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410 million share ownership in Liquidmetal LF by Lugee Li.
It is not rocket science to figure out its in Li’s best interest to foster revenue flow to LF amigo!
Let the shares do the talking!!!!!!
Looks like we have a confirmation of Liquidmetal being used in 3 whale CE companies last year with reported revenue with our sister company!
Just the start to a huge ramp up in production with these whales.
This is why investors are holding tight into their shares, and why shorting gets more dangerous everyday with this stock.
Everyone keeping their eye on what our partners are doing in CE, which will lift all boats!!!
Developed in “joint partnership”.
Seems to me it’s those who argue against joint ownership who need to show why in the world a new formula developed in “joint partnership” would NOT be owned by both partners.
The more fanciful the explanation the less credible.
It seems clear to me from design guide 4.2, as well as BB statements in his blog that Liquidmetal owns rights to 106C since it is one of the BMGs they offer.
Question I have is in regard to a revenue stream from CE products produced for European and Canadian countries from Eontec and our JVs using 106C.
It would be in Lis best interest to ensure revenue stream to LF, but we are waiting on an agreement from Li to spell this out.
There is no question about LF rights to ownership of 106C in question.
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/300328:CH
Eontec going up again!
Question I have is if Eontec is using 106C for CE parts, why have we not seen an agreement for this?
Would Li not be required to make such an agreement public, if products are being produced from new Liquidmetal formula made in partnership with LF.
Can he legally withhold such information from investors?
Excellent point and totally agree.
Now we just need an agreement from Li so we know precisely where LF stand in regard to revenue.
“The good news is that Professor Li assurred THOAND, CRISPY and WATTS that Liquidmetal LF would be profitable by my birthday, January 2020 when I turn 75.”
I thought Li said profitability way before your 75th, according to your last post?
So which is it?
Let’s see, so you are telling us that Li confided in and gave time frame of success to someone who called his investment a scam?
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“I think the April 10K from Eon will be telling.”
This is what we all hope, rather than another strike out.
We also need Li to forge and release a new agreement in this partnership between Eontec/LF so we know where LF stands in regard to potential revenue.
I would think he could do this without violating any NDA’s, and disappointed that we haven’t heard from him on this very important issue.
With implementation of 5g then I would say BMG middle frame for sure.
With no 5g, and no announcement of BMG, but metal, chances are slim to none for BMG mid frame.
Metal mist likely equals stainless steel.
“Professor Li is probably accomplishing a lot, but isn't about to go on a tweeting splurge until something sticks instead of stinks.”
This is the quote for the day!
Let’s all hope he is operating with such integrity as the backdrop to his silence.
“I think anybody that dumped a few hundred thousand shares to get back in at a lower price might be disappointed.”
Absolutely correct. Something, somebody holding us at 0.15. Many who shorted are unpleasantly surprised I am sure.
No one holding back anyone’s hand to keep them from selling amigo.
Everyone has to take responsibility for their own decisions.
CEO 2.4 years. Control of company didn’t start until Steipp stepped down.
101 business introduction course.
Problem is not the hype, but the lack of Li delivering anything of value since he took over.
In spite of his failures, investors are still hoping for contracts and revenue, thus the 0.15 cent holding pattern.
Honestly I think we still have more holding power, but a Chinese communist CEO is just plain bad for communication to investors, but not surprising.
At least Steipp had enough respect to communicate with investors regularly. This communist CEO doesn’t respect squat, and is losing/lost trust with investors.
I am also starting to wonder if he’s planted people/person on this board to artificially keep share price higher.
After all the hype, Huawei P30 not even 5g let alone Liquidmetal mid frame.
Another strike out to add to three years of strikes.
Something is starting to smell foul!
Not Liquidmetal.
Won’t take anytime at all if price is right.
Many are still WAITING to get back in at 0.13.
Didn’t Li already make his move from Liquidmetal USA to China?
As far as the 2-3 dollar investors, if any are still around what does that say about them?
I hope these aren’t the kind you want back amigo?
Maybe it’s time for me to sell off 750,000 shares and wait for lower prices, say 0.06?
What say you?
It’s no fantasy amigo!
Public announcements for these partnerships abound.
Patience amigo. Li has been CEO for a little over two years.
He has his own money wrapped up into Liquidmetal LF, and you can be sure he is carefully monitoring and directing every move toward success. Just not in your timing, but his.
If partnerships are real, Maze is real amigo.
Good luck with your strategy.
Like I said a HUGE risk to short especially with 50 percent of your holdings.
Not worth the headache nor risk to me of losing out on a 1000 percent plus gain for a few bucks.
Keep us posted on how it goes.
Let’s see if our batting averages improve or get worst with next report.
“The problem in China, is they too have an amorphous metal capacity problem. And if they do, LQMT has one too. Because their capacity is very limited.”
Can you please provide some proof for this statement in terms of limitation.
Last time I checked Eontec said the have medium capacity for mass manufacturing BMG. And Li has been expanding this out through JVs over last 3 years. Just take a look at the maze for proof.
This all contradicts your statement that “their capacity is very limited.”
So please help the board to see some proof for your above statement.
“LQMT is pausing from continuing it downward trend.”
I agree and this must be hard on those who sold off hoping for much lower prices.
This is the risk they take, and if Li announce even one decent size contract we will potentially jump 5 to 10 times our current share price vs the 0.03-0.05 cents traders are hoping to make.
Big risk trading for little reward IMHO!!!
Completely disagree amigo!
“Divide 22 by 0.16 to see the magnitude to the downside by the buy and hold strategy. LOL! “
I doubt there are more than a handful of investors at most who have purchased at 22 and held long.
In fact over the last 11 years there have been ample opportunities to buy in at 0.06-0.10 and hold long. Many investors like myself have done so.
So your argument is not really relevant to the majority of long investors and their current situation.
Yes sir. Totally agree. Many have got burnt trying to trade and short this stock.
The other thing we can conclude is the majority of investors are hanging tight onto their shares.
So with little selling and others wanting to get in the game the price is going up.
Not exactly what shorts or traders were hoping for is it amigo?
There are critical events coming up and seems to me investors are hanging on to their shares waiting on Li for his partnership agreement to be released, and TW to end.
Nobody wants to miss out on a potential 2000 percent gain.
Risk/reward is critical factor in investing!
Looks like the HOPE to buy back in at 0.10 or even 0.13 has slipped away as we continue to head toward 0.16.
It seems investors are more justified in putting their HOPE in the CE business and manufacturing being generated in China to lift the Liquidmetal LF boat.
Let’s HOPE Li announces that new agreement with LF soon, so we have a confirmation of where we stand in regard to revenue flow from partnership.
For now 0.16 cents is a good bet that Li will open some of the flood waters towards LF way.
“First of all Li did not author this press release.”
He may not have authored it, but as CEO of Liquidmetal LF he sure as hell authorized it amigo.
“2) There is no evidence that Li put in $64M of his "hard earned money" ... I think the Chinese government and EONTEC shareholders pumped in the majority of that cash.”
I’m not sure which PRs you have been reading, but all the ones I have read point out that the Eontec shares Li sold off for the 64 million dollars he invested in a Liquidmetal belonged to Li. He then took the shares he purchased from Liquidmetal and is holding them under Liquidmetal technology limited owned and founded by Li.
“I just wish this thing would go one way or the other instead of this never ending mystery saga that I was sucked into so long ago .... how many times do I need to tell myself that if this stuff could not be made profitable over a 20 + year period it is probably another pipe dream ?”
Keep your chin up amigo. Li invested his 64 million, purchased a 8 million dollar building, spent hundreds of thousands on electric hook up, and has not taken a salary as CEO all for the goal of making Liquidmetal successful.
After all can you imagine a CEO making such an investment, and then not caring one way or another if the company succeeds. Only a business fool would do such a thing, and Li is no fool.
Keep your eye on what Li is doing with CE, and the Maze, and you will soon be aMAZed!!!
Spartan, I hope you get your 0.12 cents before this stock takes off, just because I know how long you have held on to your shares before selling.
I myself don’t feel comfortable taking such a huge risk, especially with so many irons in the fire that could turn this company and stock around overnight.
You might indeed get your 0.12 cent shares, but it’s also possible you could miss out on a 2000 percent run that happens overnight.
I stay invested because I still believe Li is in full control of this company he invested 64 million of his hard earned money into, I believe in his vision, and goal to make Liquidmetal a global enterprise, I believe in his current strategy for mass production of Liquidmetal through his maze, and I believe he will indeed bring Liquidmetal LF to NASDAQ as he said he would.
Good luck to you as you wait for 0.12.
I absolutely love many of the credible and forward looking posts that map out what Li is doing with CE. It’s just a matter of time before we see revenue come our way. Many are invested here because they believe in the technology and understand that Lugee Li is making real progress for mass manufacturing Liquidmetal that will only help the cause of this company.
Is it a risk being invested in a penny stock? Sure it is. Li has officially been CEO of this company a little over two years. Let’s give him the rest of this year at least to show us the money.
March 25 Huawei will provide information about their P30 smartphone, and April 26 Eontec comes out with their report. So potentially we can receive some news before Liquidmetal next quarterly report that can impact the stock.
It's a huge risk to be trading this stock, and I for one will not follow the crowd.
Go team Lugee Li!!
And another one comes along trying to argue against CE revenue for Liquidmetal LF. How many times will this need to be clarified.
The context for no compete is within the context and agreement up to 2016 March.
There is absolutely nothing in the MTA that explicitly states this extends outside of this context and beyond the period of the license agreement.
Sorry unless you have explicit facts for what you suggest I will have to take this as your assumption with no real evidence from MTA or elsewhere to back it up.
Many doubt and bash the notion that Li has set up the Maze with JVs and other key partners including Liquidmetal LF to globalize Liquidmetal in CE.
They call it hype, yet offer no alternative path with real numbers or products for how Li is going to bring Liquidmetal LF to profitability. And when they do offer a solution it’s with no verifiable facts and with far less substantiating information behind it than the proposal of CE being Liquidmetals chosen pathway.
The reality remains that Li has just recently developed the maze for mass manufacturing Liquidmetal. This is a fact. What we are waiting on is for the revenue flow to LF to be substantiated with a new partner agreement with LF, and this will not happen until Li is ready to let the cat out of the EONTEC bag.
EONTEC’s quarterly report pushed out to April tells me there is something Li is holding back to announce until then.
Eontec has already reported that they are a second tier company producing medium quantity Liquidmetal parts for Huawei. Big question is who is the first tier company producing the larger quantity of Liquidmetal parts. I believe this will be revealed in April.
Li explicitly said his goal was mass production of BMG in the CE world in this new partnership with Liquidmetal. He also said it would have to be done through the MAZE (JVs, etc), because LF has small and Eontec only medium production capability.
He also said he wants to bring LF to NASDAQ.
I don’t see electric hook up having any significance to our profitability in next few years. It’s already been noted that management said it did not hinder production in any way while waiting for hook up.
Arguing for slow and steady revenue growth vs millions of revenue through CE does not in itself substantiate an argument either way.
The question is what has Li explicitly revealed to us about his plan for making LF profitable, and what evidence do we have that he is following through with his plan.
There has been much information and evidence for CE, but very very little for those who claim the slow and steady path. And electric hook up is no real evidence as pointed out earlier.
I believe this is our year, and it’s just a matter of timing before Li unleashes the new partner agreement and revenue flow to LF.
Until then I hold on patiently waiting on Li’s timing, which I believe will happen 1st half of 2019.
I am still amazed at the Maze Lugee Li has set up for the large scale mass manufacturing of Liquidmetal parts.
It seems ironic to me that this great need for large scale manufacturing to make Liquidmetal successful, now fulfilled by Luggee Li Maze, is now being greeted by doubt and criticism.
I’m really glad that the electric hook up at LF is progressing along at LF, and potential for small scale manufacturing, but I agree with you that large scale orders for Huawei etc need to be fulfilled by the Maze, and not even Eontec by themselves can handle such orders. The Maze is the solution to liquidmetal's plight, and what will bring it to profitability and NASDAQ.
Yet, so far two of the four events have passed without solid confirmation of anything that impacted share price. Let’s hope next two events yield a little more fruit.
I do hope that EONTEC’s quarterly report in April begins to shed light on all of this and Li comes out with a partner agreement with Liquidmetal LF at that time spelling out LF cut of the pie.
Still holding long and a believer precisely because of CE potential, Lugee’s Maze and investment into LF!