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I'll bet your daughter started out swiping up the hair in the salon? LOL
Crow, unfortunately it was too late of a notice for me to attend, but I will catch one in the future.
I don't think I'll announce it on the boards though, wouldn't want to upset Moonie again if I don't make it! LOL
Amazing how K-Mart cancelled there shares during reorganization leaving thousands of retired investors holding the bag, then only a few years later, had the resources to buy Sears- an American institution.
Hey Kidinsight/onetheedge do you remember this statement talking about ASD technology:
"IMHO, based on the reading and DD I have done with some of these companies you have talked about, I cannot help but wonder why any company would choose the VIS/IR spectrum. It sounds to me, the IR has got some unsolved problems that could adversely affect measurements."
They must have solved those background radiation problems you spoke of since CDEX is now licensing the technology from ASD.
Wouldn't you agree Dr. AOM?
Remember the chicken-on-a-string land mine detector? LOL
"Don't start getting into the Dirac equation or anything complicated with them."
Actually I was going to discuss Planck Space and it's significance to the development of quatum computes, in particular, q-bits.
"...the fact that they are even able to hook up a COTS fluorimeter and calibrate it is about what we should expect from them at best."
But they put it in a nice looking box.
"CDEX is a technology development company that develops and
innovatively applies photoelectric technology to the development of life safety and public safety products for the healthcare, homeland security, and brand protection markets."
Hmmm.... I always thought that CDEX's technology platform was based on fluorescence? At least that's what it says in CDEX's patent applications.
The photoelectric effect is the emission of electrons from matter upon the absorption of electromagnetic radiation, such as ultraviolet radiation or x-rays.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect
or..
The photoelectric effect refers to the emission, or ejection, of electrons from the surface of, generally, a metal in response to incident light.
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae24.cfm?CFID=10356994&CFTOKEN=63022511
Fluorescence is a luminescence that is mostly found as an optical phenomenon in cold bodies, in which the molecular absorption of a photon triggers the emission of another photon with a longer wavelength.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
Oh well an electron or a photon, who cares, I guess "photoelectric" sells better than "flouresence".
There's some very advanced mathematics that shows how an electron can be transform into it's photon equivalent. It's called a Moonie Transformation.
Recently it's found important practical use in investment analysis.
Only five trades all day? Where are all the investors? How about all the Baxa employees? What about all the hospitals and all the people exposed to the revolutionary "photo electric" technology, why aren't people investing at these bargain prices?
Sumtingwong here!!
Hello ICCDP, a man of few words and one liners. How did you get permanently banned from RB? Was it a sham like with the others?
Well heck Crow, I just read Paige's post to you and I didn't know they're playing in Pomona, that's in my territory!
Oh... and if I may make one small suggestion?
This line has a certain ring to it that kinda bothers me:
"The Clydesdales, featuring AN ASTOUNDING Female Vocalist/song writer, and a very good guitar picker"
It sorta reminds me of that line, "9 beautiful women and one ugly chick". A little editing might prove worthwhile.
AND GIVE THE DRUMMER SOME!!!
Damn t-shirt won't be whole hog without the drummers signature!
RA, what are you trying to imply? We can read between the lines, we know an innuendo when we read one.
That question is defamatory and libeous!
LMAO!!!
I see that Xeno and Crow have done an excellent job of addressing Paige's concerns. I hope Paige has gained a little insight into how a penny stock company requires stock promoters to help control their product and make the insiders happy.
"he is the absolute personification of the description of spamming on the IHUB rules list."
Gee, is that why when you scroll down his posts all the links have the color change denoting that you've cliked on them before? LOL
"Well, we know he got shares as a "plaintiff"."
Bingo, but RA's question to Capnmike may have been directed more towards whether he was compensated for promoting CDEX on investment message boards.
I can't remember and since the post was deleted we'll never know.
I know that he claimed Loch Harris gave him a plaque of some sort with a quarter mounted on it. I beleive he said it was for his efforts in supplying land mine information to Poteet and Blair during the Loch days when they were developing the ELF.
A quarter ain't much but it's compensation! LOL
I think it was a special quarter, It had been bombarded with x-rays from the first bench-top ELF prototype.
XRF spectrometers use silver and copper for spectral calibration, I knows, ayes gots me one and have three standards for spectral calibration, one pure silver, one pure copper and one a Ag/Cu alloy.
LOL!!
Rottenapple,
"Diddy...did you notice that my question about whether or not capnmike received any compensation from LOCH or CDEX was deleted, as was your answer?!!
I wonder what the reason was? Knowing who and why someone is being compensated by a company is definitely on topic. And it certainly is a determining factor as to how much credibility you give a poster who is profiting while the company seems to be having some financial problems.
An explaination for the deletion is in order. Do you agree?"
Yep, but don't count on it! It's not like Viking65 has been doing a stellar job of objectivity!
Besides, you don't want to start whining and complaining like posters have done in the past.
Ain't worth it.
I'll make it a point to see the Clydesdales my next trip to Vegas. Looks like great talent!
Nice job Crow.
Deleted Duplicate post.
Here is what Sgt. Garcia said:
Because the meth gun's technology has never been used at crime scenes before, it will have to face court challenges to its admissibility, said Tucson Police Sgt. Mark Garcia, who works in the department's narcotics unit. Like the radar gun, the meth gun will probably have to go through lengthy use in the field.
"Something like that will have to go through all the legal hurdles of acceptance," Garcia said.
The chemical field tests used by police have been ruled admissible in court, he said.
The product does interest him though, he said.
"It could be very helpful in meth cleanup," Garcia said.
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/138816.php
It does interest him though?! What does that mean? LOL
It seems like he's dismissing it for anything other than "meth clean-up" with that comment.
Makes me wonder if it's going to be another "counterfeit drugs morphs to liquids only" fiasco.
Yep, at least a lone cop with a dog has back up.
Crow, I take it you read Pookie's link on the TCL board?
It was very interesting that the poster cited a DA's point of view. That supports exactly what Sgt. Garcia said in one of the CDEX PR's, "...like the radar gun, the meth gun will have to hurdle a lot of legal obstacles before it would be widely used in law enforcement" (paraphrased).
Here's the post from Pookie's link: (Thanks Pookster)
"(problem number one) he was skeptical. I asked, assuming the technology actually did exist, if they could use it. He explained in some detail that virtually every police agency could and would use it if it really worked. He agreed do check it out and also inquire with the Districts Attorneys office.
About a week later he called and explained that his department researched the zNose and everyone agreed they, and probably every other police department, could use it. He explained many vehicle searches are not done because it is just too dangerous for individual offices to search vehicles while the occupants stand behind them as well as the fact that they frequently lack probable cause. He said the zNose would eliminate that problem as well as others.
He then explained why he, as well as most police departments, would likely not buy one at this time. The DA explained it may or may not be possible to get a conviction, which after all is the objective. The DA said the courts could rule that since the zNose took a sample (air) from the vehicle without probable cause it may be an illegal search. On the other hand, the courts could say the zNose provided the probable cause for a further search. Until that and other questions are resolved in the courts most police agencies would not allocate that sort of expenditure. In addition, he explained most police departments are extremely conservative with the equipment and technology the purchase. They typically select only thoroughly tested, proven technologies. They rarely, if ever, act as proving grounds for new side arms, tasers, protective gear, etc. no matter how promising the technology would seem. However, he did say his agency would be open to a no cost trial and that the DA agreed to consider prosecuting a case where the zNose triggered the search. That is where ESNR comes in. They are going to have to work hard to penetrate this market. They will have to create the awareness and be involved in lengthy field trials and training, possibly at no cost to the customer. If successful, they will further have to find a way to brand the products use with law enforcement and effectively communicate the brand and results nationally.
I am not sure the ESNR marketing organization is up to the task at this time. However, I am convinced there is an enormous market potential here. For instance, assume my brother is incorrect in his professional opinion that almost every police department could use a zNose. Maybe it is actually just one in one hundred. You do the math."
In the case of the MSHP, they are funded to conduct tests which I'm sure is part of their willingness to field test the meth gun.
It will be a very limited test, meth only we've been told, so there is less chance for error IMO. That's why IMO, it should continue to be called the meth gun and NOT the IDD (illicit Drug Detector) until it has been successfully tested for the advertised illicit drugs and explosives other than meth.
We've all had our fill of the many CDEX "concept products" in the past.
Some of the above issues is also why I don't expect any significant sales of the meth gun until late 2007 or 2008.
Paige, I don't think you understood me correctly. My point was that the patent excerpt that you posted seemed like a generic description for almost any type of spectrometer.
I don't know what "wowed" you, so I asked you why you found it so interesting.
"I thought you posted once that you found it almost impossible that our gun could detect that strongly being that small .. Am I wrong?"
I'm not sure what you mean by "detect that strongly". What I do remmeber commenting on was the size of the sensor window on the gun. The smaller the diameter of the sensor window, the smaller the "photon gathering ability" of the sensor. Generally speaking, small is fine for Valimed where there is an extremely close, bulk target, but for the meth gun, much of the performance will be dictated by how well it can detect trace at a large stand-off distance or footprint.
Sensitivity, stand-off/footprint and shoot speed are important parameters which will determine the useful of the gun.
Review CDEX's patent and look at what the f-number must be for the XRF device to have a corresdpondingly large stand-off distance (< f/2).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number
http://tangentsoft.net/fcalc/help/FNumber.htm
http://www.charfac.umn.edu/glossary/f.html
http://www.mellesgriot.com/products/machinevision/lef_3.htm
Probably for the same reason he took the IPIX job.
And why did MP and Boyz approved him for the position at CDEX?
Probably because they saw what a fine job he did for management and insiders at IPIX.
Mission accomplished.
One thing I agree with Closer about- "Watch the volume" and try to get a little piece of the action if the MM's will oblige you.
And watch RA, if he dumps before others, he's going to blow the bottom out of the PPS! LOL
Paige, so why is it that you find that so interesting? Pretty common lingo to me.
It looks like upandin0 is now saying what some of us have been saying all along. MP saved Boone and Baker's rear ends.
The Boyz hired him for the job and what a fine job he did for them!
It started by tbeezer testing the waters to see if shareholders would buy the story- "we got the tech, but the Boyz are going to go BK and shut the company down", Ontheedge starting the hostile takeover movement and capnmike lining up the troops against those bad, bad Boyz with his "open letter" series.
The whole time our savior MP was waiting on the sidelines like an angel as the insiders rallied the troops to support honest MP to save the company.
LOL!!! Gotta love it!
Paige,
In a nutshell:
1. Re XRF: The x-ray energies CDEX uses to detect and discriminate explosives does not have the penetrating power for the application you are suggesting, not anywhere near the penetrating power of x-ray imaging equipment used at airports.
2. Re UVF: It doesn't work well enough for airport screening applications because it does not have the throughput speed required. I believe that is why the Army/Navy took a look-see, then dismissed the technology.
It didn't have the shoot speed/scan footprint required to be practical. Believe me, if it did it would be in airports by now.
So what is CDEX doing, finding niche markets where those limitations are not application critical. For example, Valimed need not worry about performing at large stand-off distances (it operates under an inch), it does not require a large scan footprint (less than a square centimeter- the new cuvette even smaller), it does not have to be sensitive enough to detect trace quantities (bulk detection only) and it does not need to worry about hostile environments (all signals are shielded in an optically pristine box).
Standard commercial fluorimeter performance IMO.
How about the meth gun? I believe it will be much of the same. Very short stand-off distance and with a small footprint... etc., etc.
We'll soon see if CDEX decides to be "more transparent" than they were with Valimed when it comes to disclosing performance specs.
My forecast, expect several prototypes before any production- late 2007- early 2008.
Rand Report- Innovative Mine Detection Systems:
Scroll to pages 15-26 for Explosive Vapor Detection Techniques.
http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1608/MR1608.ch2.pdf
High C, so how many shares have I sold?
OK Crow, if you buy a share, then I'll buy a share. No sense resisting Capnmike's talented salesmanship any longer.
Let's be loyal Longs and hold, hold, hold.
On second thought, maybe we should buy three shares each, that way we'll have a lower breakeven than RA! LOL
There is also a simple pen which tests very accurately for meth, I don't know what the sensitivity level is, but they have a website.
Damn good questions Xeno!! I doubt we'll ever get direct answers.
I've often wondered how effective the meth gun is going to be detecting trace residue on different surfaces. Detection is not under the same conditions as the Laboratory bench-top Valimed unit.
It will not work quantitatively with any reasonable accuracy or precison IMO.
The DOJ report states the stand-off at under an inch, although that PR picture of WP pointing the gun (in the dark) was more like six inches.
"I'm still waiting for all those landmines to be cleared..."
I guess that's not happening in the near future since our CDEX stock promoter is no longer spamming news about children being killed and maimed from landmines.
That's old hat, the meth crisis is the hot topic today.
Mothers Against Methamphetamine (MAMA):
"Meth Test Kits. We now have the test kits in stock and will be providing them to resource officers in Walton County (who lost their funds for free tests) as well as to anyone who requests it - free of charge"
http://jcwebs.com/Default.aspx?alias=jcwebs.com/mama-loganville
I have a call in to confirm the type of kit they're using.
Then we'll really know.
Yes, that's what "a kit" usually refers to, a "test kit". The meth gun is a "device" or "instrument".
10K does seem a little pricey for a kit though.
"There is a portable detection kit"
A kit and not a gun? I wonder what's in the kit?
Xeno,
Do you really think Griffin would attempt such a move? I guess I'm a little more trustworthy. At least am leaning toward giving Griffin the benefit of the doubt for now, something I wouldn't have given MP and the rest of the old Loch Harris crew in a million years.
I do see why you might consider the possibility, MP is gone and it's no longer his watch. None of the Boyz would get caught with the reins in their hands. The Loch Harris crew is too smart for that. CDEX is now set up with a brand new front end crew completely disjoint from the Boyz. Even WP is only a consultant.
LOL! Huh? Is that the tactics that you're resorting to in order to get reader's attention.
I see you realize your stock promotional game as been played out.
d4diddy finds this very pleasing.
Thanks Scared. eom
I stand corrected Viking, 60 days instead of 45 for a 10K?
I remain very impressed with the capabilities of this product from a vertically integrated company that is ISO9001 approved with over 40 patents. Not a one horse show.
Loch/CDEx shareholders should be watching this company carefully. The only way I can imagine the meth gun even coming close to competing with the FirstDefender is if it can perform trace detection very rapidly, from a significant stand-off distance (large footprint) and do it reliably without errors.
If the meth gun can do that, it will have a possible niche in the market, but still won't come close to the capabilities and market potential of the FirstDefender IMO.
FirstDefender can detect and identify over 2500 chemicals and also identify over 1 million different mixtures of those chemicals using some interesting probability analysis software.
Impressive as evident from the numerous awards.
Ahura FirstDefender Handheld Chemical ID System Honored with R&D 100 Award
Wilmington, MA—October 13, 2006—Ahura Corporation today announced that the FirstDefender™ handheld chemical identification system has been recognized with a 2006 R&D 100 Award. Sponsored by R&D Magazine, the R&D 100 Awards honor to the 100 most technologically significant products of the year. After extensive review by an independent panel of judges, winners were selected based on their importance, uniqueness, usefulness and significance.
Innovation is key to Ahura’s approach to product development. By understanding customers’ needs and the fundamentals of physics and chemistry, breakthrough products like FirstDefender can be quickly developed and launched into Ahura’s ISO 9001 manufacturing process. Ahura has filed more than 40 patent applications.
FirstDefender is a rugged, waterproof handheld instrument for the identification of unknown liquids, solids and mixtures. It is an optical system based on Raman spectroscopy, a proven technique for reliable, lab-based chemical identification. Using expertise in ultra-compact optics and miniaturization, Ahura has successfully optimized high-resolution Raman spectroscopy for use in the field.
This instrument is used by military and civilian first responders around the globe for accurate and instant identification of potentially dangerous substances, such as chemical weapons, explosives, toxic industrial materials, hazardous waste and narcotics. Customers have quickly adopted this technology due to its ease of use and the significant impact it has on reducing threats to public safety. FirstDefender customers include the Federal Bureau of Investigations, U.S. Army, U.S. Customs and Immigration, Fire Department of New York, City of Seattle Fire Department, Washington D.C. Fire Department, New Jersey State Police and more than 150 other agencies in the United States.
“The development of FirstDefender was a true team effort and we’re proud to be recognized with this award,” said Dr. Daryoosh Vakhshoori, founder and president of Ahura Corporation. “By incorporating cutting edge thinking in spectroscopy and chemometrics, we were able to solve an unmet need in a revolutionary way. Most importantly, we’ve developed a product that is having a tremendous positive impact on how first responders work every day.”
FirstDefender has been honored with other prestigious awards for its design, portability, functionality and innovation, including the Industrial Design Society of America Award for Excellence in Industrial Design and the Frost & Sullivan 2006 Chemical Detection Industry Innovation & Advancement of the Year.
The 2006 R&D 100 Awards winners will be honored at the annual black tie awards banquet on Thursday, October 19, 2006, at the Grand Ballroom on Chicago’s Navy Pier.
About Ahura Corporation
Ahura Corporation develops rugged, ultra-compact, field-enabled optical systems for the detection, identification and authentication of unknown and suspect substances. Customers include the homeland security, life sciences, industrial and medical markets. Manufactured in the USA in an ISO 9001 certified operation, Ahura’s products offer superior performance at competitive prices. Ahura has been recognized with a number of awards from organizations such as Red Herring, Frost & Sullivan and IDSA. More information at www.ahuracorp.com.
For editorial inquiries, please contact:
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http://www.ahuracorp.com/press/pr_20061013.html