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Agreed. But, my thought are that if your pps is reflecting reality, you can get higher valuation, and therefore, better dialing terms to support the commercialization and development programs. While we know that we have partnered with 3 institutional investors to support these efforts, we could have/can accelerate these programs.
I do agree that with CELZ it is a matter of ‘when’ and definitely ‘not if’.
Also, I am wondering ‘who’ will evaluate and adjust the price. Just FYI - I am a beginner and all my questions are from a learning perspective.
Thanks
And.....once again, it looks like they are shaking the tree to get the stop-losses by dropping the price by a little over 10%.
People need to learn not to use stop-losses.
In these types of scenarios, why wouldn’t the company (for example CELZ) take action to stop this? Wouldn’t it be in the company’s best interest if the pps reflected reality?
In any case, I’m long and Strong with CELZ.
I’m thinking they got the 5%-10% stop losses by dropping the price from 0.018 to 0.016
Fully agree! The only thought I have is that we (CMTH) will need to sell off the ED to support the Amnio, spine, Fem, etc.,
Either way, we are on the road to greatness.......if only we have some patience.
So, I thank all of you, once again, and ask to answer a simple question “Do you have patience?”
I am lucky, I am here, and I will be a multi millionaire (notice the multi) soon enough.
Ciao!
Thank you all, for your replies. I truly believe that this THE stock that will carry me to my dreams!
I am very careful with my hard earned money! I don’t buy starbucks’ coffee at $4 or $5. I drink coffee at home- which costs around $0.10 a cup. I put my money where I think it is going to be of best interest for my loved ones. I work in the PHARMA world (wink) and know the value of this technology.
I urge people to ask a single question and be truthful to your selves.
“Do you have patience”?
The answer will tell you your personality, intentions, character and your future ... for generations to come.
See you all in Vegas ..... sooner than most of us think.
Long and Strong. CELZ
As someone else posted last week, I think it is the MM's just going back and forth between each other - creating an illusion of trades and low pps to scare/shake the shares from the weak. JMHO also.
Nobody is getting my shares - not even a single share.
CELZ - Long and Strong!
Agreed! I like working too. So, though I will retire, I will continue working on my terms - may be part-time or consult - but take more time to travel and see the world, spend time with family, volunteer, etc. CELZ is going to make my dreams come true - very soon.
I was able to add and lock-up over 500k shares between yesterday and today (pps range from 0.02 this morning to 0.021 yesterday, and in between).
Though the % of the shares absorbed by a 'whale' or an 'Institutional Investor' may be significantly higher than an individual investor, I believe there are a few of us individuals/longs, like me, who are also accumulating.
As NSX and other longs have pointed out many times, this is the company that will bring me an early retirement (sooner than even I think). I hope more people can see that and have the patience to wait till mid-next year.
CELZ - Long and Strong!
Thank you Haz. Now, if each unit/kit gets sold for $5,000 (this may be low, I believe) and consider 250k procedures, we are looking at $1.25B revenues, on an on going basis, not including all the additional procedures we have to do to 'catch-up with existing cases. Add number of cases in EU, Asia,etc.,.... we are looking at a HUGE number as we move into 2019. Any buy out option would/should include this type of valuation. Can someone more knowledgeable than me do the number with more details? Any thoughts?
Thanks
Agreed! We should be looking forward to post approval at this point. Any idea on the size of the US Market and EU Market? That is what will drive the value of the product, company and pps. $10/share will be cheap. So, I'm holding till after the revenues reflect the market size and/or Merger/Acquisition.
We are not halted. I just bought 1MM shares, which is filled and showing.
COHO Strong and Long!
I just slapped the ask of 35k shares at 0.021. 30k shares got filled below ask and 5k at 0.021 Why?
CELZ - Long and Strong
Thought the 3.888MM share order got filled.
Thanks and understood. I am with you. I wish I had a lot of money to help the pps.
Still Long & Strong. All my shares are locked at $2.00 - max allowed by Fidelity.
Go CELZ!!
Looking at the L2, there seems to be only 150k shares to get to 0.03. Does that make sense?
Ha! Ha! I'm with you.
Long and Strong LLBO
Yep! Same thing happened to me when I click on the lbti.com link after a google search for lbti'. When I search for LLBO on google, lbti.com is not in the search results - at least on the first page.
Great News yesterday! Eagerly waiting for the 8k with details and the next set of quarterly reports. The question I have is "Can Institutional Investors stop the MM games"? Thanks in advance for your insights and responses.
CELZ - Long and Strong!
May be it is the optimist in me speaking, but the management is acting like a Blue Chip Co. - news only when there is something to report - no fluff. Peer review takes months.
So, those of us who are longs look at this as an investment vs.....
I am counting on a few things that are happening:
Debts being paid off.
Increasing revenues through more docs being signed up.
Potential stock buy back by CELZ
Further spinoff or a buy out separating the Caverstem and Amniostem technologies.
etc., etc.,
The future is bright. We need to have patience. I wish I had the ability to buy more. But, my 7.6m and my wife’s 2.5m are locked GTC at $2 max allowed by Fidelity. My worry is that the price will shoot past $2 and I will not be able stop the sale in time. We will see where we are in a year or 2.
So true. Not sure what #-% of people understand the ‘rules of bio-tech/PHARMA’ world. This takes TIME!. (The period after the exclamation was to say ‘period’)
Again, as a newbie to this world of otc+++, I can say that I was lucky to have found this company.
Those of us who have patience will be beautifully rewarded.
And a final thought/question for this post...... to the audience.....
“Have ever thought of what exactly you would do if your dreams came true?”
I have....... and I know I am close.
Long and Strong CELZ.
You r correct. From the previous set of discussions, Tim W. is holding app. 74MM shares. This discussion was about 2 months ago. These 74MM shares of/by Tim W., I believe, were included in the ‘Longs holding’ count of 200MM shares. So, I have been thinking that we, Long and Strongs, could possibly holding/lockingup a lot more than 200MM shares.
This leads me to believe that the MMs and flippers/swing-traders (some of whole masquerade as longs) have less to ‘play’ with...... and therefore, the MMs ‘shaking the tree’.
Of course, this is imho only.
U guys are funny!
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ps. Still got all, after I added last week, of 7.6Mm locked up. So, if the true longs are truly holding, I’d recommend, in a positive way, that we recalculate the 200M we longs are holding and have locked up. I suspect we have more real longs like out there, just quietly accumulating - as much as they can.
pps. My close ones also hold ‘a bunch’.
True long here! While I enjoy reading all (well, actually, only some) posts, holding super long - interested in really seeing the Q’s in Feb 2019 ( for 2018 performance and Q4). till then, kick back and watch the drama.
Long and Strong with CELZ!
Thank you other longs for your DD.
Somebody, or group, keeps dumping. I keep slapping the ask.
My iHub looks a lot cleaner after 'ignoring' some of the posters.
Just FYI
I am with all of you Longs as well, with all my shares.
Additionally, I read the announcement from GE as that we may have another potential buyer/suitor for our product - it is that simple. GE is downsizing/letting go of all other aspects/divisions of their company except Healthcare - where I believe, we LLBO/Cyrcadia, fit in nicely. For a company the size of GE Healthcare, the best way to show growth is through acquisitions and/or partnerships. Additionally, we have Board member(s) who are ex GE, but working for IFlyTech = competition (?). So, IMHO, while some are 'Doom and Gloom' - this is great news for LLBO/Cyrcadia.
LLBO - Long and Strong.
"The Healthcare division, which made products in areas such as medical imaging and cell therapy, had sales of about $19 billion in 2017 and about 54,000 employees worldwide. GE said it would announce the "structure, sequence and timing" of the health care spinoff in the future but said it would be complete within 12 to 18 months. "
Got all on the ask - 0.035’s and 0.036’s
I got the last of 0.036's and 0,0365's - both orders were filled under ASK price - 0.0355 and 0.0357 respectively?
Long and Strong - CELZ
I fully agree, especially on the second point. There is a chance, a small chance, that the pps could drop after a R/S. Leaving the share structure as is is the best option for now. Not worth taking the risk at this point. We have time - till dec. we will get news regarding FDA (hopefully) by Dec., which will move the pps value up and increasing NVCN’s negotiating power.
That said, I thing the pps has been maintaining for a little while - some, or a couple of, things are in the works. Just hold.
Interestingly, I worked know of a few companies acquired by BSX. They always (in the instances that I know of) waited for FDA approval before pulling the trigger. And BSX WAS ALWAYS FAIR. The value of the company, and therefore the value of pps, is not only based on the size of the Market, but also (or additionally) NOT allowing your competitor from getting into that specific market with that specific technology.
So, I have been quiet, but Long on NVCN.
Go NVCN!
Thanks Arnie. I just didn’t want to set/have false expectations. Q3/Q4 is any time before and upto end of December and September was very specific. I hope they launch in September and make a huge announcement.
LLBO - Long and Strong
I read that the product launch would be in Q3/Q4 this year. Was there another article that I missed that said product launch in Sept.?
Long and Strong - LLBO
Beautiful quote! Love it! Thanks.
Holding COHO quietly. Patiently waiting for it to come out of its cocoon and fly.
Go COHO!
Agree 100%. CELZ are following a methodical and logical process that will lead to greatness in time. We need to applaud and allow them to stay focused to achieve their plans. We need to be patient and we, true longs, will make tons of $’s. Let’s not worry about or listen to the nay-sayers. If they are really smart, they would be loading up too.
CELZ - Long and Strong.
I see a couple of 911 trades. Does that mean news is coming?
Agreed! Great things are in the near future for LLBO. Thanks
Fidelity is showing ‘0’ volume. Is LLBO trading?
Long with LLBO.
This is a clear signal that CELZ has cash coming in and that they do not need to use equity/shares to secure such financing. This is a significant signal, IMO. That said, now that the company is looking to use it's future potential to secure funding, what will it do to increase the value of the pps/company to gain/maintain the favorable status/financing moving forward?
Though I don't post much, all my 6.5MM shares locked up at $2. Going long with CELZ. Thanks to all the longs (you know who you are) and your DD.
I heard the same on public radio, NPR. Extremely promising. Wish I had more cash to support ask slapping
Holding long and Locked up.
I agree with you. I think there is a good PR coming our way. This could be related to FDA and buy out. In that order. There is a small chance that a R/S May be a pre-requisite for a buy out, but that would be towards December.
Any way, buy and hold. We will be good with this stock.
Sounds like this target is before R/S. Any thoughts?