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No worries, sometimes we can all get carried away , and it really has effected my " risk" tolerance just keep MLER on your radar when and if it goes many new millionaires can pop into being, this would be a whole NEW industry with only one place to buy,
AND Dr Moller just hired a MIT grad who has been dreaming of working on the skycar for years (his words) he started work Monday as the project manager, so there is some new hot blood to go with the 80 gray years of wisdom
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Thanks, but after dodging IEDS in Iraq for a year every thing else seen kind. Of low risk ..I may have a tainted judgement
BUT, I do know what u are talking about. Dr. Moller seems to have a New drive to get the Nurera done and to market which will remove the funding question. What do u think the market for the FRIST flying ATV would be? ( plus the trailers he will need to sell)
ALIFE wants FM motors for its scooter line and has already finished part one of the business plan getting that done
Stay tuned and have a plan, ether of those two things happen ( and it would seem one will before the end of the year) and the wild ride to be re listed begins like a rocket, and as it looks more and more like this flight will happen the stock will reflect. So, just sell after the first1000% more you will be kicking your self, this story really is JUST starting
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Ok seriously, this is a changing story. Dr Moller has had to make all his parts from scratch no easy or cheap task (The gear box of the Osprey tilt up wing cost a billon + to make) Moller has be doing this basically in his garage since the 60s he has been working on these things.
AND from what is NOW on the table is a flight of the Neuera in the next 90 ish days
Stick around, if it happens as "planned" you Miss the first 1000% move BUT that will still be the ground floor will be plenty of 1000s to go
If not you can pass your time taunting me with every time they miss a dead line
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Like I said that's for stopping by to warn all us boobs who can't read a Q10. Pretty sure I won't convince you on my stock out look as I don't care where a stock has been, only where it is going.
So. Do you know anything about ALIFE ? Betting not
Oh and u left out FM just handed over $300,000
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Post from the Test Pilot Ed De Reyes who will fly the crafts, on how he felt about the Doc’s timeline in the newsletter. He responded:
"We're probably closer to 90 to 100 days before the M200X (Neuera) flies - but what Dr. Moller stated in the newsletter about the progress made on the engines and airframe are correct - he's done a lot of work in anticipation of flying the M200X. I'm currently working on the FAA paperwork for an experimental aircraft certificate for the aircraft. We should have that paperwork in place about 30 days before the first flight. The first flight, of course will be on a tether and manned. Following some stability and control (S&C) tests, we will proceed to the untethered tests. Dr. Moller and Zack Rabin have put a lot of time into the S&C system, so I'm hoping she'll behave well on the untethered flight. As it stands, Dr. Moller wants to fly the first tethered flight, and I'll take over from there. Of course, the insurance may not allow him to fly at all...but we’ll have to see about that. "
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Yup and I will be yukking it up ALL the way to the bank, BUT they thanks for stopping by and warning us all
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So u R in ...
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What about how they are working on the Neuera to get it airborne first? How about all u said about the skycar BUT with the Neuera instead?
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So once we get funding your all in? As in when FM's A reg is offered?
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News letter out
Moller International/Freedom Motors
June 2015 Newsletter
To: All Newsletter Subscribers
From: Paul S. Moller
Re: Update
Neuera 200
As noted in the May newsletter, we are actively upgrading the Neuera 200 with the latest in safety features together with creating production tooling for some of its parts.
The following are recent accomplishments:
Tooling is being produced to allow the production of injection molded fan blades. The cost of the blades will reduce from $500 per blade to $20 per blade in quantities of a few hundred and to $15 per blade in orders of a few thousand.
Our original undercarriage was fixed, which would have been problematic in a hard landing. We have replaced it with a high energy absorption undercarriage.
The body was reconditioned and repainted in a more appropriate color.
Dual fuel tanks are installed along with dual fuel pumps, where each has the capacity to handle all eight engines.
We have received the FAA approved tail number (N202MX) for our present Neuera 200.
The initial custom built starter motors were designed to fit in a very small available space. They were expensive ($750 each) and required compression release to function. The overall installation has been revised sufficiently to allow an off the shelf starter ($35 in volume) that is strong enough to start a twin rotor engine without a compression release.
The most important change is the use of one flight control system assigned to each engine. This is economically possible now that the cost of these computerized stability systems have reduced to less than $500 each from $15,000 not very long ago. Under this arrangement if a computer fails (hardware or software) the engine goes to full speed, which does not create a problem because adjacent engines automatically reduce their power accordingly. We can also tolerate a complete engine failure.
We are installing height holding, position holding and direction holding as part of the overall FCS with an automatic default mode should any of these fail.
Finally, under the FAA’s guidelines we are adding a few changes to our fuel and ignition systems. These upgrades on the Neuera 200 are being done concurrently with our work under contract to integrate our Rotapower engine into various products which can change our priorities. Since some of our employees work for both MI and FM, it is difficult to provide a completion date. I believe it will be between 60 and 90 days.
Freedom Motors Update
The EB5 funding program is progressing well according to our manager Curtis Poling. As an US government approved funding program, the US paperwork has been extensive but completed. All activity is now centered in China and Korea as their competing offers are being evaluated.
Regarding the Reg A filing, we have had another wrinkle develop and are in the process of resolving it. Suffice to say that the present path to Reg A approval is more complicated than we were led to believe by either attorney we have used. It seems that both our original attorney and our recent attorney belatedly discovered this. The government apparently also realized this and as of mid-June, the Reg A regulations are being simplified under a new Reg A plus approval process.
I deeply apologize for the previous delays where our directors and I learned two expensive lessons when undertaking an evolving form of a security offering. Do not pay for legal work upfront and most importantly do not engage an attorney in a one man law firm for something as complicated as a securities offering despite previous good experiences working with them on similar or other matters. Both attorneys were experienced in securities but it sometimes requires a team effort to deal with all the issues.
An example of the need for a team effort is best shown through our experience with Downey Brand, a well-established law firm which now handles all of our legal work. Over the past year we have worked with six of their attorneys with different specialties on various matters including recent help on the Reg A plus offering. I expect to be able to provide a status report on our Reg A plus status within the next two weeks. The recent delay made it necessary to update the financials, although, the form 1A is otherwise complete. The remaining document that needs to be revised under the Reg A plus and be submitted is the offering memorandum.
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The news letter should be out VERY soon
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$ 300,000 closer to the funding needed
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Ether way, when this unicorn dances off the pages, this will have been a moot point, I will be glad to have u pile in for a huge win, since this is on your radar and when funding its you will make your fortune like the rest of us
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Does not look like a fable to me, looks like a prototype that needs more funding
Does not look lie
You left out the part about how in invented a whole "aircraft" FROM SCRACH, by himself, no big aerospace corps backing him, the gear box along in the Osprey air craft was like a 1.2 Billion to develop and get "right" ... Plus he is an inventor, not a Businessman which has hurt him over the years
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You need to fully understand the story here, one or two things of action take place motors being made or the FM offering goes as planned, 8.50 is ONLY the first 9 months... This will be a new billion dollar industry
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There was no pump, only those who know the stock waiting on the good news of FM was why it went up
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http://alife-air.com/ they are more active on Facebook, they don't really need to up date this home page until they are taking orders for scooters, watch the clip with the CEO
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Wrong and right, right they have used up all cash supplied, wrong in a VERY rich man in Singapore wants Freedom motors to be used in his new line of scooters. His business plan said " build a service complex first, then build the scooters. He has finished the complex, he are all just waiting on the scooters
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TRUTH! He is working to get the Neuera flying first since that takes much less funding and is less complicated
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PUMP? I think not, you say it is "pump & dump, some place some where a pumper is hard at work? Could u provide the home of the vaunted pumper I don't see him here, maybe the Yahoo boards?
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http://us8.campaign-archive1.com/?u=3e6447e586f1c78d840034184&id=830e2de380
See if this works ( I am on my phone and can't try it )
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The interview is what I am happy about. Information given in a public area by him holds weight Unfortunately I see them as one more bunch nut jobs who also believe in UFOs etc BUT it seems those are the only "news" outlets who will give A guy making a flying car time,
I first heard about Dr Moller while working late nights in University, it pasted the time and was amusing to hear of alien abdication So, take it for what it is worth
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Dr Moller interview on Grimerica pod cast (26May 1930pm) says that production of the engines will start towards the end of the year.
Freedom Motor REG A within 90 days...according to Paul.
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Let's see if Dr Moller learned his lesson, he said stock price of $8.50 in 8 months, if ALIFE finishes the second phase of it business plan 8.50 is low.
You are right Dr Moller is an engineer, not a businessman. He has lacked funding and has not (IMHO) focused on getting a product to market, even if it needed changes later. He has had funding deals fall apart, but he has now stated that Neuera is easiest to finish and market.share price will follow as it will be first air ATV, showing the world proof of concept Risk= Reward
Is the Dr a nut and this thing never flys, or does it blast us into the next industrial revolution making many new millionaires?
Roll the dice, and take your chances I am betting. The horse will run this time
RW
Once the Freedom motor offering is done a few mill will be coming MLERs way because FM owes it, once ALIFE starts to produce scooters the stream of income should cover the rest is the development costs to get the crafts airborne
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At least u are doing your own researcher, .. 8.50 a share... This is a NEW market like the first apple, smart phone under armor key Dr Moller owns the PATs for all this stuff, no one can just enter the market, ALIFE wants the Freedom motors for its scooters (Dr Moller the major shareholder for both companies) see the company logo in a triangle = freedom motors is a triangle
How to achieve .. Seem Dr Moller has finally seen the light on if he does not sell something, he will never get the Skycar up, enter Neuera which are ready to produce
Buys of stock LOL if worked at hedge fund would u want to go into your bosses office and tell him u wanted to invest Ina "flying car company"? U would be on the street that afternoon, no he has got to show it flys first, then $8.50 share is too low a price IMHO
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Your right, in a way, if finding was not coming it would be VERY hard to get a craft to market, ALIFE wants Freedom motors for its scooters (Singapore) which = a LOT of funding but read the links your self, I don't want to dumped on a "pumper" category
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Plus the shares at this point seem to be strongly held
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An offering on Freedom motors announcement is about due = millions of funding for Mler
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Dr. Moller said on a radio interview, well read my last 10 posts, ...$8.50 in 8 months
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ALIFE & Freedom motors will find the aircraft
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Jump back in waters fine!!
Risk = Reward, how right you are, funding for a flying car??? HAHAHAHA.. Yea funding has been a problem ALIFE has This motor as the foundation to its whole product line (see other posts for info on thme I am not reposting)
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It was a "safety" tether required my the insurance company, had nothing to do with flight, re watch it... Plus this were the small motors it now has larger ones
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Hope someone is getting in on this climb !
Spike alert!!
Last night on “Youtoo America” Dr. Moller said He “expects the stock to go to $8.50 in the next 8 months “ Which is where it IOP
take it for what it is, go back and listen if you can. He of all people should know what is going on at Moller and is smarted enough to know he can’t make a statement like that and NOT have the stock do something amazing (Unless a company backs out of a deal etc) BUT that is what the stock should do at THIS point, all things being equal!
Get some shares and HANG ON!
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Flawlessly engineered - NASA
http://www.examiner.com/article/moller-sky-car-flawlessly-engineered-says-nasa
Highway in the sky slowly getting built
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32653269
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