when I asked about a shareholder meeting notification giftwrapped with a CD inside) do you really think there's more than one or two people in the world that are stupid enough to trust jim dial to actually execute something? Enough to write him a check?
If so, that person really shouldn't have had expendable money in the first place, I'm sorry to say.
IMO this is the end game, and will be the excuse for Jim Dial to fold tents and leave. Couldn't make enough money on warrants to get a well going, and had to let the tool business go to focus on that we're out of money and TTII is taking over now, BYE BYE.
AFter all didn't they break ground on the metal shed almost a year ago in Libya? Haven't heard much about things actualy happening there have we?
I wonder why? Maybe the naked shorters cut the intercintonental telephone line so Jim Dial couldn't release the good news.....
Best2;
besides all that talk about how the PPS was going to skyrocket in 12/26 when all the naked shorts were going to have to put their clothes on again, and besides that fact that dial has neve once done anything he said he would do, I would say all the longs are going to be FILTHY oops I mean FILTHY RICH. Oh wait a minute isn't this the 26th? If they were going to cover wouldn't the naked shorts be done by now?
OMYGOSH
houstin I think we might have a little wee leettle problem
RPRX- I'm not sick of it at all! LOL it's been a while since my portfolio experienced this kind of appreciation.
Given that the stock has been either held down, or just suffered from a redheaded stepchild syndrome for the past year I would not be surprised to see $20 before any significant pullback......
as of the close of business today, you're all filthy! Ooops I mean filthy rich> Congrats on a GREAT WIN and rememeber the only good winners are the good guys. I mean TRULY it's about time that BBB, B2B, all my other fiends here finally got what they deserved. I hope those warrants go STRaIGHT TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MERRY CHIRSTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!
you "know" this NOT to be a scam?
how exactly?
you still haven't answered my questions about the information you're providing in your posts and where it comes from...
clever, oracle
be careful they're going to kick you out of the club if you're caught being nice to me...
congrats on your good day today
I think Tuesday will be even better, maybe not % wise but $ up, yes there's a good chance
have a great holiday to all!
OT
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RPRX
did you get started on the eggnog a little early trinity?
cyofish
this is the post I first replied to and it was on MONDAY, much earlier in the week. I think I mentioned to him on Tuesday that you had posted this.
Secondly, you have no idea who I am or what my background is. My first degree was finance, and I was speficially groomed to go the university of Arizon's school of business mba/phd finance program before I found my healthcare calling.
that's enough of the discussion about theoretical returns shorting stock.
Suffice to say, that the + return shorting is finite and the loss is potentially infinite.
You canot "TRIPLE" your money shorting because they won't let you short more than what's in your account. short a $100 stock with a .10 account? yeah right.
enuff said