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I disagree! But your entitled to your opinion as long it's about the stock or company.
Go ProElite!
Your comment does not appear to be true by the very fact Blech continues to see value in that he declares and them and the SEC continues to accept them as a formal declaration which appears to mean they also recognize them, so in turn see value. We know as far as the SEC is concern they are looking at particular type of Filing and we do know that Status Media has Filed and continued to declare it's interest in ProElite, so some Filing is taking place. So your comment about anything being filed on behalf of the company does not appear to be true either. We all hope and expect more in not too distant future.
Go ProElite!
Not sure on your point! The fact of the matter he continues to declare them as PELE Shares and the SEC is not declining his declaration as such, so the fact of the matter stands that the Company is still there and so are the Shares. The company it self would have no such need to declare them. While we would all like to see a little more from the company, there is good information that the company still continues to exist and operate in some form including the fact Blech himself continues to declare his Shares.
Go ProElite!
Strikeforce Confirms January Event Last on Showtime
Written by Tom Ngo
December 20th, 2012
MMA’s worst kept secret was confirmed Thursday evening. Strikeforce’s January 12th event will mark its last on Showtime, which ultimately means the UFC’s little brother will close its doors for the final time once the curtain drops on the show.
“Since 2009, Showtime has been a great partner and we appreciate its support of Strikeforce and our athletes,” said Scott Coker (Pictured). “For our final event, we’ve loaded the card with some outstanding fights. This is going to be a memorable night for the sport of mixed martial arts.”
The writing has been all over the fence for quite some time, with Showtime cancelling back-to-back events in September and November acting as telltale signs. In addition, they allowed bantamweight champ and skyrocketing superstar Ronda Rousey to bounce to the UFC while still under contract.
“We are proud of our association with Scott Coker and the entire Strikeforce team,” said Stephen Espinoza, executive vice president and general manager of Showtime Sports. “From Gina Carano to Ronda Rousey, Fedor Emelianenko to Daniel Cormier, Nick Diaz to Gilbert Melendez, Showtime Sports and Strikeforce have built some of the biggest stars in the sport and have produced many of the most watched and most intriguing fights in the history of MMA.
“We look forward to another night of competitive and explosive Strikeforce fights on Showtime on January 12 in OKC.”
Strikeforce was hoping to end things with a bang, but three title tilts quickly shrunk to one courtesy of the injury bug. Lightweight king Gilbert Melendez and middleweight champ Luke Rockhold were both forced to withdraw from their respective scraps.
Welterweight champion Nate Marquardt will now headline the festivities opposite Tarec Saffiedine.
Chesapeake Energy Arena in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma hosts Strikeforce’s finale on the network.
Showtime will broadcast the main card at 10PM ET/PT.
http://www.5thround.com/134403/strikeforce-confirms-january-event-last-on-showtime-fight-card-finalized/
Don't forget the NHL's Guardian Project along with partner NBC!
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=66928
http://www.guardianproject30.com
http://www.guardianproject30.com/stan_lee.php
Interesting comments from an article about Showtime with mention of ProElite's own Gina Carano and Strikeforce's Ronda Rousey, who was broadcasting on Showtime using the Licensing Agreement provided from ProElite to Strikeforce, which is just about to end with Strikeforce leaving the station and ending its existence as the UFC continues it push on Fox and it's own PPV's.
"The Showtime exec talks about the network's commitment to women's MMA, saying "we were supporting women's MMA when it wasn't cool. We sort of found and helped develop Gina Carano. I think when Gina left to follow other interests no one expected another female star would emerge on Showtime. I'm not saying Gina and Ronda are a dime-a-dozen but there's other talent out there and we'll be looking for it." "Most importantly he teases Showtime's continuing interest in MMA, "Anything we do going forward in the MMA space is going to involve the women's division.""
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/13/3763370/ufc-ronda-rousey-showtime-gina-carano
He is a Shareholder with no control over the company or it's operations. He is a Consultant at best with a performance guarantee's built into his Contracted relationship with the company. If he doesn't raise money and lots of it they can automatically terminate the Contract, if he does not raise enough money they can automatically terminate the Contract. The share counts only really matter when we get to figure how much the company is really worth and what it will be really worth and until then it's numbers on a page. I have said this before and I will say it's again I have seen thousands of company's with hundreds or even thousands of Share worth nothing, and I have seen company's with with millions or billion's of shares worth billions. It's all about value, and it's a range of thing that determine that value including the company, market segment, market conditions and most of all, in my view the product and any other assets the company may have, etc. beyond that it's all about what they are worth and what people think they are or might be worth.
Feller is gone! And has been gone for months what he did or did not do will catch up with him they are true, what I can agree with is something did appear to fall off the rails under his leadership which was why it was changed and they have a new CEO with Rubinstein under control of the company and they appear to be working on a new plan and new direction. It took time to get in the position they did and it will take time to get out, hopefully some time soon. SMDI, I am not really sure and don't really care at this point until I see something directly related to Pro business. Pro really is the only thing I can see they have got going for them and with Jerry in charge I can only hope they will do equally as well as Pro with some solid business moves but again don't care until I see something that has a direct affect on Pro, it's business and/or it's operations. Until then Pro is where it's at!
Yes, definitely alot of unknown's but it's a bit of a wait and see as we don't really have alot of other choices at the moment. All I can say it still has to improvement from where we are to today and whether it's ideal I guess we can all agree it's not but we can all hope based on the sheer potential. To answer your other question I have been through a number of reverse/restructure's and yes again it can be bad depending on how things play out, but depending on what kind of value the company has or can show and what interest can be created it sometimes can reposition the company and the stock for other long term gains and much greater value than it could have ever seen otherwise. Like I said we will all have to wait and see what this is going to look to look like when it happens and until then it really is just a guess at best and most of the time completely off base from any reality. My feeling is what will be will be and I will reserve judgement until I know what that really is, in the meantime we all have the right to hope and I will continue to do so until I feel should do otherwise.
Not sure what part you need a source for as it is all public information, fully available to anyone who "wants" to look.
http://www.cagepotato.com/good-to-know-the-20-most-watched-mma-fights-in-us-history/
As far as your other comments, the company does appear to exist, there is a Web Page, there are Staff including ProElite Head of Fight Operations ProElite MMA, T Jay Thompson and others including ProElite Matchmaker Rich Chow. There are and have been continued Filings of Beneficial Ownership right up to Nov 20 / 2012 and my Brokerage continues to recognize my Shares which continued to be reflected in my Statements from them. There a number of other people and company's who continue to show and declare them in their Statements. I think that makes the company, product and stock pretty real, whether their Trading currently or not.
http://proelite.com/
https://twitter.com/TJMMA
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=8929592-1111-9046&type=sect&TabIndex=2&companyid=79538&ppu=%252fdefault.aspx%253fcompanyid%253d79538
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=8787193
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=8787204
As far as the Trading there are tons and tons and tons and tons of Company's who have the ability to Trade and there tons of people with those Shares who cannot sell them because there are no buyers, and probably at this point could not give them away because nobody wants them for a variety of reasons including no real company and/or product.
So not sure which part you didn't get, I stand by my comments, "Interestingly enough even with the Henderson vs Diaz from the other night which ended up being the Ninth Most Watched MMA Fight of All Time, ProElite still hold 3 out of the top 7 most watched Fights in MMA history with ownership of the 2nd, 4th and 7th spots for most watched fights and keeping in mind the Fight holding the 2nd spot, Kimbo Slice v James Thompson Fight on CBS had 7.281 million viewers which set a Record that it took over 3.5 years to break, and to this day almost 4.5 years later has only been beaten once with the most recent Fight Henderson vs Diaz which only it made into the top 10 at the 9th spot still scored almost 2.9 Million less viewers than Pro did years ago.
ProElite is still not doing bad for a Promotion that hasn't been busy in a while as they restructure and still says alot about the potential of the Promotion and what it could do again once they get rolling."
Go ProElite!
Interestingly enough even with the Henderson vs Diaz from the other night which ended up being the Ninth Most Watched MMA Fight of All Time, ProElite still hold 3 out of the top 7 most watched Fights in MMA history with ownership of the 2nd, 4th and 7th spots for most watched fights and keeping in mind the Fight holding the 2nd spot, Kimbo Slice v James Thompson Fight on CBS had 7.281 million viewers which set a Record that it took over 3.5 years to break, and to this day almost 4.5 years later has only been beaten once with the most recent Fight Henderson vs Diaz which only it made into the top 10 at the 9th spot still scored almost 2.9 Million less viewers than Pro did years ago.
ProElite is still not doing bad for a Promotion that hasn't been busy in a while as they restructure and still says alot about the potential of the Promotion and what it could do again once they get rolling.
Go ProElite!
MusclePharm: An Overlooked Value Investment In The Booming Supplement Industry
Despite a general consensus that business activity in the global economy has been stagnant recently, there are particular industries that are bucking that trend with rapid expansion. Healthcare, in particular, has shown very strong resistance to the recent economic downturn. I've covered numerous areas of the pharmaceutical industry that have seen (or will see) enormous expansion over the next few years, but have yet to really explore the growth we've seen in the nutraceutical and nutritional supplement sector in coming years.
As a direct response to a parabolic rise in obesity rates in the United States and most other Western nations, health products have seen skyrocketing sales figures as more and more emphasis is being placed on fitness and well-being. Companies that sell fitness supplements have benefitted tremendously.
GNC Holdings (GNC) was one of them, and has seen a doubling of its stock price since its IPO in April of 2011. Since inception, GNC stock has outperformed both the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average by 94%. Another notable example is Vitamin Shoppe Inc. (VSI) which saw roughly 230% appreciation since its IPO in November of 2009. Since inception, VSI outperformed both the S&P 500 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average by 196%.
Recent IPOs of highly recognized companies (in other industries) have fallen flat on their face due to Wall Street's inability to gauge a company's worth. Perhaps the most high-profile example was the Facebook (FB) IPO, which was priced on a bunch of intangibles and funny numbers derived from its large subscriber base. Recall that Facebook became a NASDAQ stock on May 17, 2012 at an initial price of $38/share, but has fallen about 30% since due to a lack of actual financial data that justifies the company's market capitalization (which now hovers just under $60 billion.)
The neutraceutical/supplement industry, on the other hand, has shown very steady top-line growth that could directly boost the value of the companies in it. This is basically why the market has been so bullish on GNC and VSI post-IPO, and will continue to do so as long as the growth remains intact.
A big, upcoming name in the industry is MusclePharm Corporation (MSLPD.OB). MusclePharm has not seen as much attention due to the young age of the company (it was started in 2008) and the company's shady financial history. There is also the fact that company shares are not available on either of the two major US stock exchanges (the New York Stock Exchange or the NASDAQ), which makes MusclePharm equity quite illiquid and hard to discover right now. Nonetheless, the company has a story that could be interesting to investors who are looking for the next big play in healthcare products.
MusclePharm's history dates back to 2006, when the original founder Cory Gregory sold his services as a fitness trainer in Nevada. His company Tone in Twenty offered muscle-regenerative isometric techniques, which are increasingly popular amongst professional athletes. MusclePharm CEO Brad Pyatt was then coming out of his four-year tenure in the National Football League (which started with the Indianapolis Colts in 2003). His years in the world of professional sports taught Brad a lot about supplements and the existence of inferior products on the market, which birthed the idea that a new supplement company could be viable competition for the big brands. It was only a matter of time after Brad Pyatt met entrepreneur Cory Gregory that the business concept would be made into reality.
As mentioned earlier on, MusclePharm began its operations in 2008 out of Brad Pyatt's garage. Despite a modest $300,000 pool of startup capital, MusclePharm's CEO Brad Pyatt and Cory Gregory, managed sales revenue of $80,000 by the end of the year. Their success early in the year led an IPO, which raised additional capital used to fuel the massive top-line growth that MusclePharm would see over the next few years through a beefed-up marketing budget.
By 2011, MusclePharm reported $17 million in sales revenue. This equates to a 2,125% increase in revenue over three years, or an annually compounded growth rate of 597% top-line growth.
As one might expect, this hyperbolic growth rate came at a big cost. The supplement business is virtually a carbon copy of the athletic apparel business, where branding is the single most important factor for the success of any company. Realizing the obvious importance for MusclePharm to develop as a brand, the company spent generously on its "beefed-up" marketing budget throughout the first few years of operation.
Aggregated throughout the first few years of operation, you can see that MusclePharm spent about $10 million to launch and to build its brand presence. This was close to the same amount of money that MusclePharm raised from its IPO in the first few years, and debt had to be issued.
The major problem was that MusclePharm's debt financing was structured very poorly by its former CFO. This resulted in the issuance of an enormous pool of convertible notes that induced egregious dilution of the stock, and made the ticker extraordinarily risky - even for investors who buy shares through uncentralized markets. The company began to undergo a convertible debt retirement program in January 2012, which repurchased $5.5 million worth of toxic derivatives with $3 million in cash derived from sales revenue and with 55 million shares of MSLPD by the end of Q1 2012.
This has made MusclePharm much more accessible to both institutional investors attempting to mitigate the risk in their portfolios, as well as the individual investors who are less knowledgeable about debt structuring and the potentially dilutive effects of financial derivatives.
Viewing the most recently released version of the company's balance sheet (from their SEC 10-Q filing released on November 13, 2012) shows that MusclePharm's financial position as of September 30, 2012 was improved relative to September 30, 2011. It may seem dangerous that company only holds $634,000 in cash (even less than 2011, when the company held $660 million), but note that there is an enormous build-up of over $4 million in accounts receivable which should be translated into eventual cash flow as we head into 2013. There was also an apparent investment in company property and equipment, which paves the way for MusclePharm to create a self-sufficient supply chain for their product in future years.
The most important (and beneficial) change to the company's balance sheet was the reduction of derivative liabilities from over $7 million to a negligible sum of $25,000 as of the end of Q3 2012. As mentioned earlier, these derivatives were causing major uncertainty amongst investors due to their complicated nature and association with high risk.
One thing that has plagued MusclePharm's business model has been its reliance on third party manufacturers, which has crushed the company's profit margins, hence preventing the company from posting earnings growth in league with revenue growth. This problem also helps explain why the company is consistently low on cash, and has not seen all that much interest from Wall Street's equity analysts.
MusclePharm's EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) for Q3 was $4.07 million. Out of total net sales of $18.56 million for Q3 2012, we calculated that COGS (cost of goods sold) is about 78%. This makes profit margins only 22%, which is an extremely low figure for any business. When you subtract SG&A (or sales, general & administrative) expense from EBITDA you get negative earnings. For MusclePharm in Q3, $7.88 million worth of SG&A expense brought the company negative operational income of $3.8 million. Note that the final losses were higher due to roughly $2 million in additional expenses for the quarter related to the removal of derivative liabilities. Since that was a one-time expense, it can be ignored from a long-term perspective.
If you compare MusclePharm to a somewhat similar name like GNC, you'll note that there is a significant gap in the two companies' profitability relative to revenue. Specifically using their Q3 2012 results, you can calculate that GNC had COGS of 62% and gross margins of 38%. MusclePharm, eager to improve on this front, is looking to expand its margins by about 10% through in-house manufacturing and distribution of its supplements. The exact timeframe has yet to be revealed by company management, although this does develop the notion that MusclePharm is not trapped in an unprofitable distribution model forever.
What's also important to realize about MusclePharm is that it's a very young company that has already proven its competitive edge in the supplement industry through its huge sales growth. This translated into strong historic top-line growth for the company, with continued expectations of this trend. Also vital to its success is its unique management team.
CEO Brad Pyatt is clearly different than GNC's corporate-flavored CEO Joseph Fortunato, since Mr. Pyatt has firsthand experience with the products he now sells and has a profile that should make MusclePharm more accessible to professional athletes as a sponsor. It's not just potential in football either. For instance, note that MusclePharm is the official sponsor of the increasingly popular UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship.) Also worth noting is MusclePharm's new and highly regarded CFO Gary Davis, who led the fitness website BodyBuilding.com into #1 status between 2006 and 2010. It seems quite certain that Mr. Davis will become integral to MusclePharm's competitive strategy going forward.
Investors who are either long or considering MusclePharm as we head into a new fiscal year should be looking for a continuation of the company's success as measured by top-line growth, and also development on the company's plans to manufacture and distribute its own product. The company's COGS is not so great, but can certainly be improved in coming quarters.
This is essential to the company's valuation down the line, of course, since earnings are supposed to be the most fundamental driver of stock prices anyway. There are few exceptions out there when it comes to retailers, but some names like Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN) manage to sell the top-line growth story alone quite well.
If MusclePharm can continue its success on the top-line while fixing its cost structure, shareholders could see some huge gains when investors realize that there is a lot of momentum (and money) being created in the supplement industry.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1059481-musclepharm-an-overlooked-value-investment-in-the-booming-supplement-industry
CBS Sports Courage in Sports - Sara McMann - Olympic Silver Medalist and MMA fighter
McMann was for sure. I am hoping she does as well but am still hoping to see her back in ProElite!
The slow, miserable death of Strikeforce
Posted on November 27, 2012, 12:41 AM by Andreas Hale
Watching Strikeforce collapse to its final breath is certainly a depressing thing to witness. It's demise accelerated by Zuffa, LLC's purchase of the company as we slowly saw the writing being sprawled out on the wall. But, damn, this has really been painful.
Once upon a time, Strikeforce was an dependable alternative to the UFC. It's roster was strong enough to stand on its own as it helped establish names like Nick Diaz, Alistair Overeem, Gilbert Melendez, Gegard Mousasi, Luke Rockhold, Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal and Daniel Cormier. Their biggest coup came in the form of the tantalizing Russian dish that Dana White couldn't sign, Fedor Emelianenko. But that experiment failed once Fabricio Werdum caught the indestructable Fedor in a triangle. What Strikeforce perhaps stumbled upon was the rise of Women's MMA thanks to the stunning Gina Carano, the devastating Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos, the gutsy Miesha Tate and the seemingly unbeatable Ronda Rousey.
Strikeforce had something for everyone and made great strides when it hit network television before the UFC. Yup, it was good times watching Strikeforce. It's just too bad that it is coming to such a miserable ending.
Ever since the Fedor vs. Henderson fight in July of 2011, Strikeforce has struggled with attendance and it has appeared that it became the red headed stepchild once Zuffa made the purchase. Even though UFC President Dana White wanted to be more hands-on with the product, Showtime's new boss Stephen Espinoza decided that Strikeforce didn't need White's personal touch.
And then, slowly, the wheels came off.
Once the UFC started snagging Strikeforce fighters, most MMA pundits figured that the end was near. Those that were left on the roster, like middleweight champion Luke Rockhold, were quite vocal about wanting to jump ship to the UFC. Meanwhile, Strikeforce struggled to get attention. There were no great strides in building stars for a mainstream audience but few managed to break through including Ronda Rousey. Once Dana White began warming up to the idea of Women's MMA, we all knew it was a wrap.
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker constantly tried to save face in front of the press, but he, too, knew the end was near. Even before the September 29 card was cancelled, the lightweight title fight between Gilbert Melendez and Pat Healy was groan inducing. It's not like any of us were really upset when Melendez' knee injury caused the card to get cancelled. But then when it was announced that Daniel Cormier and Frank Mir were going to face each other on November 3, we had something to be excited about. But dammit to hell if the organization wasn't cursed and infected with the nasty injury bug that has ransacked the UFC. Unfortunately for Strikeforce, their roster wasn't deep enough to endure injuries and once Mir and Rockhold went down, there was no reason to even have a show. Once again, Strikeforce saw an event cancelled.
People like myself shouted at the television "Just die already!" but, for some reason, the crippled organization continued to press on as they scheduled their "final" event for January 12, 2013 titled "Champions." Boy, that was an ill-fated title from the jump. There would be no Ronda Rousey but Gilbert Melendez, Luke Rockhold and Daniel Cormier were all scheduled to fight. Cormier was set to fight a relative nobody but Rockhold would face the "undefeated" Lorenz Larkin ("undefeated" with the exception of the obliteration turned no-contest at the hands of King Mo and his failed drug test) and Melendez was rescheduled to face Pat Healy. Seemed like a stacked card until the "champions" started dropping like flies. Melendez first and Rockhold second. To make matters worse, Rockhold said that he never signed up for the fight and was recovering from an injury. Oh, that's nice. Well, we still have Nate Marquardt as a champion.
Sigh.
Would anybody be surprised if Cormier or Marquardt ended up injured and off the card? Probably not.
The reality is that witnessing the three legged dog limp to the finish line isn't the last image that we'd like to see of Strikeforce. It would have been cool to see all of the past Strikeforce fighters on one card. You know, like a Nick Diaz vs. Nate Marquardt showdown and perhaps Alistair Overeem vs. Cormier. Jake Shields and Luke Rockhold would be fun, just like how a Dan Henderson and Gegard Mousasi fight would be interesting.
That's the last image of Strikeforce that I would have liked to see. This one? Not so much.
Part of me wants to just see this last show taken out to the woodshed Old Yeller style and put out of its misery. Is that so wrong?
http://www.lowkickmma.com/Strikeforce/the_slow_miserable_death_of_strikeforce
This is interesting for sure and a very very good sign!
Go ProElite!
Great stuff. We are all looking forward to hearing more.
Go ProElite!
Strikeforce to close shop after stacked January event
By Chris Hall on Nov 8, 9:26p
As we already told you, celebrity gossip site TMZ dropped to big announcements on the MMA world Thursday night. Obviously, the first was that WMMA superstar Ronda Rousey will become the first female fighter to compete under the UFC banner. Secondly they reported that the Strikeforce event scheduled for January will be the final card for the promotion.
Ariel Helwani from MMA Fighting has since confirmed both reports. With their final event looming, Strikeforce has pulled out all the stops to go out with a bang. In a press release sent out tonight, the California-based promotion announced that the main card will have 3 championship fights and open with a bout featuring Heavyweight Grand Prix champion Daniel Cormier.
Here's how the card looks so far:
Gilbert Melendez vs. Pat Healy
Luke Rockhold vs. Lorenz Larkin
Nate Marquardt vs. Tarec Saffiedine
Daniel Cormier vs. Dion Staring
Strikeforce's last breath will fall on January 12, 2013. The event will take place Chesapeake Energy Arena in Oklahoma City, OK. Helwani also reported that more information will be released early next week. Bloody Elbow will keep you posted as we learn more about the situation.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/11/8/3620686/strikeforce-to-close-shop-after-stacked-january-event/in/3385143
Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani The question is, which promotion lands on Showtime? An existing one or a new one? I don't think BFC goes there, so that's the biggie.
6:19 PM - 8 Nov 12
Jason Medina Jason Medina ?@J_sin575 @arielhelwani what about proElite
7:36 PM - 8 Nov 12
https://twitter.com/J_sin575
Cesar Gracie @CesarGracieBJJ I'm hearing January marks the end of Strikeforce. We had some great fights there
I'm hearing January marks the end of Strikeforce. We had some great fights there
— Cesar Gracie (@CesarGracieBJJ) November 9, 2012
Agree all the way and hopefully with POW! Leading the charge!
We know one thing Stan has been here and with the only difference being he is far more experienced and by far more savvy as a business leader.
His creative ability is without question, the man is a complete visionary with few real equals in any Industry.
He almost single handedly took an entire Industry and brought it to the next Level turning his previous company Marvel into a global Super Power with its hands in Movies, Video Games, Merchandising and of course Comic Books.
So we know if he did it once, there is no reason to believe he cannot do it again and POW! will be that next company. imo.
Go POW!
It definitely looks like something is happening! They have been pretty quiet for a while at this point which is not a bad thing. I want to assume they are planning and looking to make their next moves at a minimum sure footed and also hopefully reasonably significant. Let's all hope so and that this includes their Premier interest in ProElite as the real and only play.
Go ProElite!
Agreed. Personally one thought comes to mind, when it does happen, which I believe it will, Stan did not name the company POW! for nothing and when it does happen it is going to be huge! IMO.
http://vimeo.com/49568797
I still feel POW! is an any day thing that could change the entire world for the company and everything associated with it.
Any one of these Projects on the go has the immediate potential to blow the doors off the company with the entire world taking notice and moving everything into fast forward which would also include a major jump in the value of company and the Stock. In my opinion this will all happen sooner rather than latter.
Go POW!
Can you also point to the Reference to the case against him in this regard ?
And can you please show the relevance that has directly to the company ?
And I would also ask to please state how this has any relationship to the company and/or it's business whatsoever ?
Again all of it has nothing to do with the company itself! Period!
Feel free to Quote me! lol!!!!
Please provide one piece of evidence that Ficksman had any involvement in the actual Scam ?
I have see nothing that supports your claims whatsoever.
I'm having trouble finding what your suggesting in the article you have provided, can you please point to it ?
Can you also point to the Reference to the case against him in this regard ?
And can you please show the relevance that has directly to the company ?
Please point to the exact location of the information your suggesting.
And I would also ask to please state how this has any relationship to the company and/or it's business whatsoever ?
Again all of it has nothing to do with the company itself! Period!
Feel free to Quote me! lol!!!!
I'm having trouble finding that in the article you have provided, can you please point to it ?
Can you also point to the Reference to the case against him in this regard ?
And can you please show the relevance that has directly to the company ?
Please point to the exact location of the information your suggesting.
And I would also ask to please state how this has any relationship to the company and/or it's business whatsoever ?
Again all of it has nothing to do with the company itself! Period!
Feel free to Quote me! lol!!!!
Those activities as you say it, have again nothing to do with company itself! Period!
This is very along standing case that has been many years, please point to one single reference anywhere that the company has anything do with any of it ?
Additionally YOU say Ficksman has something to with these activities, again even if it was true which I at this point have no one reason to believe, Please point to one single Reference where it states or shows his involvement ?
And I would also ask to please state how this has any relationship to the company or it's business whatsoever ?