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Great advice. Let's just hope some follow it.
FBR Capital upgraded CPST this a.m. To outperform. News at 07.51.
I realize that this is an old piece,but it bears fruit to how practical the CPST turbine is in industrial applications.
And if CPST wanted to enter the lower level alternative power standby sector, think what competition they could give to Generac.
http://www.tatneft.ru/press-center/press-releases/more/467?lang=en
Simple. When and if CRE goes public. Buy it.
Now we have CPST with a decent history,a proven product and nearing profitability.
I'll stay with CPST and keep CRE in my watch file.
Best yo you.
The person who wrote the article is long CLNE and WPRT.
His name is Charlie.
I have no position.
I am waiting for more clarity or the stock price movement to entice me to come back in.
Here is a comment on the article you mentioned.
What an enlightening 'battle royale' of contending views on Clean Energy we have witnessed.
I was privileged to hear evidence from knowledgeable people on both bull and bear sides of the case, as well as people with experience in the trucking industry.
My conclusion is that the argument has changed.
We are no longer in the chicken and egg scenario, where the product cannot be supported without the infrastructure, and the infrastructure cannot survive without the product.
The product, the Westport Cummins natural gas engine, whether fueled by LNG, or CNG, is in production. It's out there. Orders are flowing in. The rate of production is yet to be determined by the market, but the innovators have been testing the product in real time for a few years, and are ordering more.
If the product is to be successful, and given the macroeconomics of energy in the USA, it appears the opportunity is there, the adoption of the product, or its subsequent iterations, is likely to experience something similar to the Rogers Bell curve below.
http://bit.ly/LSh33z
A particularly important question for investors, at this point, is whether we are still in the phase of adoption by Innovators, or on the cusp of the Early Adopters.
And of course, timing and execution (and lucky guesses), are always utmost in the success and survival of an individual company. The continuing discussion of the merits of CNG vs LNG has brought to light the tremendous innovation going on in the infrastructure side. Improved fuel tanks and novel solutions to technological problems have and will contribute to the success of the natural gas engine.
As far as Clean Energy goes, they made an early, and expensive bet on LNG with their ANGH. Is it a “niche”, to be obscured by advances in the range of CNG vehicles, and relegated to “small niche”, as some contend ? It seems to me that they have savvy management, with substantial experience with both CNG and LNG. They do a large amount of business in both areas. They have a substantial amount of capital at their disposal, and in my opinion, the stock is cheap enough that I would not sell in a panic at this point.
If CNG wins the day, they will be a strong competitor. If LNG finds a strong base, they will be a big winner.
And finally on the “niche” argument, even a niche, in a large economic sector, can prove quite profitable.
The most exciting, and reassuring point of all the give and take, for me however, is my own conclusion that Westport Innovations, (WPRT), contrary to the gut wrenching price activity of the stock over the last two years, stands on the cusp of something very big. Certainly there are bumps in the road (pun intended) ahead. They seem to have a “moat” around their nascent business, with their 'IP', and their alliances with significant industry players. Without a doubt management must prove their worth over the next few years, and financing may prove critical, but if they get past 2014 without substantial dilution, or financial hemorrhage , investment at these levels may prove quite rewarding.
I am long both WPRT and CLNE.
Charlie
I still need to see what CLNE DOES AFTER THE CC.
Here is an interesting piece of the transcript from yesterday's CC.
Eric Stine - Craig-Hallum Capital Group
But it's fair to say that you – I mean I guess we've seen a sizable order announcement in early January. Is it fair to say whether fourth quarter of fiscal year ‘15 we should see more of those?
Darren Jamison - President & Chief Executive Officer
Yes, you know timing is always difficult, but I would say we’ve got probably close to a dozen larger than 5 megawatt orders that are getting fairly mature, so hopefully if we don’t close some in Q4, we’ll be announcing in Q1. But I think they will start impacting next year’s revenue and definitely the year after that. So I think – and again, once we get to larger sites, that’s going to help other customers take the same plunge and get more comfortable using our technology and those load regimes.
Sometimes, I feel like my investment in CPST is dead money, but I always keep a core position mainly because CPST is steady as she goes. From what I picked up on the CC management was upbeat about the upcoming Q and fiscal 15. Enough to keep my money parked with CPST.
But I have more fun with the volatile stocks I play with regularly.
Till next announcement or CC.
GLTA
Šorry, too many loose ends. The success of ANGH is too many quarters out for me to have any idea of it's success.
I am waiting for some clarity or a better price to enter.
GLTY
I'll be listening in.
First off, I believe that shorting a stock is as valid as being long. There are two ways of viewing any situation.
I do oppose naked short sellers that sell shares that do not in fact exist.
Apart from market makers who need to establish liquidity.
If a person who admittedly claimed to be a short seller gave a reasonable explanation why he is short,I find that information useful because maybe he brought up points that I wasn't fully aware of.
I believe that when new information comes to light then not taking it into account and remaining steadfast long
Is foolish and harmful to your financial well being.
I can always come back in when the stock price is lower of higher for that matter.
CLNE does have issues and they need to clarify their position on the next CC.
I did some due diligence on NGV Investor and was impressed with his bio and specific references from the article I cut and pasted a few days ago.
If you haven't done more in depth research then now's the time.
Finally, one can recoup a loss on a long investment by going short on the same investment,if merited, or one can always buy back lower and recoup the same loss on a rebound.
What I personally do not do is hang on in hope that my original thesis was correct when new information say otherwise. I learned that the hard way in the past. Hope has no place in investing or trading.
Best to you.
Obama made a speech just like he did many times before.
But no plan, no action.
He is an empty suit and is being seen as such more and more every time he rattles on about what he will do for America.
He is to be ignored or better yet- plan for the opposite.
Here' a new SA article that just was published today.
For full disclosure I sold out my position for a substantial loss at 11.09 after the earlier article gave reasonable doubt on CLNE prospects.
Here is a follows.
Clean Energy Fuels' LNG Strategy Is Crumbling
Saturday, February 8, 9:56 AM ET | About: CLNE
NGV Investor
Clean Energy Fuels (CLNE) has for several years now insisted that Liquefied Natural Gas "LNG" is the only real alternative for Class 8 natural gas trucks, as the use of Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) as a trucking fuel has so many shortcomings that it will at best be an option for refuse fleets and other short haul "return-to-base" vehicles.
Upside, a Seeking Alpha contributor, caused quite a stir some days ago with his article titled "Sharks Are Closing-In on Clean Energy Fuels". It was not surprising, albeit disappointing, that most people went off the deep end and accused the author of being a basher and a despicable shorter, when all he had done was write an article filled with links to recent data points that support his belief. No point in shooting the messenger if you disagree with the message. I wish people who found his article (or any other article for that matter) so hard to swallow, would take the time to do their own comprehensive research and produce articles where they set out to prove him wrong, and thereby help us all become more enlightened investors.
I wrote an article in November 2013 with the title "LNG's Future As The Preferred Fuel For High-Mileage Heavy Duty Trucks Seems Doubtful". At lot has happened in the rapidly evolving heavy duty NGV market place since November 2013, and my article today will examine numerous signs that CLNE's LNG strategy is crumbling and also look at a couple of other factors that could end up further undermining CLNE's LNG strategy.
As stated in the disclaimer to this article I do not hold a CLNE position (long or short) or have any affiliation to private individuals or companies that hold such a position. I am also not planning to initiate a CLNE position for the foreseeable future.
To fully appreciate the information in this article I strongly recommend you first watch this CLNE video. Below I will look at CLNE's main assertions from the video. These assertions are important to study as they appear to be the main reasons CLNE chose LNG as the fuel for America's Natural Gas Highway "ANGH" and not CNG.
CLNE: "Fast fill (at least 10 DGE/minute) CNG Stations are Uneconomic to Build and Operate"
CLNE's view has been that fast fill CNG stations for Class 8 trucks would be so expensive to build and operate that very few stations would ever be built.
I am not quite sure what went wrong with CLNE's math or calculator, but they were way off target with this prediction. Hardly a week goes by without announcements from well-funded companies such as Love's, KwikTrip, Questar Fueling, Trillium CNG, OnCue Express, Gain Clean Fuel, ampCNG etc. about more public fast fill CNG stations being added to an already large and rapidly expanding network of stations.
84 public access CNG stations capable of accommodating Class 8 trucks were opened in 2013 and the U.S. now has 414 CNG stations that are available for Class 8 trucks. For a concept that was laughed at and presented as uneconomic by CLNE it sure is spreading very fast.
Not only is the fast fill CNG network expanding rapidly, but CNG is being sold at a discount to LNG of between $1.0 to $0.5/DGE, so the infrastructure that CLNE said would never materialize, is actually being built and is undercutting CLNE's more expensive LNG.
CLNE: "Fast Fill CNG Makes the Range Discount for a Class 8 CNG Truck Unacceptably Large"
In order to understand the above statement we first need to understand the physics that go on when a CNG tank is filled at a fast fill CNG station.
As gas rapidly flows into an empty CNG tank, it will initially experience a drop in temperature due to the "Joule-Thompson effect". However, as the pressure in the tank increases the temperature will also start to rise, and depending on factors such as ambient temperature, pre-cooling of the gas, piping layout from the compressor/storage vessels to the CNG dispenser and valves used on the tanks, the final gas volume achieved during fast fill could be significantly less than the advertised 100% fill level at 3600 psi and 70F.
In addition to the fast fill issue you can't run a CNG tank all the way down to empty as the engine will need a certain amount of remaining pressure in the storage tanks. CLNE's view is that the combined effect of these two issues on average will reduce the effective range of a CNG tank pack for Class 8 trucks by approx. 30% and that a reduction on this scale would be clearly unacceptable to Class 8 truck owners and operators.
Saddle Creek presented at the November 2013 North American NGV conference in Atlanta, GA. Saddle Creek has more than 100 CNG Class 8 trucks in operation, with more on order. By using data from Saddle Creek's presentation, I have compiled a table that shows how various generations of CNG trucks have evolved. Given the rate of improvement, it would be natural to think that such an evolution has taken place over at least 5+ years. In fact, it has taken less than 2 years from Gen 1 to the recent Gen 4, and this is an excellent example of how quickly CNG-related technology has improved for Class 8 trucking applications.
Source: Saddle Creek Presentation at 2013 North American NGV Conference
Agility Fuel Systems, the leading provider of natural gas fuel systems (CNG and LNG) for commercial heavy duty vehicles, also presented at the conference and they commented that technology is now evolving so rapidly that achieving average CNG fast fill volumes of more than 90% full is "just around the corner". Improvements are also being made regarding the amount of CNG that has to be left in the tanks before refueling is necessary, and a 50% reduction in remaining CNG volume before refueling is also on the horizon.
The information from Saddle Creek and Agility Fuel Systems shows that CLNE's claimed 30% average reduction in effective CNG fast fill volume is rapidly narrowing to only a 10-15% average reduction from a full tank as CNG storage and fuel technology improves. However, the biggest take-away when reading experience feedback from companies such as Saddle Creek is that despite having used CNG trucks for a period of time when the reduction in effective CNG tank volume, and consequently effective range, has been as much as 25-30% during fast fill operations, they continue to order even more CNG tractors for over-the-road applications, which is the complete opposite of what CLNE predicted would happen.
Swift Transportation (SWFT) is the largest over-the-road trucking company in the U.S. according to Wikipedia, with more than 16,000 trucks in operation. They recently ordered 200 CNG trucks and the decision was made after having run both CNG and LNG trucks in pilot fleets.
44% Reporting Intent to Purchase a Heavy Duty NGV Truck
Early findings from a fleet market survey conducted in mid-2013 were also presented at the conference. More than 280 fleet managers and owners responded to the survey and 44% reported that they intended to purchase a heavy duty NGV in the next 12 months. Economic advantage and environmental benefit were reported as the most important factors when considering purchasing NGVs, whilst limited refueling stations and the upfront cost were the key factors suppressing NGV purchases.
If we look at "economic advantage", "environmental benefit", "limited refueling stations" and "upfront cost" on an individual basis and compare CNG to LNG as a fuel for Class 8 trucks, then how do they compare?
Economic Advantage
As already mentioned the price at the pump for CNG is on average $1.0 - $0.5/DGE less than LNG, but price at the pump does not tell then entire story as the table below shows (from a presentation made by Love's in November 2013).
(click to enlarge)
Source: Love's Presentation at 2013 North American NGV Conference
Looking at the table you might wonder how Love's, a simple travel stop company, can in any way be qualified to voice an opinion about CNG vs LNG. Well, it just so happens that Love's has a subsidiary called Gemini transport that operates 600+ trucks, and Gemini started researching and testing various natural gas trucks in June 2011. Gemini has now got more than 50 CNG Class 8 trucks either in operation or on order, so it would seem they know their stuff.
Environmental Benefit
LNG and CNG trucks are much better for the environment than diesel trucks. Natural gas trucks emit less CO2 than a diesel truck and also practically eliminate fine particles.
The only difference between CNG and LNG would be the fact that LNG is a "use-it-or-lose-it" fuel. It boils off and will have to be vented after 5-10 days (depends on the LNG fuel tank design) unless it is used.
Limited Refueling Stations
By the end of January 2014 there were 1,324 operational CNG stations in the U.S. according to the Alternative Fuels Data Centre. 664 of these are open to the public and 414 of the public stations can accommodate Class 8 trucks. At the same time there were 87 LNG stations open in the U.S., where 47 were open to the public.
During the past 4 quarters 84 public CNG stations capable of fuelling Class 8 trucks have opened. 19 public access LNG stations have opened in the same period.
Blu LNG announced in late January that they are scaling back their LNG station plans. We also know that most of CLNE's completed LNG stations are closed due to lack of customers, as you can't open an LNG station before you have a certain amount of customers per day or the LNG in the storage tanks will boil off and have to be vented.
Ironically Blu LNG and CLNE having to wait for enough LNG customers to materialize before they can open up stations, could end up making their situation worse. Trucking companies that would like to shift to Class 8 natural gas trucks are likely to find CNG a more attractive option as there are almost 10 times as many public access CNG stations capable of fuelling Class 8 NGV trucks compared to LNG stations, and the divide only keeps growing with Blu LNG and CLNE in a holding pattern.
Upfront Cost
It is common sense that natural gas trucks currently have a higher sticker price than diesel trucks as production numbers simply haven't been great enough to drive down costs.
The Chairman of PACCAR (PCAR) stated that the cost premium for a natural gas heavy duty truck, compared to a diesel truck, is coming down as volumes are increasing and PACCAR's suppliers are becoming more efficient and are dropping their costs for NGV related components.
Over the next 12-24 months it seems plausible that the upfront cost of a natural gas Class 8 truck will drop substantially, but it will still cost more than a diesel truck. With a narrowing upfront cost differential, this should also increase the adoption rate of natural gas trucks, of course assuming the fuel cost differential largely stays the same between diesel and natural gas.
It is hard to predict if the cost will be reduced equally for CNG and LNG trucks, but in the event the current trend continues, with more than 80% of the ISX12 G engines being installed in CNG trucks, it would not seem unreasonable to expect a CNG outfitted natural gas truck gradually becoming less costly than an LNG model.
Summary
CLNE took a very firm view some years ago that LNG is the only viable fuel for Class 8 trucking operations. In fact the video I mentioned earlier in the article has a summary slide with the following exact wording: "Class-8 over-the-road truck needs to be LNG". This is a statement that leaves no room for interpretation.
If CLNE's statement above is indeed a correct description of the prevailing market conditions for Class 8 NGV trucks, then we should by now start to see the vast majority of ISX12 G engines being ordered with an LNG configuration instead of CNG configuration. Unfortunately for CLNE this is where the real world departs from CLNE's plans for the NGV market place, as the vast majority of trucks are currently CNG and not LNG.
OK, so maybe the world has changed quite a bit and technological advances have changed the dynamics since CLNE made the decision a couple of years ago to build 150 LNG stations. This clearly isn't the end of the world, because CLNE is the undisputed leader in the CNG market, so if push comes to show, CLNE can just convert its LNG stations into L/CNG stations + CLNE will still benefit from its dominance in the dedicated CNG station market. Right??
Well, if only the world was so simple. First of all providing CNG from an LNG station is going to cost some dollars in investment, but this is not the main point as I am sure CLNE can afford such investments. The greater issue is that LNG is more expensive to produce than CNG as it first has to be liquefied at a costly facility and then trucked to site. This is why CLNE is charging $0.5 - $1.0/DGE more than a typical non-CLNE CNG station. In order to achieve the same margin for its CNG from an L/CNG station as it would from LNG sales, it will have to charge the same as the LNG price, or preferably slightly more to also cover the L/CNG installation cost. This means that CNG from a CLNE L/CNG station is going to cost at least $0.5 - $1.0/DGE more than a typical dedicated CNG competitor. It is not hard to understand which station is going to attract the most regular traffic.
OK, so maybe the L/CNG option is not going to be terribly profitable, but CLNE's existing CNG network still gives them a great competitive advantage and will ensure that they are fine even if the LNG station development falls flat. At a 30,000ft level such reasoning seems plausible, but if we dig a bit deeper some worrying data points soon appear.
According to the database run by the Alternative Fuels Data Centre, CLNE operates 151 public access CNG stations as of January 2014. With only 664 public access CNG stations in the U.S. it seems that CLNE is sitting pretty in this market with a 23% market share. Well, there is a catch; only 46 of CLNE's CNG stations can provide access to heavy duty trucks according to the database. This means that the market share has gone from being 23% of all public access CNG stations, to becoming approx. 11% of CNG stations that can accommodate Class 8 trucks. To further cloud the picture, almost half of these stations were built more than 10 years ago and have not necessarily been built in locations that are in great demand by Class 8 trucks today. In addition, and as already mentioned above, CLNE is meeting stronger and stronger competition from brand new strategically located CNG stations. 84 CNG stations capable of accommodating Class 8 trucks were opened in 2013. CLNE's tally for 2013 was 2 new CNG stations capable of receiving Class 8 trucks, meaning their dominant position is eroding and a fiercely competitive market place is rapidly emerging.
As far as I can ascertain CLNE came up with their ANGH strategy sometime in 2010 or early 2011 and they were in full implementation mode by the end of 2011. By doing so, CLNE were making a $300-400 million investment in expectation the NGV heavy duty market would develop according to CLNE's internal analysis. The strategic decision to go for LNG instead of CNG for ANGH could clearly not have been based on extensive feedback from over-the-road fleet customers, as NGV heavy duty trucks, the way we know them today, were virtually non-existent in 2010/early 2011.
As outlined in the this article, the NGV industry is continuously flooded with data points which strongly suggest some pretty acute and deep-rooted issues with CLNE's LNG strategy (and CNG strategy for that matter).
Getting ahead of a market and kick-starting a market can be risky business, as the market can evolve differently and make unexpected twists and turns as technologies and customer preferences mature. Unfortunately for CLNE, they are now finding this out first hand.
Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.
Charts are available on SA site.
Keeping my IRA money in, but have been trading out on the pops in my regular account. One never knows when the slip and fall off the mountain side will happen. The angle of ascent on the one year chart is getting too steep for me. But I been there before quite awhile ago when I held a sizable position in TASR when it from (split adjusted) .30 to over 30 dollars in a year. I overlooked the power of "short squeeze".
TASR at the time had an extreme short position. Then again from Jan. 2005 to Oct. 2005 the 30 went to 5.
It appears that the price movement is in anticipation of a decent Quar. report, but most of us have been down that road before.
I am still very bullish (still have half in my IRA), but am inclined to trade this for now even if I miss out on greater gains by holding.
Cappy story is regular progression on execution, growing interest in the product and growing salers. I believe that once they start turning a profit even if the stock price is higher (like over 2) then I would be more comfortable riding this puppy for a multi bagger over a few years.
GLTA
Long term holder,near term trader,based on volume near term massive blowout due in near term 2-3 months.
CPST is going to be in the radar screen real soon.
Can't deny the ramp up in orders coming this year.
I am now inclined to hold and not trade any more.
This is my largest position dollar wise and am comfortable holding.
Suggest you all do the same.
Been with this stock for 5 plus years.
And am now comfortable holding long term.
Look at the big picture.
P.
Wild Bill,
You and I think alike.
I started trading in 1975, generally in spec stocks,always looking for the big score,the ten bagger.
Well time and pain taught me well.
Now on my spec stocks, I hold the core,as long as the company is showing signs of improvement on the metrics that gives one hope of a positive outcome over time- measured in years, but in the intermediate time frame- measured from days to weeks,I will trade the minor moves up or down with an amount of capital that makes the small percentage move worthwhile dollar wise. I then take that money add it to my cash horde and keep on building the bank to diversify or make larger trades on stocks that routinely work for me.
It is always best to invest in an entity that you are very familiar with. You get a intuitive advantage.
Bottom line is my portfolio value is climbing from left to right.
Beats the training years when the opposite was the case.
CPST is not the best pick I have, but at least it's generating some fairly decent trades.
GLTY
Sounds to me we are a bunch of seniors having some fun and drama in our later years.
I've been with this company and stock for many years.
Learned to take profits when available because unfortunately management executions have let me down.
But they do show modest improvements over time with all the important metrics.
It's like the old time serial movies when you are left on the edge of your seat only to find out that the ending will be in the next episode.
I guess I am hooked.
Can only hope that the hero will come out on top when this serial drama plays out.
Any who, I still have enough moola for the next go around.
Have fun, it's the trip that gets me.
Hope we all come out of this movie with great big grins.
Peter
SA posting on LNG,WPRT and CLNE.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1885391-is-cheniere-energy-overheating-again?
Captain
Please tell me what IH stands for.
Thanks,
nypete
NVAX spoke at PiperJaffery 2013HC conference this afternoon.
I read the transcript and the information given was already known ,but with additional color.
Evidently some people were impressed and bought big at the close.
15 million share day up about 500 percent in volume.
No resistance above.
Strong rally like today favors a pullback and consolidation,but if there is still new money coming tomorrow will tell.
I was waiting to buy back at 3.70 level, but decided to wait for tomorrow's action.
What journals gonna do!
LOL Wholeheartedl
agree.
I read message boards basically looking for new ideas.
Anyone who thinks that a post by an unknown has any
effect on a stocks price is deluding themselves.
A hundred or a few thousand share purchase is not going to make any difference
in pricing.
Just go to this link at IHUB.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/Chancellor-Group-Inc-CHAG-427/
I just emailed Investor Relations with an inquiry about whether or not Capstone was bidding on this deal.
As an investor with Capstone Turbine for many years, I would like to bring to your attention this recently announced large scale deal between Flex Energy and DGC ,LLC of a Samara,Russia. http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2013/11/15/flexenergy-distributed-generating-co-ink-400-million-deal/
Could you or management inform me if Capstone was bidding on this project and if not why not.
I would appreciate a reply.
Sincerely,
Peter Rodeschin
I will follow up and post again.
Definitely something to bring up at the next CC.
Replay on website under investor relations,presentations.
8 million cash flow positive---great news.
Europe still a drag.
Website has conference call on replay.
Just hoping and trying to help.
Us old men are still in the game.
When I was young and a gun slinger, I got my lumps and wish in hindsight that I listened to a wise older man.
Had I done so it sure would have made a huge difference.
I wish you the best and much prosperity.
nypete
Get a copy if Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. Keep your enthusiasm in check and be realistic.
If you want to stay in the game and grow your wealth--diversify.
I've been investing for 38 years and have taken huge losses by believing too much in the future of what could be. Be patient. Mr. Market is tough.
GLTU
New SA opinion mostly favorable.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1745792-buy-capstone-ahead-of-earnings
Peter
I believe the company gets no funding from the federal government. Read the following.
Should we even be exporting our gas when it could be used to fuel our trucks and buses? Clean Energy Fuels (NASDAQ: CLNE ) is working to build America's Natural Gas Highway without any real government support. However, just think of how much more quickly we could transform our economy if we didn't have to fight our government but were working with it.
Given all the partisan politics going on in Washington these days, I have my doubts this will ever happen. We'll probably continue to walk aimlessly as the loudest voices with the most votes sway what actually gets done. We just could do so much better if we would work together in a concerted effort to harness our abundant resources to yield the greatest benefit to us all.
The movement toward alternative energy is gaining momentum. One potential opportunity in this field is Clean Energy Fuels, which focuses its natural gas efforts primarily on trucking and fleets. It's poised to make a big impact on an essential industry. Read all about Clean Energy Fuels in our brand-new report. Just click here to get started.
In fact, the Obama administration is anti fossil fuels ( doesn't want to offend the far left and environment movement).
Many individual stocks do not respond to market rallies,some will decline.
There were no catalysts that helped push CPST higher, maybe next week there will be,then CPST will go up in price even if Mr. Market declines. Nature of the beast. I know from your posts you are an investor,like I am.
Time,patience,competent management,good business plan and a little luck is what matters.
GLTA
Seriously,you got to be kidding. TIFU. A CEO responding like that. Too funny.
Sometimes spell check comes up with doozies. I didn't proof read.
I meant greenviroment.
A quick google found this concerning gore environment.
http://www.irw-press.com/en/news_16680.html
Apparently, not worth the legal fees.
CHeck out the best brokers that allow shorting of these types of stock. Google it and do some research. Practically, good luck.
To Inovioinvestor,
Hope all is going good for you. Here is a cut and paste on your reply to mmrich1 post 9302.
We all know the share price will fall and rise, but did you notice I write fall before I wrote rise? Not the other way around as in his post. I was polite in asking my question, and was hoping for a reply from him/her or it.
I do think it rude that you used the word "it" when trying to figure out my gender. So let's play nice.OK.
I am a him (nypete???) and I actually said, " I trade the up and down,but if you prefer the down and up. Like buy on dips and sell strength. Also, although I read it all the time the long side investor and trader hates shorty. Fact is good luck trying to trade a under 5 stock short unless your hooked up with Goldman Saks or some trading houses that allow it. I trade with a major discount brokerage and if a stock like JCP is falling like a rock- an obvious short candidate I can't get filled. Most all low priced OTC,bulletin board and pink sheet stocks can not be shorted by retail investors including INO.
To be balanced I too am an investor in INO and am glad when the stock price gets cheaper, so I can buy a little more. Like I said I am buying INO for my children even my ex wife(she was good to me).
I am sure we will talk again.
GTLA
To Inovioinvestor,
No rudeness felt.
I thought I was positive on INO in my post.
I am accumulating a core that in time may show this to be a blockbuster investment,like getting AAPL in the early 2000's for single digits, but like AAPL it took them 10 plus years for the big kahuna, and AAPL was selling consumer product.
Now I know,as most of you also know, biotech, especially, is a risky investment (but a great trading) vehicle. I takes years for each phase to pass muster then you have the FDA. The percentage of companies that get to actually sell product is,unfortunately, pretty
low.
I am not bashing INO and luckily came across it recently while it is single digits. I find that their product line,technology, partnership (probably not the last)should keep INO in the limelight of investors both old and new to come,propelling the stock price higher.
Like I said I am buying a position for my children. I may be too old to see the mountain top,but along the way I'll trade,taking what Mr. Market gives and takes back.
Best to You.
Peter
Maybe some of you can explain why my messages challenging ALL-IN888 are deleted. Notice post 916 and I believe 913? are gone.
Wonder why?
UNO is a multi marketing sight, and ALL-IN888 is misleading you by claiming it is a political party only.
Google philippines uno networking.
Let's see what happens to this post.
I am building a position for my kids. I am over 60. I have no problem trading the up and down, but the reality is the following cut and paste fro a Roche press release.
Genentech and Roche have spent more than 30 years studying the role of HER2 in cancer, and Perjeta is a result of this research. A companion diagnostic test is used to determine if a person is HER2-positive and whether treatment with Perjeta and Herceptin is appropriate.
That's how it goes with new therapies. Most do not go to commercialization.
I like INO a lot and am not blasting the company.
I just like to be real.
Peter
IVAN may have Tamarak approval in third Q of 13. Here is a link from SA about Ivan.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1653832-carbonate-triangles-athabasca-investment-guide-ivanhoe-energy-edition?source=etrade
Kitco is a decent source for info. on metals. Go to kitco.com.
Buy in increments on weakness and expect more weakness once te price starts to decline. When you have your fill feed it back out. If you believe in the longer term then hold a cre position, as you see if. But always trade price weakness and strength. One thing for sure is price fluctuation,that's where the money is.
Can'tbuy low,can't sell high, but always can sell and buy between. A lot of that is intuitive for nobody an predict price nobody. Most of what you see on this message board is cheer leading and bs.